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 | Oil Drainback Mods -- John, 04/17/2001
Has anybody ever done any work to FE heads to improve oil flow in the area of the drainback holes where the headbolt partially blocks it off? |
|  | RE: Oil Drainback Mods -- kevin, 04/18/2001
It is something most ignore, but I chose to grind away and taper the opening, epoxy in a screen and magnets for insurance. Ive seen some turn the headbolt diameter down at the bottom portion, but I never did. I ground the opening out where it meets the block though. Had no problems. The ultimate way is to block off return holes altogether and drill holes in ends and tap for return line fittings for lines to pan. Its a pain to route around headers, steering, linkage for clutch, but works great and keeps the oil from getting aeriated as bad. Good luck |
|  | RE: Oil Drainback Mods -- BOB HOPKINS, 04/18/2001
When I do the heads I use a die grinder to remove sharp edge and retaper the corner of head and smoothand polish casting at bottom of head. I think thi onconjunction with restricting oil flow to rockers there should not be a excess of oil in valve cover MY $0.02 |
|  | RE: Oil Drainback Mods -- John, 04/18/2001
Thanks Guys...am having a lot of trouble with this. Also I wasn't using the return Drip Trays. Wouldn't fit with the FPP stands...will try to modify for next time. |
| |  | RE: Oil Drainback Mods -- BOB HOPKINS, 04/19/2001
Yes I modified the drip trays to fit with aFFP'S stands too I likethe idea of some oil to be diverted down the vally |
|  | I did mine -- KarlJay, 04/19/2001
I use a Dremel to do both the area around the bolt and around the entrance to the hole. It doesn't take long and I see it as cheap insurance. |
 | 390 rebuild -- Mike, 04/17/2001
I think i know what i would like to do ..but wondering what all is envolved....Haven't started my '66 fairlane GT yet this year but....The engine is date coded Jan. 29th 1969...Has c8AE-H heads..428cj intake and exhaust manifolds...I'm think'in about trying to find at least the "right" heads for it....C~~R something?....question is by changing the heads ..what else would i have to change?...or do i have to wait and see what else is inside the thing 1st?.(probably)....Thanks.... |
 | Edelbrock Al Heads and Intake -- david kiser, 04/17/2001
I'm close to assembling my 428. I've purchased Edel. 6006 heads, Edel. Head bolts and an Edel. RPM intake, but they haven't come yet. This is my first experience with Al. heads and have a few questions. Do I stick with the factory Torque recommendations for head bolts and rocker stand bolts? Are Fel Pro gaskets (standard type) OK for heads and intake? Do I need shorter than stock Bolts for the rocker stands, I've heard that these heads are not tapped as deep. Do I need to run some stop-leak in the coolant due to porosity of the Aluminum? Do I use the stock baffles? Are the oil passages restricted as Made by Edelbrock, or will I need to put in a restrictor (.100" ?). I know some of these questions will be obvious when I get the parts, but I'm just gathering info. now. Any other info. or input is greatly appreciated. |
|  | RE: Edelbrock Al Heads and Intake -- ANDY, 04/17/2001
As you said these questions will be answered when you get the goods as they come with an info sheet with recomended gaskets and bolt torques. From memory I think you do have to cut down the long bolt for the shaft stands. Some simple mods and the standard drip tray fits fine (I think there are at least two styles of drip tray, one fits easier than the other). I put a bottle of Moroso ceramic block liner (cant remember what its really called) in just to try and keep the coolant off the aluminium, 3 years later no worries. Personally I dont like restricting the rockers to much and run the passages unrestricted as they are smaller than the original ones. I also run restrictors next to the rockers (in the form of close tolerance washers) to control oil bleed off out the side of the rockers after the oil has done its job. I wasnt overly impressed with valve job (valve stem heights all over the place) but installed them anyway as impatience (and my wallet) got the better of me. Good Luck. Have Fun. |
 | ford drag team of the 1960's -- mikeb, 04/17/2001
How successful were the torino half of the ford drag team? Everyone kknows about the CJ Mustangs, but nothing is ever written about the torino half. any info appreciated. HAPPY 37TH B'day to the MUSTANG! |
|  | RE: ford drag team of the 1960's -- Travis Miller, 04/17/2001
