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| Part troubles for a 390 -- Amanda Fulmer, 08/11/2005
I've been looking EVERYWHERE for parts for my 390. I was told by the previous owner that the parts are compatable with another sized engine. He said 428. I just want to know before I spend money. |
| | Depends on which parts... -- 68S-Code, 08/11/2005
What parts are you looking for? Crank and pistons are diff. Rods the same. For external parts, I would think that most things will swap. Heads, intakes, exhaust manifolds (depending on the heads), distributors, carbs, pulleys etc. The one thing that will not swap is the balancer (the wheel on the front of the crankshaft). Some of the guru's here can be more specific, but that's off the top of my head. |
| | RE: Part troubles for a 390 -- giacamo, 08/11/2005
general parts are failey comon, hp heads and some hp factory intakes,may be hard to find, what do you nead?some one hear can point you in the right direction. |
| C7AF-AA Distributor -- Ken, 08/09/2005
What application for this distributor? Mustang or Fairlane-Thunderbird? |
| | RE: C7AF-AA Distributor -- Barry B, 08/09/2005
C7AF-12127-AA
’67 390 2V, 270hp, Auto, Reg. Fuel, Ford, Merc. ’68 390 2V, 265hp, Auto, Reg. Fuel, Ford, Merc, Fairlane, Cougar, Montego ’69 390 2V, 265hp, Auto, Reg. Fuel, Ford, Merc. ’70 390 2V, 270hp, Auto, Reg. Fuel, Ford, Merc.
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| | | Huh?? -- Royce P, 08/09/2005
Where did that info come from? There was never a regular fuel 390 in a Cougar or Mustang.
Royce |
| | | | RE: Huh?? -- Barry B, 08/09/2005
From the '68 Ford Car Service Spec. book, first printing - Nov. '67, I'm just reading what it says, thought the Cougar listing was interesting.
Yeah you're right, these first printings show what could have been but never happened, like a 427 in the '68 Mustang. Hey I can tell you what would have been the correct distributor. :) Now don't be too hard on me, I'm not feeling well. :( |
| | | | | I looked it up in the Master Parts catalog -- Royce P, 08/10/2005
It is correct for:
1967 or 1968 Full size Ford and Mercury with 390-2V and automatic transmission with or without Thermactor emission system.
1967 - 68 Fairlane and Comet with 390-2V and automatic transmission.
1969 - 70 Meteor (Canadian) with 390-2V and automatic transmission.
Royce |
| | | | | | FYI: I checked with several 1967 & 1968 MPC printings... [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/10/2005
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| | | | | | 'AA' looks like a service part...and for 1967 full-size, only. [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/10/2005
n/m, |
| | | | | | If I'm right, then any 'correctness' is arguable, at least. [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/10/2005
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| | | | | | | Thanks Royce & Mr. F -- Barry B, 08/10/2005
for checking it out in the MPC. I've got the '75 final edition, it's pretty much useless. |
| | | | | | | | Look in 67 and 68 Comet / Fairlane Shop Manuals -- Royce P, 08/10/2005
In my original edition '67 manual it is called out in the distributor chart on page 9-47.
In my original edition '68 manual it is called out on page 9-39.
In my original edition '69 manual it is called out on page 09-03-05.
Looks like it is not a sevice part, and is clearly called out for 390-2V intermediates.
Royce |
| | | | | RE: Huh?? -- roland, 08/20/2005
Dear Barry I know of an original 68 Fastback with 427, VIN reads 8T02W... Who knows how many are built ? The car is for sale ... regards |
| | | | | | RE: Huh?? -- randy, 08/20/2005
Roland, I would be interested in car you are talking about |
| | | | | | | RE: Huh?? -- roland, 08/20/2005
randy interested buying it ? I do have to check with Auto Marti, I do have the whole VIN Do you know how many were actually built ? |
| | | | | | Really? -- Barry B, 08/20/2005
That would be very interesting! Does the owner have a VIN report? If real it would be worth some big bucks! |
| | | | | | | RE: Really? -- roland, 08/20/2005
Randy as far I know, no. But I've the whole VIN und will check it with Marti Auto, if this car is known. Do you know how many were built ? regards |
| | | | | | | | RE: Really? -- Barry B, 08/20/2005
Roland,
Kevin Marti says 0 were built, I've heard numbers 0, 1 and 2. Who knows?
Will be interesting what the VIN report says. Keep us informed!
thanks! |
| | | | | | | | RE: Really? -- randy, 08/20/2005
Roland, I have a magazine with a roadtest on one. email me superdragpak-boss302@yahoo.com |
| | | | | | | | | It's an obvious fake. -- Royce P, 08/21/2005
The door tag is hilarious with a nonsense date code and an obvious fake. The window tag is mounted on the wrong side of the car LOL. Must have been someone who knew almost nothing about '68 Mustangs who did the work trying to fake this one up.
The VIN falls into the middle of April 1968. Anyone who thinks it is real needs to pony up $25 so they can find out which 289, 302 or 6 cylinder actually came in the car.
Royce |
| | | | | | | | | | RE: It's an obvious fake. -- roland, 08/21/2005
you're an expert ? LOL Check out, this car came with a C6, and has a 9" rearend installed, 3.50 "Equa-Lock". Ever seen this in combination with a 302 or even a 6 banger ? It has to be at least a 390.
NEVER say NEVER regards |
| | | | | | | | | | | OK. Prove me wrong please! -- Royce Peterson, 08/21/2005
I am an educated hobbyist. "Expert" covers a lot of ground. Right now I owns two 1968 W code 427 Cougars. If you know anyone with more W code knowledge I would like to meet him or her.
