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 | WANTED... New OR Used E,brock heads for FE -- Jecsd1, 02/21/2001
will pay shipping. please, heads must be in good condition
Jason |
|  | RE: WANTED... New OR Used E,brock heads for FE -- greg, 02/23/2001
look into summit racing for your heads. They should have them available. |
|  | RE: WANTED... New OR Used E,brock heads for FE -- Pat in Rescue, 02/24/2001
There is a gentleman in the Sacramento California area selling a set of Edelbrock FE heads.
He is asking around $800 for them and they are complete.
The phone number is 530 -626 8981 |
|  | RE: WANTED... New OR Used E,brock heads for FE -- rich, 02/25/2001
I have a brand new set of edelbrock #6006, complete heads. Never used. I decided to stay with my stock SCJ engine. I paid 1225.00 for them. Make me an offer, if it is reasonable, I will take it. I will handle shipping and insurance, so add about $75.00-$80 to your offer to cover it. |
 | 1974 F-100 with a 390 -- Ryan, 02/21/2001
I am looking for any and all info on the mid 70's FE 390. I have recently discovered that Ford quit making the 390 in '71 except for trucks. I have a 1974 F-100 with (supposedly) a 390 in it. I am having trouble finding any books or info with casting numbers, HP, TORQUE, etc. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!
Ryan http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974/ |
|  | RE: 1974 F-100 with a 390 -- ANT, 02/21/2001
You will find the casting numbers in the books"How to Rebuild Big Block Fords"or "Ford High Performance Parts Interchange"
I think your block should have the D3-TE casting number which will be on the side of the lifter galleries and on the bottom outside of the block. Ford stopped making 390's for cars in 71' but continued for trucks until 76'. |
|  | RE: 1974 F-100 with a 390 -- KarlJay, 02/22/2001
I was told my 73 F250 4X4 had a 390 and later found it was only a 360 and so I bought the 390 rebuild kit with crank, later I upgraded to the 428 crank. I've heard that most came with the 360, but that's just rumor.
The truck usually had lower compression than the cars and the HP of the stock 390 is about 265~315 with 427 TQ. The truck version with lower compression will have less. If you can look at the flywheel end of the crank, the square notch cranks are 390 the half-moon ones are 360. Check http://www.ford-trucks.com for more info and they have a link to a VIN number place to check all the options. |
| |  | RE: 1974 F-100 with a 390 -- Jim D, 02/22/2001
The 1968 truck 390 put out 255 HP and had 376 ft/lbs of torque with a 2bbl. I would suspect the '74 model would have slightly lower figures due to emission equipment and larger combustion chambers (lower compression?). |
| |  | RE: Same thing happened to me! -- pete, 02/22/2001
I bought a '76 F250 4x4 and later discovered it was a 360. Where did you purchase your rebuild kit w/390 crank? |
| | |  | motor manual will help -- Tyrel Brandt, 02/24/2001
I have a manual put out by "MOTOR" its universal and if you have a 74 ford f100 as i do it will tell you everything you need to know about pickups and engines up to 76 its really a handy book. i am at college now but i could get some info on that book to you if you are interested |
| | |  | I bought the kit from PAW and regret it -- KarlJay, 02/25/2001
The kit included 'reconditioned' rods and was no cheaper than some of the local shops. The rods were untrue and cost me more damage that a 390 kit would have cost. In other words, don't buy from PAW. |
| | | |  | RE: I bought the kit from PAW and regret it -- ANT, 02/26/2001
Yea I ordered a block from paw and was not pleased with the machining. Going back to what Dave said. The later truck 360/390's have emmissions heads which you will notice have filled in areas on the exhaust ports. |
 | Pertronix ignition -- frank, 02/21/2001
I've read that Pertronix ignition gives better fuel economy. Has anyone that has installed it had a noticeable difference and about how much more. All I know about is points but if it helps on the fuel economy I might try it especially with a 428 cj. I still love FE's though. |
|  | RE: Pertronix ignition -- gerry, 02/21/2001
The problem with ignitions, particularly point triggered, is that they don't have 100 percent success in actually initiating or sustaining combustion. What you want in improving your system is to increase the probability that your mixture will fire and the flame will propagate. Electronic triggers...optical, magnetic, or Hall effect give you a much-improved chance that there will be a field collapse in the coil. Whatever happens after that is subject to your entire ignition system capability. So, yes, a non-mechanical trigger such as the Pertronix will improve the chance that there will be a field collapse and if everything else is in order, a combustion event. The more you improve the chance that any or all cylinders will fire will improve power and economy. There will always be random misfires, but better ignition systems reduce the amount of random misfire.
