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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25059&Reply=25059><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>rear main seal</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Neil Grose, <i>06/06/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Somebody walk me through replacing a rear main seal with the engine in.  I plagued with real main oil leak in my 67 Shelby GT 500 428 PI.  Thanks so much </blockquote> rear main seal -- Neil Grose, 06/06/2005
Somebody walk me through replacing a rear main seal with the engine in. I plagued with real main oil leak in my 67 Shelby GT 500 428 PI. Thanks so much
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25061&Reply=25059><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: rear main seal</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Armond, <i>06/06/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hi Neal!  Armond D'Agostini here!   You need to talk to Greg Scott at Dougs Auto in Orem!  He is the Best! </blockquote> RE: rear main seal -- Armond, 06/06/2005
Hi Neal! Armond D'Agostini here! You need to talk to Greg Scott at Dougs Auto in Orem! He is the Best!
 RE: rear main seal -- Neil Grose, 06/06/2005
Armond, we have tried to e-mail you back and we are getting a bad address. E-mail back at pittypat@aol.com. You know me I have the 67 GT 500 Shelby. We have met several times at car shows and we post this on e-mail and it is responded by someone we know. Thanks for you information

Neil
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25120&Reply=25059><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: rear main seal</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>06/11/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>neil check out my posts i have one on how i change seals </blockquote> RE: rear main seal -- giacamo, 06/11/2005
neil check out my posts i have one on how i change seals
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=27654&Reply=25059><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: rear main seal</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Brock Hattox, <i>06/13/2006</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a 1966 Mustang with a 289 V8, automatic transmission.   The rear main seal is dripping oil slowly.   Do you know if this rear main seal is a one or two part seal?   How long would you let it go before replacing?<br>Thanks,<br>Brock </blockquote> RE: rear main seal -- Brock Hattox, 06/13/2006
I have a 1966 Mustang with a 289 V8, automatic transmission. The rear main seal is dripping oil slowly. Do you know if this rear main seal is a one or two part seal? How long would you let it go before replacing?
Thanks,
Brock
 RE: rear main seal -- giacamo, 06/13/2006
it,s a 2 pice seal. depends on how bad it,s leaking.thay never seam to heal them selves...............
 none -- walt, 05/31/2005
memorial day has come and gone,lets not forget our fallen troopsi regret to say that i didn't visit the black granite wall in dc,i have a couple few friends on it,but that was my war many years ago,just say a good word for our troops in iraq/afganistan,home safe ,soon
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25041&Reply=25041><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>decoding</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>ke, <i>05/29/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>hi guys<br>i am trying too heelp a friend too<br>decode an engine on block<br>C8MV-A      (2) </blockquote> decoding -- ke, 05/29/2005
hi guys
i am trying too heelp a friend too
decode an engine on block
C8MV-A (2)
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25049&Reply=25041><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Sorry, but that # has to be wrong. Check it, again. [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>05/31/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> Sorry, but that # has to be wrong. Check it, again. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/31/2005
n/m
 RE: Sorry, but that # has to be wrong. Check it, again. [n/m] -- ke, 06/02/2005
YES iam sorry i have checkt it my self now
it is C8ME-A and some other number under oil filter 6j27 and a number 2 stampt over oil filter i hope you can help me now,
and can you tell me where too find data on that engine hp,torque
regard kenneth
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25053&Reply=25041><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>The 6J27 is . . .</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Orin, <i>06/02/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote> . . .  the casting date of the block.  The date is 1966 (6) September (J), 27the day (27), September 27, 1966.<br>  The C8ME-A is the engineering number used to ID the application.  In this case it would  translate to 1968 (C8) , Mercury (M), Engine (E).  I don't know what type of block that would be.  Try to measure the bore and post that number for addtional help from the gurus here.<br>  But you still have to figure out how a 1968 engine ended up with at 1966 casting date . . . which would be a nice trick if you can pull it off.  :-)<br>  I suspect one of the 6s or 8s is being mis-read.  Scrub it with some carb cleaner and take another look.<br> <br> </blockquote> The 6J27 is . . . -- Orin, 06/02/2005
. . . the casting date of the block. The date is 1966 (6) September (J), 27the day (27), September 27, 1966.
The C8ME-A is the engineering number used to ID the application. In this case it would translate to 1968 (C8) , Mercury (M), Engine (E). I don't know what type of block that would be. Try to measure the bore and post that number for addtional help from the gurus here.
But you still have to figure out how a 1968 engine ended up with at 1966 casting date . . . which would be a nice trick if you can pull it off. :-)
I suspect one of the 6s or 8s is being mis-read. Scrub it with some carb cleaner and take another look.