I am not sure which ones were on the Ford Drag Team, but in 1969 there were 5 drivers in 428CJ Torinos who set a total of 9 NHRA national records. They were Donnie Brewer, Roger Castor, Bill Ireland, Randy Payne, and Ed Terry. |
| |  | RE: ford drag team of the 1960's -- mikeb, 04/17/2001
Thanks for the info, that is the most I have heard on the torino's record. Would you happen to know what class the torino's were in and what kind of et's they had? thanks again |
|  | RE: Wasn't their a Woods on the west coast also. -- RC Moser, 04/18/2001
I remember the name Woods and somebody else, it might of been Terry, but I can't remember. I think he had a two car team Mus and tor. I think around 68. |
| |  | RE:Ed Terry -- Mike McQuesten, 04/18/2001
This isn't much help but I do remember Ed Terry being sponsored by Hayward Ford, Fremont CA. In '68 he campaigned a '68 1/2 CJ Mustang. Which as I've referenced before he would slip in a 427 Tunnel Port for match racing. BTW, not that it really matters a whole lot, but in '69 most of the "Torinos" being campaigned were FAIRLANES!. I know I'm being too picky here but it's just a little thing because I was one who hated to see the Fairlane marque slip away. All '69 Cobras were Fairlanes. The GT package was a Torino. Also, it's nice to see Bill Ireland's name mentioned. He was a hero to us Northwest Ford nuts back in the sixties. A friend of mine in Yakima, WA is currently restoring Bill's '61 Starliner Hi-Po, 401 horse. |
| |  | RE: Wasn't their a Woods on the west coast also. -- Paul H., 04/18/2001
I used to drag race in Oroville, Ca and there was always a guy in a 68 Torino named Dick Wood from Fremont racing there and at the time I was told that he used to race for Ford. I had the pleasure of actually beating him one time in a bracket race in my 66 428CJ powered stang. Paul |
| | | ![Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6006&Reply=5976><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <b>RE: Wasn't their a Woods on the west coast also.</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>RJP, <i>04/19/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Dick Woods of Hayward,Ca. and Ed Terry of Hayward also. Terry ran a few cars for Hayward Ford of Hayward Ca. not Fremont. They ran at Fremont Drag Strip among others but are best known for their dealership assocation. Anyone remember the cars that were run out of Broadway Ford and Klieman-Cole Ford of Oakland, Ca? Cecile Yother? Quarterhorse Mustang[s]? Misc. Fairlanes [390-427s] Falcons ect....? </blockquote>](/WebResource.axd?d=5j1V7IJBhc-qdmzmrXlobq0gFNxbOjgd7TeV-LysSEekJ7Gmtc2x9RMYHtS9EW5yU7wHEIWgz1wWu2IMG322RtthXdkInI49gjJzA4laYxsFhGCZI8wW_xoN6HxVXe4-0&t=637814653746327080) | RE: Wasn't their a Woods on the west coast also. -- RJP, 04/19/2001
Dick Woods of Hayward,Ca. and Ed Terry of Hayward also. Terry ran a few cars for Hayward Ford of Hayward Ca. not Fremont. They ran at Fremont Drag Strip among others but are best known for their dealership assocation. Anyone remember the cars that were run out of Broadway Ford and Klieman-Cole Ford of Oakland, Ca? Cecile Yother? Quarterhorse Mustang[s]? Misc. Fairlanes [390-427s] Falcons ect....? |
| | | |  | RE:Sorry about that.. -- Mike McQuesten, 04/19/2001
Oops, I was showing my hayseed Northwest ignorance there. I took a little trip to Cali in '68. Ostensibly to visit relatives in the bay area but what I really wanted was to see some California drag racing. I did get to go to Fremont strip and visit Hayward Ford. Even took the tour in Milpitas (San Jose) where they were building '68 Mustangs. I kept asking where are the Cobra Jets? The tour guide did take me on my own little side trip. Also remember a cool used car lot called Bill Parker's Four Speeds. Nothing on the lot unless it was a 4 speed. Couldn't believe my eyes but he had a '63 Galaxie Station Wagon 390 with what appeared to be a factory 4 speed with bench seat. |
| | | | |  | RE:Sad to say Fremont Drag Strip... -- RJP, 04/19/2001
Is no longer, closed down in 1989 with the intent of building a auto-mall. Its still there with weeds and piles of rock to prevent the locals from using it late at nite. The auto mall hasn't happened either. Rumors were floating around that the city fathers concidered it a blight on their yuppy community and wanted it removed and the tree huggers got involved too complained loudly about the air pollution. Strange, the high number of kids killed and injured in street racing accidents after the strip closed. And the air isn't any cleaner and the city fathers are now a bit more proud of their community 'cause they ran that nasty ol dragstrip outta town. The only ones to profit from all this is the hospitals and funeral homes. |
