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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25208&Reply=25208><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Need another radiator ID</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blk428cj, <i>06/26/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have another one to ID. numbers on the side are DOZE-G1<br><br>what application is this one for?<br>Thanks Stuart </blockquote> Need another radiator ID -- blk428cj, 06/26/2005
I have another one to ID. numbers on the side are DOZE-G1

what application is this one for?
Thanks Stuart
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25210&Reply=25208><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>70 429 Tornio</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>raycfe, <i>06/26/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Serv number D0OZ 8005 E<br>70 tornio/fairlane 429CJ/extrra coolor a/c<br>429SCJ w/TE stand cool<br>429CJ w/tow stand cool<br>Core 26 wide, 17 7/8 high, 2 1/4 thick<br>Hope this helps </blockquote> 70 429 Tornio -- raycfe, 06/26/2005
Serv number D0OZ 8005 E
70 tornio/fairlane 429CJ/extrra coolor a/c
429SCJ w/TE stand cool
429CJ w/tow stand cool
Core 26 wide, 17 7/8 high, 2 1/4 thick
Hope this helps
 RE: 70 429 Tornio -- scf100, 06/26/2005
thanks.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25207&Reply=25207><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>gear drive</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Doug, <i>06/26/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>What do you guy's think about using a "cheater" gear drive on a 428 ? </blockquote> gear drive -- Doug, 06/26/2005
What do you guy's think about using a "cheater" gear drive on a 428 ?
 RE: gear drive -- giacamo, 06/26/2005
i,d spend my money on somthing else. thear good but not realy neaded on a fe.....
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25197&Reply=25197><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>What are signs of distributor going bad?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Steve M, <i>06/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Is it possible for a distributor to be bad sometimes? I am having intermittent problems with my car and the only thing I havent checked is my distributor. It is the original distributor and I converted it to pertronix thinking it would help, but it's not. The car backfires through the exhaust when I let off of the gas. It does it with full exhaust and with open headers. Sometimes it will backfire through the carb or stumble when I nail it from a light. From a roll it is fine 99% of the time. It is a 390 with new edelbrock 600 cfm carb and performer manifold with headers and pertronix pointless ignition with accel coil. Everything else is stock. The plugs are new, the wires and cap are new also. The timing is at 6 BTDC and I even tried 10 degrees.  Any suggestions are welcome...Thanks.  </blockquote> What are signs of distributor going bad? -- Steve M, 06/24/2005
Is it possible for a distributor to be bad sometimes? I am having intermittent problems with my car and the only thing I havent checked is my distributor. It is the original distributor and I converted it to pertronix thinking it would help, but it's not. The car backfires through the exhaust when I let off of the gas. It does it with full exhaust and with open headers. Sometimes it will backfire through the carb or stumble when I nail it from a light. From a roll it is fine 99% of the time. It is a 390 with new edelbrock 600 cfm carb and performer manifold with headers and pertronix pointless ignition with accel coil. Everything else is stock. The plugs are new, the wires and cap are new also. The timing is at 6 BTDC and I even tried 10 degrees. Any suggestions are welcome...Thanks.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25199&Reply=25197><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Sounds like a vacuum leak.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Royce P, <i>06/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Did you test fit the intake with no end cork gaskets to make sure the head / block / intake manifold relationship is good? What kind of gaskets did you use?<br><br>Royce </blockquote> Sounds like a vacuum leak. -- Royce P, 06/24/2005
Did you test fit the intake with no end cork gaskets to make sure the head / block / intake manifold relationship is good? What kind of gaskets did you use?