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25054&Reply=25041><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: The 6J27 is . . .</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>ke, <i>06/02/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>sorry again it has too be 8j27, it has been said too be an 390 engine 2p carb can you tell me some data on that engine<br> </blockquote> RE: The 6J27 is . . . -- ke, 06/02/2005
sorry again it has too be 8j27, it has been said too be an 390 engine 2p carb can you tell me some data on that engine
 Use Google with the . . . -- Orin, 06/02/2005
. . . keyword of 390 cid engine -- I got back 24,500 responses.
 RE: The 6J27 is . . . -- McQ, 06/05/2005
It sound like you've got a 390-2V that was originally installed in a 1969 FoMoCo vehicle. It was cast on 9/27/68. It was a lower compression engine, 9.5:1, that ran fine on regular leaded gas. They weren't "Mileage Makers" but just good solid torquey mills. I think the 2V 390 was rated at 265 horsepower.

Like all 390's it offers tremendous power potential.

Just bookmark this site. Check in on a regular basis and you'll acquire a lot of ideas on how to build that 390.

Here's a simple plan:

Edelbrock heads & RPM intake, flat top 4V pistons, cam shaft with something in the neighborhood of 220 @ .050, intake and exhaust, 600 CFM carb., MSD or Pertronix distributor/ignition system, headers.

I must say, this simple but not inexpensive. But building a small block chevy isn't cheap anymore either.