| | | | | |  | RE:Detroit Dragway gone to... -- Don V, 04/19/2001
to make way for the housing sprawl, I can remember hiding in the trunk of a 58 Dodge Coronet, choking on road entrance dust to save entrance fee, to see Bob Ford put it to Pete Seaton's Shaker. |
| | | | | |  | RE:Sad to say Fremont Drag Strip... -- HighSpeed, 04/20/2001
Yup, Fremont ....er....Baylands Raceway. Those were the days!
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|  | I sent Jerry Heasley an e-mail, asking him if he -- mike b, 04/22/2001
would do a story on the fairlane/torino half of the Ford Drag team. If anybody could do it, it would be Jerry. I have not even been able to find much of anything on the web either.
thanks for the responses y'all |
 | 428 SCJ value -- ToddStyles, 04/17/2001
I've got a disassembled SCJ shortblock. The block is an original bore block but will need a re-bore due to some surface rust. The crank is a 1UA and has a fresh 10/10 grind and is in excellent condition (also have the hatchet). I've got the Lemans rods and original SCJ pistons and the SCJ oil filter adapter with the oil cooler connections. Also have the exhaust manifolds. Any idea what it's worth? I need to sell it to finance my '65 project. Thanks, Todd. |
|  | RE: 428 SCJ value -- bryce, 04/18/2001
I would say $300 for the block since it needs machined,etc. 350 for crank, 50 for the hatchet, 300 for the rods, 200 for all the oil cooler connection parts, 400 for the manifolds. The pistons aren't really worth much in my opinion. These prices are taking into consideration that nothing is wrong with any of the parts. As a comparison I paid 375 for a std/std 1ub crank..that was perfect std. and 400 for a clean std bore block that was correct date code for my car. |
|  | RE: 428 SCJ value -- brian, 04/18/2001
Really it depends on how good of shape and clean the parts are. The prices posted above I would say are average to above average. I bought a complete longblock that had std. 428cj block, crank, rods, pistons, balancer, flywheel, heads, intake for 600. That is a real good price for all those parts though. A friend of mine just bought a 428scj longblock with p.i. intake, full rocker assembly it is totally complete, assembled, balanced and blueprinted for 1800. that included timing cover, and had all related scj parts such as flywheel and hachet. You may see some people asking higher prices..but usually it takes a lot longer to sell the parts...and you have to find the right buyer looking for that specific part. If it was me, I would probably ask around 1000-1200 for those parts. Hope that helps |
| |  | RE: 428 SCJ value -- ToddStyles, 04/19/2001
thanks for all the info. i've been offered $1500 for everything, so looks like a deal to me. thanks again, Todd. |
 | Headers -- Paul, 04/17/2001
Guys what would be a simple bolt on header for 65 Galaxie 500xl with a 352? |
|  | RE: FPA/Crites -- Mike McQuesten, 04/17/2001
Try Ford Power Applications. They have beautiful headers for your car. Also Charles Crites of Crites Reproductions makes headers for your '65. Both have websites. |
 | overheating 428 cj -- tony smith, 04/17/2001
i have a 69 torino cobra 428 cj i have done just about every thing i can to stop it from overheating.i have tried differant fans and thermostats also a four core radiator.i even tried some of the products thats suppose to let it run cooler what a waste that was.i had one of these cars new and it overheated. what if anything else can i do? is the cylinder walls to thin?I am just about ready to sell it you cant drive it and enjoy it. tony smith |
|  | RE: Hey, Tony needs some help guys... -- RC Moser, 04/18/2001
Tony, need to know alot more. like how much over bore, cam, timing, Where you have the vacuum advance hooked up at. How old the system is (since engine overhall, hoses, water pump , ect..). The more information then maybe the more responses. Hard to give advise with little to go on. When you say overheating do you mean puking water out on the ground or thumping should when you shut it off, hard to start when hot, or going by the gauge indication? |
|  | RE: overheating 428 cj -- Jim Raymond, 04/18/2001
Tony, Had a 390GT that over heated a lot until I put a recovery tank on the overflow. It had a 190 termostat, flex fan and the right fan shrod, drove to Bonneville and back with out a problem.