If you really want to vastly improve your system, look into the Jacobs system. It feedsback the status of the combustion event and will continue to hit the plug until it either reads a good fire or the event has passed and tries again the next go around. |
|  | RE: Pertronix ignition -- Ryan, 02/21/2001
I have a 390 and installed a pertronix ignitor on my engine last summer along with an accel coil and wires and a larger cap and rotor. Huge difference in performance and fuel economy.
http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974 |
|  | RE: Pertronix ignition -- Al, 02/21/2001
Frank I've got the pertronix setup ( the ignitor unit and their Flame Thrower coil) in my '69 F100s 360 and in my '65 Mustangs 289 and its all true. My car went from 10mpg when i got it to 15mpg after I put in the unit , set the ignition timing and readjusted the carb. Same with the 360. It had a good 2brl card on it when I bought it and was only gettin between 8 & 10 mpg and after it shot up to 14 around town and over 15 on the road. They both picked up noticable power gains and response in all weather conditions. Proably the best $80 a piece I ever spent on them. |
| |  | RE: Pertronix ignition -- JC, 02/23/2001
You mentioned readjustment of the carb. What particular adjustment(s) need to be made? Thanks.
JC |
|  | RE: Pertronix ignition -- Stanley Superior, 02/22/2001
test |
| |  | RE: Pertronix ignition -- Tyrel Brandt, 02/24/2001
I installed the pertronix on my 74 f100 390 and noticed imediate response and fuel econmomy improvement well worth the money. |
![Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=5022&Reply=5022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <b>Valves</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>J. Robb, <i>02/20/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>I'm at the stage in my 390 rebuild where I am looking at having the heads machined. I am having a problems finding valves for the engine though. I have looked in Summit and Jegs, neither have a listing for FEs, i've checked out Manleys web site to no avail. there. I went down to the local perf. shop, and they quoted me $250 for 16 vales. I think that is way too much. I am looking for 1-piece Stainless valves. I can get them out of PAW, they are PAW brand. I know they don't make their own stuff, so any ideas on who it could be? Does anyone have any experience with PAW brand parts? Anyone have any better place to look for valves?<br>This is what I am going to have done, do the prices seem fair?<br>Valve Job-$150 (5 angle [its only 20 bucks more than a 3 angle, and they said it flows better])<br>Guides-$64 for 16<br>Hardened Exhaust Seats-$96<br>They said they would Magnaflux them for $25 since I would have all the work done<br>They will also cut the seats out to fit 2.09 intake and 1.65 exhaust valves for $40.<br>If need be, the milling would cost $40.<br>IMO, they are a reputable machine shop...<br>Thanks for any help, especially on the valve issue. </blockquote>](/WebResource.axd?d=vG1pKMaqyV2y6301aKyltu8N0zbCTkKvzch_06o7SYnww5FJPtV8y82MHY1UlqQO7urzKilMYHwhlom9rY-8CcvpjZGBESYtoRT7no7e9ajVKsnuo4gqVz6IvG7o-gIZ0&t=637814653746327080) | Valves -- J. Robb, 02/20/2001
I'm at the stage in my 390 rebuild where I am looking at having the heads machined. I am having a problems finding valves for the engine though. I have looked in Summit and Jegs, neither have a listing for FEs, i've checked out Manleys web site to no avail. there. I went down to the local perf. shop, and they quoted me $250 for 16 vales. I think that is way too much. I am looking for 1-piece Stainless valves. I can get them out of PAW, they are PAW brand. I know they don't make their own stuff, so any ideas on who it could be? Does anyone have any experience with PAW brand parts? Anyone have any better place to look for valves? This is what I am going to have done, do the prices seem fair? Valve Job-$150 (5 angle [its only 20 bucks more than a 3 angle, and they said it flows better]) Guides-$64 for 16 Hardened Exhaust Seats-$96 They said they would Magnaflux them for $25 since I would have all the work done They will also cut the seats out to fit 2.09 intake and 1.65 exhaust valves for $40. If need be, the milling would cost $40. IMO, they are a reputable machine shop... Thanks for any help, especially on the valve issue. |
|  | RE: Valves -- Ed Foral, 02/21/2001
What casting heads do you have? Manley # S-1518(10518) intake A-1521(10521) exhaust Are the NHRA legal reaplacement for a 428. You should be able to get a set from PAW, JEGS, or Summit for near $200 or less
Ed |
|  | RE: Valves -- david kiser, 02/27/2001
I have a full set of Speed Pro Stainless Steel valves new in the boxes that I'm not going to use. They are 2.09 and 1.65 sizes and have swirl polished heads and chrome stems. The PN's are V8024R Exh. and V8026R Intake. I'll sell them for $125. I think I paid $200 or so. |