Have it professinally built by a competent, reputable, recommended shop and there you go! Install it in your favorite Ford/Merc and you'll have a lot of fun.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25030&Reply=25030><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>1970 351 C ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Preheim, <i>05/28/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hi, I need an engine diagnosis. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a 70 351 Cleveland 2v. Here is what happend. I had just changed the oil pan, and gasket. I parked the car for a few days, and when I went out and started it I noticed it sounded bad like it was low on oil. I shut it off, poped the hood, checked the oil, and it wasn't even registering on the dipstick. I looked down, and there the oil was all over the ground. I jacked up the car, and found the culpret to be the drain plug. It was loose. real loose. I know I had that thing tight when I replaced the pan. Don't know what happend. Almost seemed to me that it was vandalism. At any rate then I took the truck to town bought new oil. Filled it up, It turns out it was 4 qts low. then I started it up. It was still kinda loud, but got better. I drove it a little bit, and it seemed like it was almost back to normal. Took it home shut it off. Next day started it up, and noticed the oil pressure gauge was on the L it wasn't really making much noise but I did notice bearly a little tick in the engine. Passenger side. When the car is cold I can hardly hear it. As the engine warms up the tick gets louder, and louder. When I'm driving the car the oil pressure gauge  acts normal. At idle it  stays on the L most of the time. What should I do? What can I do? What seems to be the most likely problem? As far as oil goes I allways use Castrol 10 30 in this engine.<br>Please let me know anything you can.<br>                                                  Thanks </blockquote> 1970 351 C ticking -- Preheim, 05/28/2005
Hi, I need an engine diagnosis. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a 70 351 Cleveland 2v. Here is what happend. I had just changed the oil pan, and gasket. I parked the car for a few days, and when I went out and started it I noticed it sounded bad like it was low on oil. I shut it off, poped the hood, checked the oil, and it wasn't even registering on the dipstick. I looked down, and there the oil was all over the ground. I jacked up the car, and found the culpret to be the drain plug. It was loose. real loose. I know I had that thing tight when I replaced the pan. Don't know what happend. Almost seemed to me that it was vandalism. At any rate then I took the truck to town bought new oil. Filled it up, It turns out it was 4 qts low. then I started it up. It was still kinda loud, but got better. I drove it a little bit, and it seemed like it was almost back to normal. Took it home shut it off. Next day started it up, and noticed the oil pressure gauge was on the L it wasn't really making much noise but I did notice bearly a little tick in the engine. Passenger side. When the car is cold I can hardly hear it. As the engine warms up the tick gets louder, and louder. When I'm driving the car the oil pressure gauge acts normal. At idle it stays on the L most of the time. What should I do? What can I do? What seems to be the most likely problem? As far as oil goes I allways use Castrol 10 30 in this engine.
Please let me know anything you can.
Thanks
 RE: 1970 351 C ticking -- Tom, 05/28/2005
I had this in my 73 it got low on oil once and the lifter became flat it still worked but made noise till i replaced the lifter maybe someone elese can help you out
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25036&Reply=25030><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: 1970 351 C ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>05/29/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>i,d try a heaver oil maybe strait 30 weigth? maybe your engin is old and runing it low on oil put it over the edge? </blockquote> RE: 1970 351 C ticking -- giacamo, 05/29/2005
i,d try a heaver oil maybe strait 30 weigth? maybe your engin is old and runing it low on oil put it over the edge?
 RE: 1970 351 C ticking -- harold la croix, 05/30/2005
i have same motor but only 3500 miles on it.
even my 97 f-150 171000 miles i use the same oil. but i add lucas oil to it .1 qt and the
rest in 10-30 try this good for the the entire
motor
 RE: 1970 351 C ticking -- walt, 05/31/2005
normaly the truck has a 6 or 7 quart pan,low oil pressure indicates mostly a bearing wear/failure,bad lifters,cam lobe wear hardley affect oil pressure,but i have run into a unique problem, with oils,i have had the base separate from the carrier,gooey jelly,and a light oil ,the oil separated,bearing failure in no time,this not only happened to my fairlane,but my work truck(460)and a few other trucks,i had enough sense to shut it down when i heard the lifters rattle,and was still full of oil,they pulled the pan,found the same thing,the other guys blew their engines,all of us were running oil from the same vendor at the timealso another thing,in the early 70'sford did not warranty the 351 c if you used quaker state oil,the parrafin base would plug the returns in the heads
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25028&Reply=25028><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>427 FE Air Condition pulleys?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Bill, <i>05/27/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>I am trying to locate pulleys and brackets to put an air condition compressor on a 427.  Does anyone have a suggested source for either the parts or pictures that show proper configuration for this setup?<br><br>Many Thanks for your responses! </blockquote> 427 FE Air Condition pulleys? -- Bill, 05/27/2005
I am trying to locate pulleys and brackets to put an air condition compressor on a 427. Does anyone have a suggested source for either the parts or pictures that show proper configuration for this setup?

Many Thanks for your responses!
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25029&Reply=25028><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>What year?.......n/m</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>05/28/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> What year?.......n/m -- Lou, 05/28/2005
n/m
 RE: What year?.......n/m -- Bill, 05/28/2005
427 motor is 66 vintage.
 If it's retrofit and you don't need factory... -- Gerry Proctor, 06/01/2005
Try here:
http://www.oldairproducts.com/shop/index.php?cPath=30000000_60000000&osCsid=b08ca78b4bbdd174659cab0c7af69606

Under the Ford brackets, you can get the entire aftermarket retrofit assembly. You can also get the adapter bracket alone under "brackets" that mounts a Sanden compressor in place of the York if you have some of the parts.