Jim |
|  | RE: overheating 428 cj -- KarlJay, 04/19/2001
A few things to consider: A high flow water pump, Edelbrock makes a nice one or get an impeller backing plate for the stock one (I think Jegs sells these). Some rebuilt water pumps use the cheap stamped steel impellers instead of the cast type, the cast type flow better. Get smaller water pump pully, the stock A/C pully is smaller on my 73 F250 than the non-A/C pully.
Bleed all the air from the system, if the rad is lower than the heads, get the add on fill tank that attaches to the intake. Run 25% antifreeze and 75% water. recheck the timming as it can have a big impact. The fan should be 1/3 the way into the shroud.
If that doesn't work, consider an alum rad from Griffin, not much more than a new one and they custom make them for your app. An engine oil cooler.
If it happens only during idle, Ford used a thermo switch for vac adv to dist on some to raise the idle when the temp went too high, but that only helps during idle.
I'm surprised to hear the additives didn't work, I've heard great things about Water Wetter and ProBlend's stuff, what products did you try? |
| |  | RE: overheating 428 cj -- tony smith, 04/19/2001
thanks alot karl the car has factory a/c the water flow is very good. I have checked the timing a number of times the fan shroud is ok. The car is stock the engine is very good condition. I have thought about an oil cooler it runs about 210/215 at 70 m/p/h i tried the water wetter product it didnt help at all so i didnt try anything else whats the use if one didnt help i dont think any of the others would.I Put a four core radiator in it i dont know if a alum. radiator would help. I am at my wits end with this car i also want to thank rc moser and jim raymond for your replys. thanks again tonysmith |
| | |  | RE: Here is what I have done -- Morgan, 04/19/2001
My 67 GT500 will get if I sit in traffic forany legthof time. So I proceeded to do a number of things that when combined made a big difference. 1. Finned Aluminum tranny pan 2. High Flow water Pump 3. 185 degree thermostat 4. Flushed the motor several times 5. Fan Shroud 6. Finned aluminum heat sink around oil filter 7. Electric fan in front of radiator (biggest difference) I use a independent switch to turn it on when I see the temp rise. Hope this helps you out |
 | More for Jeff... -- Stroker FE, 04/16/2001
Im typing this twice becuse they put my last input where you cant read it. Maybe I did something wrong here, I dont know, anyways you said you got a 3:50 gear? Go with a 4:11, this will drop your et big time. I'd say you will drop at least four tenths. And what is your stall speed? I got a 2700 stall converter in my C-6 in my Galaxie. Try that also. These changes will get you in the 12's and wont bankrupt you eather. What do ya think... |
 | More power for 390 - what's the next step? -- Jeff, 04/16/2001
Hi,
Hoping you guys can help. I have '68 GT390 Mustang. Runs 13.3 sec 1/4's @ 106mph on street tires. I've done all the usual mods, now want to take the next step to gain more power, not sure what that is. Car is 390 0.030 over, TRW pistons @ 10.5:1, 270H Comp Cam, Holley street dominator intake, 750 double pumper, hooker headers & flowmasters. C6 & 9" with 3.5:1 gears, stock dist & convertor. Money is an issue. How do I get into the 12's without spending a fortune? Thanks in advance. Jeff |
|  | Slicks. -- Dave Shoe, 04/16/2001
I suspect traction is somewhat of an issue right now. Do you have an Equa-Lock (early '68 posi), a Traction Loc (late '68 posi), or an open carrier rear? Traction Loc (Lok?- I always forget) will buy you a bit more bite over an Equa-Lock. Sticky tires will, too. Sticking the battery in the trunk would help a bit (beware of the gas tank location!).