Royce
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25201&Reply=25197><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>methinks we've covered this before....</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>John, <i>06/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>With your set-up, a lot of fuel still gets pumped through the engine when you let off the gas.  The unburnt gas ignites in the exhaust causing the "backfire" (a true "backfire" comes out the carb,,,,,much worse.....LOL).  A strong ignition system is required to fire the fuel in the chamber during this deceleration.  A pertonix unit fixed my problem like this.  In your case, it amy be the ignition timing is off as you've changed everyting else.  Perhaps the distributor centrifigal advance is sticking.  The only major difference that probably exists between your engine and mine is that I don't use a vacumn advance.  Maybe that is contributing to the trouble.  Maybe you can find another type of distributor to try before plunking down a lot of $ for a big buck unit. </blockquote> methinks we've covered this before.... -- John, 06/24/2005
With your set-up, a lot of fuel still gets pumped through the engine when you let off the gas. The unburnt gas ignites in the exhaust causing the "backfire" (a true "backfire" comes out the carb,,,,,much worse.....LOL). A strong ignition system is required to fire the fuel in the chamber during this deceleration. A pertonix unit fixed my problem like this. In your case, it amy be the ignition timing is off as you've changed everyting else. Perhaps the distributor centrifigal advance is sticking. The only major difference that probably exists between your engine and mine is that I don't use a vacumn advance. Maybe that is contributing to the trouble. Maybe you can find another type of distributor to try before plunking down a lot of $ for a big buck unit.
 RE: methinks we've covered this before.... -- Steve M, 06/25/2005
I remember about the unburnt gas in the exhaust post, but since this went through the carb this time I thought it might ring a bell with somebody or change the diagnosis since I am farting out of both ends..LOL
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25202&Reply=25197><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>The intake gaskets are felpro</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Steve M, <i>06/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>The intake gaskets are felpro. We put the manifold on last year and it worked good. Do you think that the fel pro gaskets mess up after a while? We did put the intake on first to make sure everything fit nice and it seemed ok.  </blockquote> The intake gaskets are felpro -- Steve M, 06/24/2005
The intake gaskets are felpro. We put the manifold on last year and it worked good. Do you think that the fel pro gaskets mess up after a while? We did put the intake on first to make sure everything fit nice and it seemed ok.
 RE: The intake gaskets are felpro -- giacamo, 06/25/2005
never had a felpro gasket give out?not to say it canhapen.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25194&Reply=25194><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>1960 timing cover</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Walker, <i>06/23/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Did the 1960 timing cover look like the 59 version, or the 61 version?<br><br>What am I looking for as a correct appearing 1960 front cover?<br><br>Thank you. </blockquote> 1960 timing cover -- Walker, 06/23/2005
Did the 1960 timing cover look like the 59 version, or the 61 version?

What am I looking for as a correct appearing 1960 front cover?

Thank you.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25195&Reply=25194><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>A good place to ask</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>raycfe, <i>06/23/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182">http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182</a><br>good people </blockquote> A good place to ask -- raycfe, 06/23/2005
http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182
good people
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25200&Reply=25194><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>'58-'60</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>06/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>use the funky-looking steel cover.<br><br>You might want to verify this with the network folks too. </blockquote> '58-'60 -- Barry B, 06/24/2005
use the funky-looking steel cover.

You might want to verify this with the network folks too.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25204&Reply=25194><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Re: '58-'60</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>06/25/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>There were actually two timing cover styles used in 1960.  Both were steel/tin.  One was the standard cover for the 352-2V and the 4V engine.  It has a "degreed" timing pointer.  The other timing cover was unique to the 360 horse HP352.  It looks externally like the '58 332/352 cover.  The timing pointer/indicator is designed to clear the larger HP harmonic balancer. It's not degreed.   <br><br>What I've found to be different between the '60 HP cover and the '58 covers is internal where the thrust button rides.  The '58 cover will not work with your '60 cam without some modification to the early cover.<br><br>I've not torn down a '59 332/352, yet.  You never know.  But what I don't know is what style of camshaft thrust button was used in '59.  The two '58 engines I've been inside of have a smaller thrust button than the '60-'62 engines.  <br><br>So....a '59 cover might work.   But to be sure, I'd look for a '60 "funky-looking" steel cover.  <br><br>From '61 on the aluminum timing cover was used. </blockquote> Re: '58-'60 -- McQ, 06/25/2005
There were actually two timing cover styles used in 1960. Both were steel/tin. One was the standard cover for the 352-2V and the 4V engine. It has a "degreed" timing pointer. The other timing cover was unique to the 360 horse HP352. It looks externally like the '58 332/352 cover. The timing pointer/indicator is designed to clear the larger HP harmonic balancer. It's not degreed.