Just FYI, there were various configurations for factory FE A/C brackets. While most will work, there are year-to-year and model-to-model changes. Some use a tensioner and idler, some don't. Some use additional bracing, some don't. I only bring this up so that you know to get the whole shebang from one car, rather than bits and pieces. You'll of course need a crank pulley to drive the A/C so the more complete, the better.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25025&Reply=25025><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>rear seal</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>harold la croix, <i>05/26/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>i have a 70 mustang 351 c my rear seal is leaking.can the seal(it"s 2 pieace)be done by dropping the pan and changing with out pulling transmission and fly wheel.i know the rear cap must come off.can this be done and so please let me know.been having my car 20years and love it.need to fix asap so i can cruise.thanks harold e la croix<br> </blockquote> rear seal -- harold la croix, 05/26/2005
i have a 70 mustang 351 c my rear seal is leaking.can the seal(it"s 2 pieace)be done by dropping the pan and changing with out pulling transmission and fly wheel.i know the rear cap must come off.can this be done and so please let me know.been having my car 20years and love it.need to fix asap so i can cruise.thanks harold e la croix
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25037&Reply=25025><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: rear seal</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>05/29/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>rear seals can be a bitch how i replace them i use a soft brazing rod non coated and coax the uper half of the rear seal out with it. then i use carb cleaner to wash out the seal pocket.and oil up the new seal and slip it in, the new styal tipe not the rope tipe make shure to remove the pin on the lower half of the cap it will deform the new tipe of seal this sounds eazier than it is to do but it can be done.take your time some go eazy some go hard mostly hard......... </blockquote> RE: rear seal -- giacamo, 05/29/2005
rear seals can be a bitch how i replace them i use a soft brazing rod non coated and coax the uper half of the rear seal out with it. then i use carb cleaner to wash out the seal pocket.and oil up the new seal and slip it in, the new styal tipe not the rope tipe make shure to remove the pin on the lower half of the cap it will deform the new tipe of seal this sounds eazier than it is to do but it can be done.take your time some go eazy some go hard mostly hard.........
 RE: rear seal -- harold la croix, 05/30/2005
thanks. it's going to be a little work getting pan out. but i thought it could be done.
 none -- walt, 05/25/2005
thanks for the response's,but i have a bit of info,i had the inner race bearing race shatter on my f240 pickup(dana 60 410 posi )the rollers went thru my gear set and damaged the carrier,,lots of shiney metal.any how i searched for the carrier in many junk yards,found one in a mom and pop yard,just had to watch out for the rats for a buck and a half,they were in the process of crushing the whole yard,when the crane tore a box off a 73 f 150,lo and be hold there was a 9 inch "N" case 350 posi,anoter buck and a half later i had 2 rear ends
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25013&Reply=25013><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Help</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ace, <i>05/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>hey i was wondering if someone could explain to me the different parts of a 68 Ford Mustang GT 500 please. im lookin on all the websites but they got notin. thanx </blockquote> Help -- Ace, 05/24/2005
hey i was wondering if someone could explain to me the different parts of a 68 Ford Mustang GT 500 please. im lookin on all the websites but they got notin. thanx
 Shelby GT500 and GT500KR -- raycfe, 05/25/2005
Try seaching under Shelby not Mustang.
http://www.seriouswheels.com/1960-1969/1968-Shelby-GT500-KR.htm
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25010&Reply=25010><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>New Header gasket on 427</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike K, <i>05/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>The gaskets need to be replaced and I know I'm really in for it (427 in a 68 mustang).  I've looked in the posts for suggestions but was wondering if anyone had any tips?  Do I need to jack up the motor or even remove it to replace these things?  Thanks </blockquote> New Header gasket on 427 -- Mike K, 05/24/2005
The gaskets need to be replaced and I know I'm really in for it (427 in a 68 mustang). I've looked in the posts for suggestions but was wondering if anyone had any tips? Do I need to jack up the motor or even remove it to replace these things? Thanks
 RE: Tedious task at best. -- Gerry Proctor, 05/25/2005
Yes, you do need to jack up the engine since this is the only way to get access to some of the bolts at the spring towers. But that's the easy part since it just removing the bolt from the mount and jacking the engine up a few inches.

Of course, the hard part is getting to all the header bolts, particularly the bottom ones. You might (probably will) have to remove the starter.

