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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4875&Reply=4875><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>CAN post new posts! CAN'T post replys [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>GalaxieFiveOhOh, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> CAN post new posts! CAN'T post replys [n/m] -- GalaxieFiveOhOh, 02/13/2001
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 An update got messed up. Try it now. [n/m] -- Mr F, 02/13/2001
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4874&Reply=4874><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>problems posting, anybody else having trouble!</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>RC Moser, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Having problems posting to messages, but the new post seems to work. maybe it's my old puter? </blockquote> problems posting, anybody else having trouble! -- RC Moser, 02/13/2001
Having problems posting to messages, but the new post seems to work. maybe it's my old puter?
 My fault, guys. Should be Ok, now. [n/m] -- Mr F, 02/13/2001
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4872&Reply=4872><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>390</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>How would a 390.. date coded Jan. 29th 1969,.....with a 428 CJ intake and exhaust manifolds compare with an orginal "s" code 1966 390?......oh yeah it has a '68 holley 4150 ..600 cfm too. </blockquote> 390 -- mike, 02/12/2001
How would a 390.. date coded Jan. 29th 1969,.....with a 428 CJ intake and exhaust manifolds compare with an orginal "s" code 1966 390?......oh yeah it has a '68 holley 4150 ..600 cfm too.
 Prob. somewhat stronger, but largely the same[n/m] -- Mr F, 02/13/2001
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4871&Reply=4871><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Headers for 390GT - 67 Mustang</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Steve Mason, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hello forumers<br>If anyone has any feedback on the $95.00 headers Crites Restoration is selling for the 390GT for a 67 Mustang w/ Auto & PSteering ....... I would like to hear from them. Are these cheap headers or worth the price ? <br>Can you recommend any other makers (& contact info) of headers for this car ?<br>Whose are easiest to install, I understand they are a tight fit and may involve lifting the motor to get in !<br>Thanks for any help or advice.<br>Steve </blockquote> Headers for 390GT - 67 Mustang -- Steve Mason, 02/12/2001
Hello forumers
If anyone has any feedback on the $95.00 headers Crites Restoration is selling for the 390GT for a 67 Mustang w/ Auto & PSteering ....... I would like to hear from them. Are these cheap headers or worth the price ?
Can you recommend any other makers (& contact info) of headers for this car ?
Whose are easiest to install, I understand they are a tight fit and may involve lifting the motor to get in !
Thanks for any help or advice.
Steve
 try www.fordpowertrain.com -- Walker, 02/13/2001
They won't be $95. But they seem to have a good reputation. For quality and tight fits.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4857&Reply=4857><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Valve job</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ryan, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a '74 F-100 w/ 390 and am going to pull the heads off soon to have the vales redone.  I beleive this will be the first time it has ever been done! lOOKS LIKE IT ANYWAYS!?  I was looking for someone out there to give me a little guidance on what to replace when doing this and how to know what sizes etc to go with.  I will be changing the timing chain/gears and cam also.  Maybe you know of some really good articles to read on the web?  All help will be greatly appreciated!<br><br><a href="http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974/">http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974/</a><br> </blockquote> Valve job -- Ryan, 02/12/2001
I have a '74 F-100 w/ 390 and am going to pull the heads off soon to have the vales redone. I beleive this will be the first time it has ever been done! lOOKS LIKE IT ANYWAYS!? I was looking for someone out there to give me a little guidance on what to replace when doing this and how to know what sizes etc to go with. I will be changing the timing chain/gears and cam also. Maybe you know of some really good articles to read on the web? All help will be greatly appreciated!

http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974/
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4860&Reply=4857><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Valve job</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Steve Mason, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Check out this web site for cams and it gives you also the recommended Valve Springs , etc.<br>         www.cranecams.com<br><br>regards<br>Steve<br> </blockquote> RE: Valve job -- Steve Mason, 02/12/2001
Check out this web site for cams and it gives you also the recommended Valve Springs , etc.
www.cranecams.com

regards
Steve
 RE: Valve job -- Ryan, 02/12/2001
Checked it out! Perfect...just what I was looking for. Same brand just didn't think about looking at their web site! Thanks for the help!