A cheapo B&M shift kit will speed up shifting. The C6 is a comparatively fun tranny to work on, so this might be a worthwhile undertaking. Type F, type FA (new type F and type A spec), or racing fluid all work well because they don't have friction modifiers added.
Stock distributors are good, but I'd also look at ditching your points for a Pertronix conversion kit. You probably don't need much more energy than a stock coil and cap provides, but the solid spark of a solid state ignition sure makes an engine run smooth at high RPM. Having the distributor recurved by a pro is apparently a really good way to make power. I'm still learning about this, though. Your mph number suggests you've either got an electronic ignition or some really fresh points.
I assume you've got C7AE-A or C8AE-H heads. These do NOT port-match well to Hooker headers (have you had any header gasket leaks along the bottom edge?). You may want to look at obrounding the mounting holes in your header flanges upward about 5/16" in order to shift the headers down toward the asphalt, and right in-line with the exhaust ports on the head. Before you do this, you'll wanna mark the header tubes for clearance, so you know where to dimple them when you take the headers out. This should buy you some noticable horsepower.
Lastly, if you pull the heads, throat dress the bowls and drop some cheap CJ valves in there.
I'm not a drag racer - no tracks close by. This is just what I would look at next.
Shoe. |
| |  | RE: Slicks. -- Jeff, 04/16/2001
Thanks Shoe, I probably should have put more info in my post. I running a new LSD which works well, traction is abit of an issue, but not too bad. The C6 was mildly shift kitted when rebuilt 3 yrs ago. Ditched the points last month in favor of Pertronix - much smoother but didn't really effect ET or MPH on 1/4. Your right, the hookers didn't mate well with the heads. I actually had them fitted by a race mechanic & modified to line up better with the ports on the heads (we actually had to pull the engine out to do this properly!) All your suggestions are good ones, I've done nearly all of them & they all helped. Aside from a roller cam or nitrous, what else is there (stroking with 428 crank is also too expensive). Any other suggestions? Thanks again, Jeff |
| | |  | You must be a programmer by profession. -- Dave Shoe, 04/16/2001
Mixing the LSD and MSD acronyms got me thinking in binary again. It's been a while. Yup, running points with an MSD box allows them to last a long time. The Pertronix just buys you stability and reliability.
Learning about the other mods you've done put your performance numbers into perspective - you're little Ford is running about right for that set-up.
I might try swapping a nice PI intake onto that set-up, just to see if it has a positive or neutral effect. Both intakes are obviously good, one might offer a bit more of "what ya need" than the other, and I'm not sure which intake that would be.
Like you, I'm interested in hearing other performance suggestions, too.