I would say that this job doesn't require any particularly mechanical skill other than patience. Plan on the better part of the day to do this.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25004&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>MIKE, <i>05/24/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>I would like to have one of those 5 speed tko600 on my 1967 fastback s code, i did some calls to different companies and im berry confused cause they come up with different procedures and parts like they have never done this swap, and they claim that they are correct  i realy hate to buy one tranny pakage and be unable to install it cause they provide me the wrong parts. If some one out there have ever done this i would like to know how does it works ,,,,, thanks ! ! !.  </blockquote> From toploader to tko600 -- MIKE, 05/24/2005
I would like to have one of those 5 speed tko600 on my 1967 fastback s code, i did some calls to different companies and im berry confused cause they come up with different procedures and parts like they have never done this swap, and they claim that they are correct i realy hate to buy one tranny pakage and be unable to install it cause they provide me the wrong parts. If some one out there have ever done this i would like to know how does it works ,,,,, thanks ! ! !.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25044&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Chuck, <i>05/30/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Just finished tko 600 on 428 in a 67 mustang. Its a tight fit, my big paw doesn't fit between top trany and tunnel at all. <br>I had to cut some of the floor pan to fit as shifter spot fits just over to the right from original spot about 1.5" too far. I could take a pitcher of that for you. Cutting wasn't a big deal for me as car was drag raced for about 10 years and was already cut so tunnel repair was already in order. Use this input shaft to convert trany to work with toploader bell<br><a href="http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=TR0132+01">http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=TR0132+01</a><br><br>use this fluid<br><a href="http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=GM1234+01">http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=GM1234+01</a><br>you can save $1 qt at chevy dealership<br><br>use this cross member<br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4542337087&category=34208&sspagename=WD1V">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4542337087&category=34208&sspagename=WD1V</a><br><br>if you have headers you need to trim some with headers but driveline angle with this is perfect. If you have headers install w/o trany and you'll see trim required, takes longer to preinstall then to grind off difference. <br><br>You'll need a c6 31 spline input shaft to convert drive shaft, find a used one on ebay etc and don't pay more than $40 for it.<br><br>Also buy a good after market shifter, I cut my shifter handle and rewelded it on to place it further back for a better shifter location, but I'm 6'4" and my seat is slid back as far as possible. On my dads I plan to use a hurst pro comp. shifter lever and drill holes in it to better locate. <br>Also check out the links below for more info or email w/ specific questions. <br>Chuck<br><br><a href="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1966/5speed.html?200524">http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1966/5speed.html?200524</a><br><br><a href="http://www.intermeccanica.org/vehicles/italia/italialit/Tremec.htm">http://www.intermeccanica.org/vehicles/italia/italialit/Tremec.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/calculators.html">http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/calculators.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0404_gear/">http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0404_gear/</a><br><br>best shifter on the market and prices are right on<br><a href="http://ddperformance.com/FordGMShifters.htm">http://ddperformance.com/FordGMShifters.htm</a><br><br><br><br><br><br> </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- Chuck, 05/30/2005
Just finished tko 600 on 428 in a 67 mustang. Its a tight fit, my big paw doesn't fit between top trany and tunnel at all.
I had to cut some of the floor pan to fit as shifter spot fits just over to the right from original spot about 1.5" too far. I could take a pitcher of that for you. Cutting wasn't a big deal for me as car was drag raced for about 10 years and was already cut so tunnel repair was already in order. Use this input shaft to convert trany to work with toploader bell
http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=TR0132+01

use this fluid
http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=GM1234+01
you can save $1 qt at chevy dealership

use this cross member
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4542337087&category=34208&sspagename=WD1V

if you have headers you need to trim some with headers but driveline angle with this is perfect. If you have headers install w/o trany and you'll see trim required, takes longer to preinstall then to grind off difference.

You'll need a c6 31 spline input shaft to convert drive shaft, find a used one on ebay etc and don't pay more than $40 for it.

Also buy a good after market shifter, I cut my shifter handle and rewelded it on to place it further back for a better shifter location, but I'm 6'4" and my seat is slid back as far as possible. On my dads I plan to use a hurst pro comp. shifter lever and drill holes in it to better locate.
Also check out the links below for more info or email w/ specific questions.
Chuck

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/1966/5speed.html?200524

http://www.intermeccanica.org/vehicles/italia/italialit/Tremec.htm

http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/calculators.html

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0404_gear/

best shifter on the market and prices are right on
http://ddperformance.com/FordGMShifters.htm





Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25060&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>kirk, <i>06/06/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>What size is this replacement input? I have a drag car with a jerico and the 1 3/8 X 10 input shaft, and I'm itching to get a strong trans to drive it on the street. </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- kirk, 06/06/2005
What size is this replacement input? I have a drag car with a jerico and the 1 3/8 X 10 input shaft, and I'm itching to get a strong trans to drive it on the street.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25065&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Chuck, <i>06/07/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>It is the same as a small input 1 1/16" 10 spline input toploader. It will work on any fe or small block for sure.<br>      It would be nice if some one would make a big spline input replacement, but then again its been my expierience that if you play hard enough to brake a small input shaft you're going to brake something any how.<br>Chuck </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- Chuck, 06/07/2005
It is the same as a small input 1 1/16" 10 spline input toploader. It will work on any fe or small block for sure.
It would be nice if some one would make a big spline input replacement, but then again its been my expierience that if you play hard enough to brake a small input shaft you're going to brake something any how.
Chuck
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25067&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>walt, <i>06/07/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>yes in my old street racing days,it was tuff to twist the inputs,but i did a many few,also the out put shafts,realy bad news when you broke the output inside the drive shaft yoke,and caused it to expand in the tail housing,need a torch to cut the yoke,drive the broken piece out,some times called for a new tail housing bushing,some of my small block friends had thier trannies modified to wide ratio,big/out,and a fellow in detroit made up 10 1/2 disc's for the 1 3/8  10  spline to fit the small block,this was grafting parts between the  diff transmissions </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- walt, 06/07/2005
yes in my old street racing days,it was tuff to twist the inputs,but i did a many few,also the out put shafts,realy bad news when you broke the output inside the drive shaft yoke,and caused it to expand in the tail housing,need a torch to cut the yoke,drive the broken piece out,some times called for a new tail housing bushing,some of my small block friends had thier trannies modified to wide ratio,big/out,and a fellow in detroit made up 10 1/2 disc's for the 1 3/8 10 spline to fit the small block,this was grafting parts between the diff transmissions
 RE: From toploader to tko600 -- walt, 06/07/2005
ps the big input was cut off the close ratio big block,and welded to the wide ratio,4th gear(input gear) by liberty gear or doug nash at the time,and supplied the proper pilot bearing
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25050&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>MIKE, <i>05/31/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Thanks for the input chuck!<br>on the links you send me the input shaft is just what i need, the guys who i getting the tko try to sell me one input shaft with 26 spline and my input shaft is 10 spline my clutch disc diameter is 11. 5 and the one they sell is 11. Inches 26 spline so i dont like the idea of installing smaller clutch disc. Is a big deal to replace the input shaft? like instaling the shims and remove the bearing raise, does the input shaft kit comes with instructions?. <br>  the link for the tranny mount is also perfect cause the mount look off set and is just what my car need. <br>  on the drive shaft since the tko and the toploader have the same length all i have to do is replace the sleep joke to 32 spline. <br> i realy like to look some of the pics on that floor pan surgery cause im sure i have to do the same thing. <br> if i replace the input shaft i dont have to replace the  clutch trowout bearing? <br>.  </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- MIKE, 05/31/2005