http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974/
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4886&Reply=4857><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Valve job</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ryan, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hey Steve, or anyone else out there!  If you're still looking at this, then please help me with knowing what "valves" to buy for my 390?  The heads are still original I think, and the "Crane Cams" website didn't have anything on this. Just the accessories.  Thanks again.<br><br><a href="http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974">http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974</a> </blockquote> RE: Valve job -- Ryan, 02/13/2001
Hey Steve, or anyone else out there! If you're still looking at this, then please help me with knowing what "valves" to buy for my 390? The heads are still original I think, and the "Crane Cams" website didn't have anything on this. Just the accessories. Thanks again.

http://www.geocities.com/bozo_1974
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4893&Reply=4857><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE:69 mach1 need advice please!</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>dale large, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Sorry this isn't an FE qustion? But I hear a lot of good advice on this web site. Hear it goes, I have a 69 mach1 project car . I have a problem with the windows rolling up. Its like the window,dont fit the the jams right?? I dont have a lot of experance with that.. I moved the window on its track back and too and I think I might have tilted it up or down also. Could it be a wrong window ? how do I tell? The car is no cherry. The car has had a bunch of changes throug its years. Nothing org. In clueding A bad ass 428 w/ c-6 3.73 rear. any advice?? Hope nobody cares I got away with from an FE question!! thanks!! </blockquote> RE:69 mach1 need advice please! -- dale large, 02/13/2001
Sorry this isn't an FE qustion? But I hear a lot of good advice on this web site. Hear it goes, I have a 69 mach1 project car . I have a problem with the windows rolling up. Its like the window,dont fit the the jams right?? I dont have a lot of experance with that.. I moved the window on its track back and too and I think I might have tilted it up or down also. Could it be a wrong window ? how do I tell? The car is no cherry. The car has had a bunch of changes throug its years. Nothing org. In clueding A bad ass 428 w/ c-6 3.73 rear. any advice?? Hope nobody cares I got away with from an FE question!! thanks!!
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4894&Reply=4857><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Maybe it's hardtop glass!</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>martin edridge, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Are you sure the glass is for fastback? Maybe someone swopped on doors from a hardtop (same) but left the glass in (different)  Is the fit close, or  along way out, 'cos if it's a long way out, then I would bet it's got the wrong glass. You might be better off posting this in the General Forum, might get more replies.  HTH<br>Cheers,  Martin. </blockquote> Maybe it's hardtop glass! -- martin edridge, 02/13/2001
Are you sure the glass is for fastback? Maybe someone swopped on doors from a hardtop (same) but left the glass in (different) Is the fit close, or along way out, 'cos if it's a long way out, then I would bet it's got the wrong glass. You might be better off posting this in the General Forum, might get more replies. HTH
Cheers, Martin.
 RE: Valves & Glass -- Steve Mason, 02/14/2001
Hi Ryan
To answer your question on valves, unless the existing valves are burnt there is no reason to replace them. If they are burnt, then you can replace them with Ford Valves, same as what was in there to begin with. They are sturdy, and a good size, right from the factory. However you can make them work better !
When you are getting the Heads re-done, there are several Valve Grinds that you can get done, such as 3 angle, 5 angle etc. that will improve valve seating & performance. Talk to the fellow doing you r Heads re-work about this. He should have some options for you. There also some different Valve guide & seal options.
Aftermarket racing vavlves are fine, but, are you going to need them for some Bracket racing once in a while & otherwise Street use ? a waste of alot of money !!
Invest all that money in a good Manifold, Carb, & Headers.
That combined with a decent rear end gear ratio will launch you like no tommorrow (if you can keep the tires hookin-up).