 | Valvetrain -- ANDY, 02/20/2001
With alot of talk about FEs having weak rocker setups I was wondering what Ford used back in the NASCAR days? In Australia we dont get much history on these motors. This forum is fantastic! Did Ford use shaft end supports and solid spacers? I wouldnt have thought so. Thank You P.S. Very sorry to hear of the loss of Dale Earnhardt. Even if he did play with the wrong toys he was still a great driver. ANDY |
|  | C'mon guys someone must know! nm -- ANDY, 02/21/2001
nm |
|  | RE: Valvetrain -- KarlJay, 02/22/2001
I'm not sure what all of them ran, but some FE's have steel stands and this would help with flex. Most of the setups that we have today seem to be made later than the FE hayday, but I would be interested to know some of the facts too. |
 | Edelbrock Intake & Carb question -- Al, 02/19/2001
I've got a stock 360 from a '69 F100 and I want to know if its true that I can get better performance with the stock cam, heads, and a Pertronix ignition (which is now in the truck) if I use the Edelbrock card (600 cfm) and intake if I stay out of the secondaries. I read this in a few other places and wondered if thare was any truth to it. I rarley run the truck on the highway and when I do I dont push it past 55. So will I get better milege with the Edelbrock induction on the stock heads? I get a good 14 MPG around town and just over 16 on the highway with the stock 2bbrl setup now ,so I sure don't want it to go down. Any input is appreciated |
|  | RE: Edelbrock Intake & Carb question -- Jim D, 02/20/2001
I seriously doubt you can top what you've got in terms of economy. I've heard most 360's only get around 8-10 mpg STOCK. If you get such good mileage and wouldn't use the added performance the 4bbl offers, why would you even consider the costly and time consuming swap? The next question is what rate does the Edelbrock 4bbl flow on the two main barrels? I think factory 2bbl's have a max flow of ~350 CFM. |
|  | RE: Edelbrock Intake & Carb question -- Ed Foral, 02/21/2001
Al Yes.....your highway mileage should improve with the change you are considering, BUT, it takes a lot of miles to make up the $500 price tag. If your carb is working well, and you are satisfied with the power, stick with your 2V. You may only improve a couple of points, and you may pick up some bad cold weather starting and warming up characteristics with the change, which would make your mileage worse during cold weather.
Ed |
| |  | RE: Edelbrock Intake & Carb question -- ANT, 02/21/2001
I have talked to people that said they got more mpg with the performer swap. It may be because their old carbs were worn out? I think the mileage should increase. You must tune the new edelbrock carb right. And it will take a long time to gain back the $500 cost. It may not be worth it. |
| | |  | RE: Edelbrock Intake & Carb question--Thanks! -- Al, 02/21/2001
Thanks guys. Jim I had read about the swap and just wanted to see if you all had any experience with it, and the carb is rated at 600cfm, but I don't know what the mains are rated at. I dont do much highway driving but when I do I'm usually haulin somethin in the back or pullin somethin on the rear. I bought the truck a couple of months ago and didn't have any real world experience with the FE engines, so after some checkin I was curious about the engine and its milege/performance posabilites. The truck is doin so great now with the 360/3spd tranny/3.25:1 gears and I'm very pleased with the power and response, I may stick with the 2brl setup. Just wanted to see if I could squeeze a little more out of her. Thanks for the comments fellers. |
| | | |  | RE: Edelbrock Intake & Carb question--Thanks! -- Tyrel Brandt, 02/25/2001
i have the same setup a 74 f100 390, i already have the carb on there and i just bought the manifold and i am thinking of going with the matching cam for the manifold any coments, i don't know much about cams but i think this .460 int and .480 ex lift and the 194 in and 204 ex duration might be a little small my engin is not built it is stock 8.1 or 8.5 compression c6 and 3.25 rearend it does have a pertronix ignition and i am planning on getting a 3.73 rearend and headers this summer. any comments thank you |
 | SOHC vs medium-riser, intakes & intake-to-heads -- Walker, 02/19/2001
1)Side by side, how do the intake ports line up in a SOHC head vs a regular medium-riser head, disregarding shape and relative size? 2)Comparing the base of intakes, SOHC vs medium-riser, are they the same width? Same length? Same angle at the head/intake mating surfaces? 3)What sort of difference is there at the front of the intake? Does the distributor mount in the same location?