Thanks for the input chuck!
on the links you send me the input shaft is just what i need, the guys who i getting the tko try to sell me one input shaft with 26 spline and my input shaft is 10 spline my clutch disc diameter is 11. 5 and the one they sell is 11. Inches 26 spline so i dont like the idea of installing smaller clutch disc. Is a big deal to replace the input shaft? like instaling the shims and remove the bearing raise, does the input shaft kit comes with instructions?.
the link for the tranny mount is also perfect cause the mount look off set and is just what my car need.
on the drive shaft since the tko and the toploader have the same length all i have to do is replace the sleep joke to 32 spline.
i realy like to look some of the pics on that floor pan surgery cause im sure i have to do the same thing.
if i replace the input shaft i dont have to replace the clutch trowout bearing?
.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25076&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>MIKE, <i>06/07/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>I JUST GOT MY TRANSMISSION MOUNT BRACKET AND THE INPUT SHAFT FOR THE TKO600 I THINK THE INPUT SHAFT DIAMETER IS SMALLER THAN THE ONE MY TOPLOADER HAVE, ALSO  2 WEEKS A GO I DROP MY TOPLOADER JUST TO HAVE SOME DIMENSIONS  ACCORDING TO THOSE  DIMENSIONS THIS INPUT SHAFT WONT FIT BUT, I WILL DROP THE TRANNY AGAIN TO MATCH THE INPUT SHAFT WITH THE CLUTCH DISC AND THE PILOT BUSHING ALSO I CALL MUSTANGS UNLIMITED CAUSE I GOT THE INPUT SHAFT FROM THEM  AND I THINK THIS INPUT SHAFT IS WRONGLY ADVERTISED IN THEIR WEB SITE, CAUSE WHEN I EXPLAIN TO THE GUY I SAW 2 DIFFERENT CLUTCH ALIGNMENT TOOLS FOR 10 SPLINE INPUT SHAFTS ON EARLY MUSTANGS (2 DIFFERENT DIAMETERS) HOW CAM YOU ADVERTISE THAT THIS INPUT SHAFT IS FOR TK0s TRANNYS AND WILL FIT 10 SPLINE CLUTCHES REGARDLESS THE ENGINE SIZE, THEN THE GUY STUMBLE ,,,, TO BE HONEST GUYS IF THIS INPUT SHAFT DOES NOT FIT ON MY TRANNY SWAP I GOT NOWHERE TO RUN!  I WILL BE REALLY UP SET CAUSE ITS BEN SEVERAL MONTHS TRYING TO GET  A TKO600 ON MY CAR AND ALL THE PLACES I CALL THEY JUST WANT TO SELL THE TRANNY  AND THE KIT TO DO THE SWAP WITHOUT CONFIDENCE OR SAYING THEY ALL READY DID THIS ON THE SAME VEHICLE CAUSE WHEN I ASK THEM THAT THEY ALSO STUMBLE AND SAY THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT. <br>THIS WILL  BE REALLY FRUSTRATING CAUSE I LIKE THE TOP LOADER BUT IS REALLY RIDICULES BEN DRIVING THIS PONY AT 70MPH AND THE RPMs RIDICULES HIGH! !   THIS IS TURNING INTO A NIGHTMARE HAVING THE MONEY TO BUY THE STAFF BUT BEEN UNABLE TO GET IT RIGHT! </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- MIKE, 06/07/2005
I JUST GOT MY TRANSMISSION MOUNT BRACKET AND THE INPUT SHAFT FOR THE TKO600 I THINK THE INPUT SHAFT DIAMETER IS SMALLER THAN THE ONE MY TOPLOADER HAVE, ALSO 2 WEEKS A GO I DROP MY TOPLOADER JUST TO HAVE SOME DIMENSIONS ACCORDING TO THOSE DIMENSIONS THIS INPUT SHAFT WONT FIT BUT, I WILL DROP THE TRANNY AGAIN TO MATCH THE INPUT SHAFT WITH THE CLUTCH DISC AND THE PILOT BUSHING ALSO I CALL MUSTANGS UNLIMITED CAUSE I GOT THE INPUT SHAFT FROM THEM AND I THINK THIS INPUT SHAFT IS WRONGLY ADVERTISED IN THEIR WEB SITE, CAUSE WHEN I EXPLAIN TO THE GUY I SAW 2 DIFFERENT CLUTCH ALIGNMENT TOOLS FOR 10 SPLINE INPUT SHAFTS ON EARLY MUSTANGS (2 DIFFERENT DIAMETERS) HOW CAM YOU ADVERTISE THAT THIS INPUT SHAFT IS FOR TK0s TRANNYS AND WILL FIT 10 SPLINE CLUTCHES REGARDLESS THE ENGINE SIZE, THEN THE GUY STUMBLE ,,,, TO BE HONEST GUYS IF THIS INPUT SHAFT DOES NOT FIT ON MY TRANNY SWAP I GOT NOWHERE TO RUN! I WILL BE REALLY UP SET CAUSE ITS BEN SEVERAL MONTHS TRYING TO GET A TKO600 ON MY CAR AND ALL THE PLACES I CALL THEY JUST WANT TO SELL THE TRANNY AND THE KIT TO DO THE SWAP WITHOUT CONFIDENCE OR SAYING THEY ALL READY DID THIS ON THE SAME VEHICLE CAUSE WHEN I ASK THEM THAT THEY ALSO STUMBLE AND SAY THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT.
THIS WILL BE REALLY FRUSTRATING CAUSE I LIKE THE TOP LOADER BUT IS REALLY RIDICULES BEN DRIVING THIS PONY AT 70MPH AND THE RPMs RIDICULES HIGH! ! THIS IS TURNING INTO A NIGHTMARE HAVING THE MONEY TO BUY THE STAFF BUT BEEN UNABLE TO GET IT RIGHT!
 RE: From toploader to tko600 -- walt, 06/08/2005
question? do you have the long or diafram type clucth?there are 2 dif fly wheels now avaiable for the diff clucthes,also a fine spline or the 10 spline coarse,you will probaly have to relay that info to get the right stuff