What I've found to be different between the '60 HP cover and the '58 covers is internal where the thrust button rides. The '58 cover will not work with your '60 cam without some modification to the early cover.

I've not torn down a '59 332/352, yet. You never know. But what I don't know is what style of camshaft thrust button was used in '59. The two '58 engines I've been inside of have a smaller thrust button than the '60-'62 engines.

So....a '59 cover might work. But to be sure, I'd look for a '60 "funky-looking" steel cover.

From '61 on the aluminum timing cover was used.
 it's never easy is it? -- Walker, 06/25/2005
I've got a 59 cover and I've got a 61 cover. I guess I'll make the "funky" 59 cover work.

Thank you.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25191&Reply=25191><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>200 mph speedometer</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike d, <i>06/23/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>i have a friend who has a 69 gt 390 with a 200 mph speedometer has any one seen one like this in a mustang before. </blockquote> 200 mph speedometer -- mike d, 06/23/2005
i have a friend who has a 69 gt 390 with a 200 mph speedometer has any one seen one like this in a mustang before.
 Actually, it reads to 200kph - that's kilometers, not miles. See related... -- Mr F, 06/23/2005
http://www.jcoconsulting.com/ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=15953&Reply=15934
 RE: 200 mph speedometer -- Roy Richards, 07/22/2005
> i have a friend who has a 69 gt 390 with a 200 mph speedometer has any
> one seen one like this in a mustang before.

I have one in my 70 mustang coupe which is a replica of a TA car. I had it converted over to MPH. You can see some pics and info on car here: http://www.geocities.com/lightningroy
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25185&Reply=25185><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>$$ for a 427</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Walt, <i>06/21/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a 427 I am going to sell and I would like to know the going rate.  It is very clean- no rust - has been sitting on an engine stand in my garage since 1985 with all machined surfaces in pristine shape.  I purchased it after it was boiled, the cranck balanced and punched 60 over (I currently measure 4.28), put it on the stand and havn't touched it since.  It came with 60 over TRW pistons and rods.<br><br>Crank - C4AE.B<br>Block - C3AE - 3B22:3 - 6015AB - HP55 - DIFF<br><br>Any input would be greatly appreciated. </blockquote> $$ for a 427 -- Walt, 06/21/2005
I have a 427 I am going to sell and I would like to know the going rate. It is very clean- no rust - has been sitting on an engine stand in my garage since 1985 with all machined surfaces in pristine shape. I purchased it after it was boiled, the cranck balanced and punched 60 over (I currently measure 4.28), put it on the stand and havn't touched it since. It came with 60 over TRW pistons and rods.