Now, to address Martin's question about the window........ sometimes the device which lowers & raises the window gets old & crotchety (like me) and doesn't want to go up level, so it appears the window doesn't fit, but in fact it is just going up out of square so to speak. You will need to take off the door panels and inspect everything in the mechanism, and try to put it up & down while you are watching the mechanism. It is pretty straightforward and you should be able to tell if it is a broken part or worn part. Replace it !
Hope this helps !
Steve
 RE:69 mach1 need advice please! -- Robert Mitchell, 02/17/2001
A solution to your problem with the glass is at hand, but will cost a few bucks too. In my experience, if the glass doesn't follow the profile of the door frame, its for another different application. 69 glass also easily becomes unglued from the channels that it uses to attatch to the regulator (the x-shaped mechanism inside the door). The best and most permanent fix, which I've performed several times, is to replace the glass with a set from a 70 fastback. Trick is, and it applies to all body styles, is that you MUST change the door glass, regulators and ancilliary internals, and in the case of non-fastbacks, the quarter glass also. Reason for this is the door glass is a different length and the door glass edge seal is different between the two years also. If you swap edge seals back to the original 69 style, nobody will know the difference. AND, you get bolt-in windows that will never come unglued and rattle around in the door again. By the way, the regulators are contoured and proportioned differently. Good Luck, Robert
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4856&Reply=4856><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>360 hop up</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ace, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Ive got a 360 in my '69 F100 and Im thinkin about hoppin it up. I want to stay with the 360 so no 390 crank/rods/pistons or other. Thinkin about the Edelbrock RPM heads,Intake and cam with a 600 CFM Edelbrock carb or a 625 CFM Road Demon. Also goin for headers. Any opinions on other parts? An estimate on HP/TQ/RPM #'s form some FE experts would be appreciated. This is a street truck so nothig to wild please. And what is the deal with this STANLEY SUPERIOR guy? </blockquote> 360 hop up -- Ace, 02/12/2001
Ive got a 360 in my '69 F100 and Im thinkin about hoppin it up. I want to stay with the 360 so no 390 crank/rods/pistons or other. Thinkin about the Edelbrock RPM heads,Intake and cam with a 600 CFM Edelbrock carb or a 625 CFM Road Demon. Also goin for headers. Any opinions on other parts? An estimate on HP/TQ/RPM #'s form some FE experts would be appreciated. This is a street truck so nothig to wild please. And what is the deal with this STANLEY SUPERIOR guy?
 RE: 360 hop up -- RC Moser, 02/14/2001
Ace, you probably need to price some of the aftermarket parts to see if it's worth the cost. If you want to do the 360 I suggest a mild upgrade in pistons to get the compression up to or around 9.0 to 1, A mild RV cam, and al. intake, if nothing else for the weight saving along. Then a good carb. The stock 4100s are good and easy to adjust and rebuild. Mybe some one else will suggest a good aftermarket carb. I heard of the demons, but personally have owned one. Now for the torque and HP I say a good guess would be around 290 HP and about 325 lbs of torque between 3000 to 3800 RPM. And probably done around 4800 RPM. As for Stanley pretty much don't like FEs, but, usually gives good advise. But, remember we are not buying the parts, so the hard decisions are up to you. Maybe this will spark some more responses disputing my theory's.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4849&Reply=4849><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>not to sound stupid...but...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Anthony, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>What does "FE" stand for? </blockquote> not to sound stupid...but... -- Anthony, 02/12/2001
What does "FE" stand for?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4850&Reply=4849><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: not to sound stupid...but...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ryan S., <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>FE stands for Ford Edsel, which is where these motors began their life in 1958. <br><br>Thanks,<br>Ryan<br><br>BTW there are NO stupid questions. </blockquote> RE: not to sound stupid...but... -- Ryan S., 02/12/2001
FE stands for Ford Edsel, which is where these motors began their life in 1958.