Shoe. |
| | | |  | RE: You must be a programmer by profession. -- Stroker FE, 04/16/2001
You said your running 3:50 gears? Get a 4:11 man. Your et's will drop big time. I think you will drop at least four tenth's. Your highway crusing will suffer a little, and gas will get guzzled. But who cares about MPG when you got a muscle car right? Do you have a stall converter? What is it. I got a 2700 in my C-6 in my Galaxie. This will help also... |
|  | RE: Tire size? -- RC Moser, 04/17/2001
What size tires with the 3:50 gear? Tire height can help or hurt depending on the size. Could pop in the 12s with the right size tires and fudging with the air pressure. |
| |  | RE: Tire size? -- Jeff, 04/17/2001
I'm running 236/60 14s all round. I've utterly killed them now, so looking to upgrade to 15" x 8" on the rear to get abit more rubber on the road. Mind you, with the little 14" and the 3.5 diff, it's an absolute handful on the road - I like it! |
| | |  | RE: Tires are a pain in the # to get right? -- RC Moser, 04/18/2001
Jeff, Before you buy the tires, you need to figure out the tire height of you old ones. You need to know this cause it you get 15" tires the same size or larger they will be taller thus drecreasing you ratio (I think I got that right) which could hurt you ET. So, with that in mind I would stay with the same height tire Not rim size) or alittle bit shorter this will keep you close to the same gear to the payment There are alot of formulas on how to figure as I remember for every I" in height you loose .10 in gear ratio at the rear wheels (maybe some one else will correct that or have a better formula) Most who run 411's or 456's have 15" tires with a taller height , So the ratio at the rear wheel may be lower than what in the rearend. the best way is to jack the car up and mark the drive shaft at the rear end and mark the tire. Make a thin line so it will be actuate. Rotate the tire one revelation and count the drive shaft rotations. This gives you a true ratio to the payment. This is way too long, Sorry.. |
|  | RE: More power for 390 - what's the next step? -- BOB HOPKINS, 04/17/2001
I think we need more info give us 60' , and 1/8 mile times the mile per hour of 106 is much more horse power than youe 13.3 ET indicates.{ Guessing your car weight 3400 # 106 = 310HP 13.3 = 280HP} You need more gear and traction , and a looser converter will help if you git more traction. |
|  | RE: More power for 390 - what's the next step? -- Paul, 04/17/2001
How about a nitrous boost? It seems to me solid horsepower on the cheap can be gained by a nitrous shot of 100 to 250hp for probably $750 or less. |
|  | RE:Loose convertor/4.11s? -- Mike McQuesten, 04/17/2001
This is a great running street Mustang! Nice to see a mild cam and not some radical thing loping along. A lot of good suggestions. Just a couple of thoughts. The higher stall convertor? I've had two in street cars. If you don't drive on the street too often and racing at the strip is real important? The convertor will help along with slicks. But I don't like the loose convertors on the street. I've had a TCI Dominator I think is what it was called. It stalled at 2,800 with a 428 CJ. It was "doggy" from a light on the street. I also ran a B&M 3,000 stall w/351W/C-6 years ago and hated it on the street too. I really like the crisp feel of a stock stall convertor. I've also run 4.11s w/C6 and don't like that either. How about 3.89s/3.91s? Much easier to live with and easier on that strong 390. Maybe consider an oil cooler with these steeper cogs. My one suggestion..BF Goodrich Radial street slicks. Or M&H DOT approved street drag tires. I've run M & H G60 X 15 on 7" rims. They give nice bite off the line and you can drive to the strip and back with them. |
| |  | RE:Loose convertor/4.11s? -- Jeff, 04/17/2001
Hi Mike, Thanks for your advise. I agree with your comments on the convertor & 4.11's, that's why I haven't gone there yet, don't want it revving it's heart out for no particular reason. Most of driving is on street, & 4.11's would drive me nuts on HWY. Very interested in these tires. I'm running 235/60 on original 14" wheels. Have completely toasted them. Looking at going to 15" x 7" or there abouts on the rear, not familiar with the tires you recommended. Do you have any other info on them? Also have quandry over wheels, have original GT slotters, don't want to butcher them by widening, have to find some copies, but they'll need to match the front - don't want to buy 4 new wheels & quite like the look of chromed slotters.... |
| | |  | They make chrome slotted 15" wheels -- Walker, 04/17/2001
I believe they were originally optional on Mercury's; even if not, I've seen them new...surely enough demand for them.