Crank - C4AE.B
Block - C3AE - 3B22:3 - 6015AB - HP55 - DIFF

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25186&Reply=25185><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: $$ for a 427</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>06/21/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>does the crank have the oil grouve cut in it ? is the crank cut undersize? the only thing 60 over bore on a early 427 will hurt you some on the price.i,v sean 60 over 427,s run just fine but most want more beaf to work with if thear going to lay down the big bucks...... </blockquote> RE: $$ for a 427 -- giacamo, 06/21/2005
does the crank have the oil grouve cut in it ? is the crank cut undersize? the only thing 60 over bore on a early 427 will hurt you some on the price.i,v sean 60 over 427,s run just fine but most want more beaf to work with if thear going to lay down the big bucks......
 RE: $$ for a 427 -- Walt, 06/21/2005
I believe it does have the oil groove cut in it but I will check tomorrow. I anticipated sleeving the motor and putting it in a Cobra kit car. I purchased this motor so long ago I don't recall the details.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25182&Reply=25182><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>391 ?361</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>f700, <i>06/19/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>hi guys from australia just got a fe  motor out of a old truck  can you guy,s help with numbers <br> crank= C6TE6303 ,  D I THINK  HARD TO TELL <br> RODS= C6AE-C<br> PISTON= C7TE 611OC S  H3<br> TOP PISTON= CAM-Z15   <br>  </blockquote> 391 ?361 -- f700, 06/19/2005
hi guys from australia just got a fe motor out of a old truck can you guy,s help with numbers
crank= C6TE6303 , D I THINK HARD TO TELL
RODS= C6AE-C
PISTON= C7TE 611OC S H3
TOP PISTON= CAM-Z15
 Re: 391 ?361 -- giacamo, 06/19/2005
check the stroke of the crank on some v blocks 3.79 is the 391, and 3.50 is the 361,330, the 359 361 389 391 truck moters are 4.05 bore and the 330 is 3.875 bore the c6ae-c rods wear used in the 330 359 361 391 moters. do a littel measureing it.s the only safe way to tell....
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25178&Reply=25178><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>pertronix and the starter relay</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>craig R, <i>06/19/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Is the Starter relay I termonal always hot in both the start and run position? I ran a bypass to the coil from the I terminal and nopw all is well. Wondering if I need a second 12V source from the back of the ignition switch also?<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Craig </blockquote> pertronix and the starter relay -- craig R, 06/19/2005
Is the Starter relay I termonal always hot in both the start and run position? I ran a bypass to the coil from the I terminal and nopw all is well. Wondering if I need a second 12V source from the back of the ignition switch also?

Thanks

Craig
 Yes and no -- raycfe, 06/19/2005
With the orginal wiring it is 12volts when starting::: in the run postion it has coil voltage because it will back feed to the I terminal wire. If you take the wire off you will find the "I" terminal is dead when key is in the run, only the wire is live(because it is connected to the coil). If you bypass the resistor wire and feed the coil 12volts the "I" wire will be 12volts also if the orginal wiring is in tack and connected.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25180&Reply=25178><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: pertronix and the starter relay</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>raycfe, <i>06/19/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>If you look at the 3 wire connector that goes to the oil, temp, and coil on the engine from the factory, You should see that the firewall side has two wires going into one. The "I" term and the resistor wire are sistered together at that point to feed the coil. </blockquote> RE: pertronix and the starter relay -- raycfe, 06/19/2005
If you look at the 3 wire connector that goes to the oil, temp, and coil on the engine from the factory, You should see that the firewall side has two wires going into one. The "I" term and the resistor wire are sistered together at that point to feed the coil.
 RE: pertronix and the starter relay -- craig R, 06/20/2005
Thanks Ray. I'll splice them together manana so that the coil gets 2 feeds, one in crank mode and the other in run mode. Either way, it should get the full 12 volts that the pertronix coils wants.

Thank you again.

Craig

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25176&Reply=25176><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>fe engine i. d.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>72puma, <i>06/19/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>im new to ford engines and suppose to have a 390 in my 69 torino gt. the numbers 9020 appear by the oil filter and c8me-a on the right side of the block. any help appreciated thanks </blockquote> fe engine i. d. -- 72puma, 06/19/2005
im new to ford engines and suppose to have a 390 in my 69 torino gt. the numbers 9020 appear by the oil filter and c8me-a on the right side of the block. any help appreciated thanks
 C8me-a -- raycfe, 06/19/2005
Is a casting number used for 390 and others. The first thing to do is measure the stroke,(thru a spark plug hole) Use a stiff wire, chopstick, whatever and mark it at the lowest point of the piston and again at the highest point. 3.5" = 352 crank, 3.75" =390 crank, and 4.0" = 428 crank.
 Shifter bracket wanted -- FRANK, 06/19/2005

the bracket that bolts to the block to suport the colum shifter for a 390 // 67 fairlane
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