Thanks,
Ryan

BTW there are NO stupid questions.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4851&Reply=4849><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: not to sound stupid...but...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Thunderbird Rob, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Thought the first FE was put in a truck...  just wondering... thanks<br><br>Rob </blockquote> RE: not to sound stupid...but... -- Thunderbird Rob, 02/12/2001
Thought the first FE was put in a truck... just wondering... thanks

Rob
 RE: not to sound stupid...but... -- Dave Shoe, 02/12/2001
Trucks got the FT starting in 1964. Pickups got the FE352 starting in 1965.

You're probably thinking of hte L332 motor, which was sorta from the "Y-block" era (similar valve cover style) and is easily identified because the oil filter pokes straight out the drivers side of the block, not angled down slightly like the Y-block.

Again, I'm posting non-verified info,
Shoe.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4846&Reply=4846><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Intermitant smoke?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>GalaxieFiveOhOh, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Ok guys, question for ya. When I start up in the morning I get a pretty good puff of blue smoke that I assume is from worn valve guides. But this only happens ocassionally. If the guides were worn wouldn't it smoke EVERY morning? </blockquote> Intermitant smoke? -- GalaxieFiveOhOh, 02/12/2001
Ok guys, question for ya. When I start up in the morning I get a pretty good puff of blue smoke that I assume is from worn valve guides. But this only happens ocassionally. If the guides were worn wouldn't it smoke EVERY morning?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4848&Reply=4846><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Intermitant smoke?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>RC Moser, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>I don't think so, operating temp. and how long you drove the car sometimes has something to do with it. I would check out the PCV valve or ventalation system make sure it's not sucking it up from the pan. Also, if you have power brakes sometime the booster will leak and suck some brake fluid into the intake causing some smoke, but you your brake fluid level should be dropping do to the lose fluid. A little smoke ocassionly is really hard to track down. But the most obvious is what fluids are being used up. So, if you engine is using a quart of oil every 500 miles. Then you'll have to figure if it's leaking past the top end or the bottom end. A compression check/leak down check should eliminate the bottom end.   </blockquote> RE: Intermitant smoke? -- RC Moser, 02/12/2001
I don't think so, operating temp. and how long you drove the car sometimes has something to do with it. I would check out the PCV valve or ventalation system make sure it's not sucking it up from the pan. Also, if you have power brakes sometime the booster will leak and suck some brake fluid into the intake causing some smoke, but you your brake fluid level should be dropping do to the lose fluid. A little smoke ocassionly is really hard to track down. But the most obvious is what fluids are being used up. So, if you engine is using a quart of oil every 500 miles. Then you'll have to figure if it's leaking past the top end or the bottom end. A compression check/leak down check should eliminate the bottom end.
 RE: Intermitant smoke? -- John, 02/12/2001
2 other possibilities

1/ outside air temp in the morning causes oil to drainback at different rates. Flooding of the heads may occur on cold mornings with more oil being drawn down the valve guides due to slower oil drainback and the oil level in the heads rising

2/ depends what part of the rotation your engine stopped at. A particular guide(or seal) may be the culprit and allow oil to drain into the chamber ONLY when the valve is open, which is dependant on where it stopped when you shut the engine down