I'd start with http://www.cobranda.com
I know I've seen them somewhere. |
| | |  | RE:Wheel Vintiques/JEG'S -- Mike McQuesten, 04/18/2001
The company that produces a variety of repro wheels is Wheel Vintiques, Freson, CA. Their latest catalog shows your '68 GT/Styled Wheel on page 5. A variety of sizes inluding the 15x7" you may want. As for the tires check with JEG'S Performance. They offer a full line including the M&H which I've run but they do take a tube which ain't cheap; they offer the BF Goodrich DRAG Radials which is what I want next time. I drove my '61 Starliner to the drags with the bias-ply M&H and with radials up front. I don't like that squirmy road feel. Mickey Thompson is now offering a DOT approved street drag tire that actually is a soft sidewall that wrinkles! All of these tires are dangerous in wet weather. So good luck dippin' into the 12's. Like Dave says, good drag tires should help a lot. I'd try them even before going to a lower gear. Those 3.50s are nice drivers. |
| | | |  | Please, dont get started on the -- Stroker FE, 04/21/2001
3:50 thing again. If you want a cruser like a Cadillac ya, the 3:50s are the best, but a muscle car, nhhh, 3:91, 4:11 gears with 28 inch tires is the best.. |
| | | | |  | RE: Please, dont get started on the -- Allen, 04/21/2001
He wants a good compromise between street and track. 3.50's,3.55's. and 3.71's are the good compromises.Espically the 3.55/3.50's. 3.91's , 4.11's and up are bad mothers on the track, but his car also sees the highway and these will kill his milege( which matters to him) and take miles of life off his engine/tranny. If he was runnin an overdrive tranny like and AOD or a T5 then he could get away with taller gears, but he's doin good staying away from them with a 3spd. We can all run any combo we want , this is America, but I think Jeffs on the right track with the 3.50/3.55's |
|  | RE: More power for 390 - what's the next step? -- Allen, 04/21/2001
Jeff, In that stock dist. are you still running points/condensor? If you are then swap in a Pertronix ignitor unit and one of their Flame Thrower coils. I did in my ' 65 Stang with a 289/C4 and my '69 F100 with a 360/C6. They both picked up some MPG's on the street and more power under my right foot. This is a great setup if you are looking for ease of instalation , performance, and a stock look. No external box's , alot of wires, or constant tuning. If you want to tune it between street and strip to get the most out of it (and if you are well versed in ignition tuning ) then tou may want an external box setup. I wanted easy instalation , great performance, and a stock look. And price. You can get the Pertronix under cap unit for as little as $59.95 and the coil for under $25. Those external box units go from $150 to $400 for the whole setup (box, coil, wiring harness). Oh Yeah........ think about some sticker tires. Cooper Cobras are pretty soft composite in the right size. Look around and see if some places on the web have the specs on the softness and "grip" of the tires. Ive heard those BFG street slicks are good at the track and , not suprisingly, have a very low tread life on the street. Maybe you could run good street tires on the street and have a pair of the Hi-Po slicks for the track? Just my 2 cents..............well it looks more like a Buck 10 dont it? |
|  | RE: More power for 390 - what's the next step? -- Al, 04/21/2001
3.73 rear end cogs ,a 500 - 800 RPM over stock converter and 15-16in street slicks from BF Goodrich. What do ya think? Will it get him a 12.9 run? |
| |  | RE: More power for 390 - what's the next step? -- Jeff, 04/22/2001
Hi people. Thanks for all the advise, it's all good & I appreciate it. A couple of things, I am running the pertronix setup & I really like it. With my 14" wheels, 235/60 tires & 3.5 gears it already seems to rev harder than it should. It's doing 3000+ cruising on the HWY (frequently 4000+!). This surprises me as wouldn't have thought 3.5 would rev so high. They are definitely 3.5 too. Will jack up car & do rotate thing to check exactly what ratio I'm getting on the street. I think I'II get stickier (& wider) tires. May also consider a squirt of nitrous at some stage. Off now to find a nice quiet country road & leave 2 smoking snaking black marks stretching off into the distance.... and the sound of an FE shifting just shy of 6000rpm. Cheers Jeff |
| |  | How much, besides the coupler, is unique? -- Walker, 04/22/2001
Once installed, can the chain be replaced with ANY chain? Or is it a specially-modified chain?
I too would like to know about this system.
Where is CamReasearch located? |
| | |  | RE: How much, besides the coupler, is unique? -- FE427TP, 04/22/2001
it looks like you use their system, I imagine if you needed it they have replacement chains, from what I've heard of Cam Research they are the quiet really good company |
 | Cobra hubs -- 410cougar, 04/16/2001
where can i get cobra type hubs that have the race type knockoffs. j |
|  | RE: Cobra hubs -- Pat in Rescue, 04/23/2001
They are all pretty pricey, but you may want to try TRIGO (They advertise in KIT CAR magazine) who sell a good looking knock-off and adapter. |
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