Can a medium riser intake's middle section be cut out and welded onto a SOHC's base with flanges, and have the ports line up? With much rod and epoxy and time of course.
Thanks
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|  | Beats me, but I'm shooting a SOHC 4V set-up, tom'w. [n/m] -- Mr F, 02/19/2001
n/m |
 | FE iron headers -- Glenn, 02/19/2001
Can anyone ID what these headers could have come off of or what they may fit by the part numbers? C3AE-9431-D C2AE-9430-B Thank you. |
 | 428 CJ Engine Numbers -- Ed McClarty, 02/19/2001
I looked at the previously mentioned 428 Cobra Jet Engine. The block is a C6ME-A, Heads D2TEAA (not M2T as previously mentioned), and the exhaust manifold (LHS) D2TE9431AA. An aftermarket intake was on it so no numbers. Does anyone know what this engine actually is?? Thanks, Ed |
|  | It's most likely a 360, maybe a 390. -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
Someone is looking for a sucker. There doesn't seem to be much royalty in those part numbers.
Some C6ME-A blocks were cast with good features, but most have the plain mains and 360/390 cylinder sleeves - good stuff, but not worth a premium CJ pricetag. In itself, the C6ME-A doresn't say much, because Ford used that number in several different casting variations.
Shoe. |
| |  | RE: It's most likely a 360, maybe a 390. -- Ed McClarty, 02/19/2001
Thanks Dave. I talked to an old Ford mechanic locally and he thought it was a standard 428 block with heads from a 1972 390 truck engine. Sounds like it is not worth the $ 2000 this fellow is asking. |
| | |  | RE: It's most likely a 360, maybe a 390. -- RC Moser, 02/19/2001
I'd verify the stroke and check out the flywheel or crank. It will tell the true story. 2 grand, unless it is fully documented and can be verified (Know who rebuilt it and trust them). If not 900 to 1200 sound like a more reasonable price. |
| | | |  | RE: It's most likely a 360, maybe a 390. -- Dave, 02/20/2001
If the seller is honest, he would let you remove the pan to check the numbers on the crank. Any one involved with FE's can understand the rareity of some parts and the visual simularities. I wouldn't make the purchase unless I had some cold hard facts to back up the price. Namely, corresponding numbers or you could even go as far as to pull one head to check bore and stroke. This can be done with something as simple as a tape measure. I was almost had one time buying what the seller thought was a 428. As it turned out, someone had removed the 428 from a car that was still wearing the "428" emblems and replaced it with a 390. Good hunting... |
 | vac. advance -- frank, 02/18/2001
I have a 69 428 cj and the vaccum advance went out. So I went to autozone and bought one. The one they had was adjustable and I put it on with out adjusting. After I started it it ran fine so I drove it, and the question is at Idle the tach is fine but if I rev the engine up and hold it there the tach will jump up and down about 600 rpms. I was wondering if it could be the advance and if so should I adjust it in or out. I don't think it's the tach because it worked fine before the new advance. Any help would be appreciated. |
|  | RE: vac. advance -- RC Moser, 02/18/2001
Do you hear the Engine rev. when the tach bounces. If not it's a probably a tach wire connection problem or ground with the tach. Maybe you knocked something loose while changing the vacuum advance. Not familar with the one you have, but, ususally they adjust by adding washers under the spring or different springs or by a allen head screw in the end through the vacuum hose connection. This adjustment usually only affects off idle dist. advance. I say if the engine is not reving when the tach bounces is probably a loose wire or bad ground.. Maybe you get some more opinions... |
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