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25079&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>walt, <i>06/08/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote> i forgot to ask what size input was in the tranny you pulled? </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- walt, 06/08/2005
i forgot to ask what size input was in the tranny you pulled?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25080&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>MIKE, <i>06/08/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>My flywheel is 11. 5"  all i know is my pilot bushing is. 631"  my clutch disc is 11. 5"  on the input shaft kit the one i just got today were the trowout bearing slice  the  diameter is  1 3/8  so i dont know if this kit wil match my clutch and pilot, tomorrow i will check this at the shop with my micrometer.  </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- MIKE, 06/08/2005
My flywheel is 11. 5" all i know is my pilot bushing is. 631" my clutch disc is 11. 5" on the input shaft kit the one i just got today were the trowout bearing slice the diameter is 1 3/8 so i dont know if this kit wil match my clutch and pilot, tomorrow i will check this at the shop with my micrometer.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25081&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>MIKE, <i>06/08/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Also my clutch pressure plate is the type using 3 fingers only </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- MIKE, 06/08/2005
Also my clutch pressure plate is the type using 3 fingers only
 RE: From toploader to tko600 -- walt, 06/08/2005
it's the long type,you might have to find an 11 1/2 small input clucth disc,i think some one still makes them,or have the fly wheel redrilled for the 11 in clutch,or change the wheel,also you will need the smaller throw out bearingthere is a top loader tranny site in this forum some where that might have the part that you need
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25188&Reply=25004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: From toploader to tko600</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Chuck, <i>06/22/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Sorry, missed the new posts. Use all the parts for a 390 in relation to clutch pieces, Hays and several others make both 11" and 11.5". I used a Hays flywheel and all recommended clutch parts from them. I wish now I had gone a litle lighter on the clutch disc. I got an upgraded disc because I was worried the 428 would eat up there stock 11" clutch disc. The one I got is a little too grippy on the street and likes to chatter.<br>Chauck </blockquote> RE: From toploader to tko600 -- Chuck, 06/22/2005
Sorry, missed the new posts. Use all the parts for a 390 in relation to clutch pieces, Hays and several others make both 11" and 11.5". I used a Hays flywheel and all recommended clutch parts from them. I wish now I had gone a litle lighter on the clutch disc. I got an upgraded disc because I was worried the 428 would eat up there stock 11" clutch disc. The one I got is a little too grippy on the street and likes to chatter.
Chauck
 RE: From toploader to tko600 -- MIKE, 06/23/2005
The inputshaft from mustangs unlimited [10 spline] look perfect for my needs but i didn't work on my tko, the gear is different, i did install it and when i turn the input by hand it feel wrong so i remove it and closely compare with the tko input and the inner gear have different diameter so i return it and i will try one of those spacer plates using the original long input from the tko the only problem is my clutch disc cause my car uses 11. 5" disc and 11. 5" clutch plate, today i just got one clutch disc from the local parts supplier 26 spline 11' the application is from 1971 camaro with 400cid i will try this disc but still i will like to have 11. 5" -26 spline cause i can't use the 10 spline input, some of the 67 fords use 11" discs but the 67 390 gt uses 11. 5" i will try hays and ask if the have one for me , using the spacer plate i may have to get another drive shaft.
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