2 more cents worth....chuckle
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4844&Reply=4844><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>factory 427 Galaxie Station Wagons? + XL Wagons</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>kevin t, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>Can anyone verify if any 427 wagons were built? The factory says no, but I've heard they made 5 in 1963 and 3 in 1964.  Also, Do you guys remember the sport bucket seat option on the wagons? They didn't call them xl's, but they had XL seats with a different grain on the vinyl. I believe it was the Mercury Marauder grain. I've heard they only made around 100 of these and have only seen one in real life. I have pics of another.  </blockquote> factory 427 Galaxie Station Wagons? + XL Wagons -- kevin t, 02/12/2001
Can anyone verify if any 427 wagons were built? The factory says no, but I've heard they made 5 in 1963 and 3 in 1964. Also, Do you guys remember the sport bucket seat option on the wagons? They didn't call them xl's, but they had XL seats with a different grain on the vinyl. I believe it was the Mercury Marauder grain. I've heard they only made around 100 of these and have only seen one in real life. I have pics of another.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4862&Reply=4844><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>XL Wagons</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>I don't know about the 427 wagons but I did see a 63 Ford Wagon with buckets seats. It was a Country Squier and was being driven by the daughter of the owner of Kopola Ford in Fairfield, Connecticut. </blockquote> XL Wagons -- Lou, 02/12/2001
I don't know about the 427 wagons but I did see a 63 Ford Wagon with buckets seats. It was a Country Squier and was being driven by the daughter of the owner of Kopola Ford in Fairfield, Connecticut.
 RE: XL Wagons -- Travis Miller, 02/12/2001
I went to my personal library of car data books and pulled out "The Production Figure Book For U.S. Cars" by Jerry Heasley copyrighted 1977. According to it, in 1963 there were bucket seats put in both 6 and 9 passenger full size Country Squire wagons. The 6 pass had a body code of 71G and there were 437 built. The 9 pass code was 71H and there were 321 built. There is no mention of a special name such as XL Wagon or anything else for these cars. The book only shows them in 1963, not '64.

I can remember seeing one at a Ford dealer in 1963. Was with my uncle while he was car shopping. It was on the used car lot. They said it was a demonstrator, which today is called a factory exec car.

I have heard stories of a 427 wagon being built at the Dallas Galaxie plant but never could pin down anyone who actually saw it.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4842&Reply=4842><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>428 cj mustang heater motor shield info</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>frank, <i>02/12/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote> Does anyone have any pics and info on how the heater motor shield bolts on?  I just found one and was wondering if it goes on the studs on the firewall that hold the motor in place. I'm getting it shipped to me so I have not looked at how it should go on.  If anyone has any good pic's please e-mail them to me. I know there's not a lot of room. Thanks for any help.<br><br>cj428mach@yahoo.com </blockquote> 428 cj mustang heater motor shield info -- frank, 02/12/2001
Does anyone have any pics and info on how the heater motor shield bolts on? I just found one and was wondering if it goes on the studs on the firewall that hold the motor in place. I'm getting it shipped to me so I have not looked at how it should go on. If anyone has any good pic's please e-mail them to me. I know there's not a lot of room. Thanks for any help.

cj428mach@yahoo.com
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4881&Reply=4842><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: 428 cj mustang heater motor shield info</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Morgan, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>e-mail me your address and I will try to send you a picture of at least a diagram.<br><br>Morgan </blockquote> RE: 428 cj mustang heater motor shield info -- Morgan, 02/13/2001
e-mail me your address and I will try to send you a picture of at least a diagram.

Morgan
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4884&Reply=4842><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>His eMail link is next to the post's title. [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> His eMail link is next to the post's title. [n/m] -- Mr F, 02/13/2001
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4889&Reply=4842><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Snail Mail address?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Morgan, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>nm </blockquote> RE: Snail Mail address? -- Morgan, 02/13/2001
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4895&Reply=4842><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Oh - gotcha.  ;-)  [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>02/13/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> Oh - gotcha. ;-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 02/13/2001
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 RE: CJ heater blower motor heat shield -- Robert Mitchell, 02/17/2001
Your guess is correct, and when you get the shield you will see. A 70 Mach 1 I just dismantled still had the heat shield, and as I recall, once I got the monkey-snot scraped off, it was attatched with nuts (with the integral floating lock washer) on top of the nuts already holding the heater motor. Double check with somebody who has a car at least from the same assembly plant as yours, and perhaps produced around the same time as yours, if this is a concours car. Good Luck and aloha, Robert
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