Kevin Marti owns all the records for every VIN. If he says there were no cars produced with a W engine code in 1968 except the 357 Mercury Cougar GT-E's then I have to believe him.
Blank reproduction data plates and VIN plates have been available for 20 years. The door plate shown is not an original one and the font is unlike the original font. Same goes for the windshield data plate. The parts like the rear axle and transmission likely have wrong date codes etc too. If the car, me and you were all in the same location I would be happy to educate you on all the reasons it is obviously a poor attempt at fakery.
Kevin can tell you the original engine code that came with that VIN for $25. I can guarantee it was not a W.
Royce |
| | | | | | | | | | | | RE: OK. Prove me wrong please! -- roland, 08/21/2005
Will check it out with Marti Auto. The door plate is the one used for Shelbys and Bosses (strange). I assume the font is correct, did cross check it with my original GT 390 Fastback ones. Congratulations for your W-Codes Cougars. Where are now the 429 BOSS Cougars ? regards |
| | | | | | | | | | | | Finally, it's a fake !! see Marti ... -- roland, 08/21/2005
Royce, you're right, it's a bogus, see the Marti Comments :
Forum Vintage Mustang
But, at least it was a 390-4V...
Now I know that this car is wrong, I hopefully can sleep much better ...
;-)
regards
Roland
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| | | | | | | | | | | | RE: OK. Prove me wrong please! -- walt, 08/22/2005
hey royce got a friend trying to repair his 68 cougar,any how the 302,c4 8 inch disappeared YEARS agonow has a 9 ",4 speed,351 w,ported 69 heads,c7fe cam,ran 12's in 71-78,any how car hasn't ran since 78,and now the guy is interrested in one of my 428's,the 351,froze up solid,wan't to turn it into some gt,r code,what ever |
| | | | | | | | | | | | RE: OK. Prove me wrong please! -- roland, 08/25/2005
Royce you said in another forum, that the intake is obviously a '64 or older Low Riser and the block if it is a top oiler is not a '68 passenger car engine ? The owner told me, it's a high riser ? Why is it not a 68 passenger car engine, what is it instead ? I'm thinking about buying this engine ... thanks Roland
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| | | | | | RE: Huh?? -- walt, 08/22/2005
boy you brought up a hot subjrct,i seen them,knew a guy who had one,(plain jane black)and they said i'm nuts,ps i did find out that it was an c6 automatic ,only trans available,and seen a gt 500 (68)with the 427,dealer installed?and a cougar,(68) early,and there was rumors of a 427 cougar in 67some gt,r,s,e,non gt ? can't remember |
| stroker kits -- mike, 08/09/2005
I have a 390 and a 428 cj.Has any one used any of the stroker kits made for these engines? |
| | RE: stroker kits -- gene simmons, 08/09/2005
made my own using a 428 crank in my 390, came to out 416, but scat has kits now for these that have a 4.25 stroke for 431ci or 454ci i think with a 428 block. just like the old saying theres no replacement for displacement |
| 1967 Mustang Hood -- Jim Hanson, 08/08/2005
Has anyone ever seen a 1967 Mustang with an original hood W/O the indents for the turn signal??
How can I tell what car a hood is for? I cannot find any stamping that gives me a date.
Thank You! |
| | | RE: Sure! -- Jim Hanson, 08/08/2005
Thanks Berry!
I have posted my question on the other forum!! |
| 9" axle runout? -- Geoff McNew, 08/07/2005
So, none of my Ford manuals have a spec on this....all it gives are center section & pinion dims///
What sorta maximum run out for an axle shaft is OK?........it translates to rear tire wobble.
In other words, when I pull the brake drum and run a dial against the wheel flange mounting surface, just outside the studs....and I'm looking to see if it's the wheel or the axle that's out...what should I see?
is 0.004"...0.007".....is that OK?
.....keep in mind, I'm not running Talladega. |
| | Math test -- raycfe, 08/07/2005
You have me thinking..dangerous..If there is .007" at 2" from center, then .007 X 14.0 (radius of the tire and wheel) equals .098 of an inch. Doesn't sound like much. What do you think? I would just try another wheel and tire and see if the wobble changes. Just my 2 cents |
| | RE: 9" axle runout? -- R. Hunt, 08/07/2005
That small amount is all it takes to make your brakes, or the seal not work properly. In other words it is bad enough to not leave it like it is and just forget about it.
Also, you really should check the tire wobble near the outer edge and see just what the tire is having to go through. In my opinion if you can rotate a tire and wheel on a car and see it wobble with your naked eye, then it needs to be fixed. A tire just will not last anywhere close to what it should at the point. |
| motor mounts -- Joe, 08/06/2005
Is there a difference between big block and small block motor mounts and brackets? I got mine from Pony Express in MD. He said there is no difference. But the shop that rebuilt my motor said it's sitting too low. Can someone help. Thanks, Joe |
| 85 mustang timing chain help -- Jim, 08/06/2005
Help. I'm replacing the timing belt on my 85 Mustang 4 cyl. H/B. Need to know Factory settings (arrow positons) for upper and lower gears. |
| | check your email n/m -- Barry B, 08/06/2005
n/m |
| smoking 390 -- Tim Shride, 08/05/2005
I have approx 700 miles on a completely rebuilt 390 on a 64 T-bird (97000 miles total). Drivers side blows bluish smoke. Doesn't appear to smoke at low speeds, but on freeway when coasting, it blows quite a bit. The more I coast, the more smoke. When I hit the accelerator again, I get a large puff of same smoke, then it goes away until I coast again. Doesn't seem to do this when starting from a dead stop, ie at a stop sign. Only happens on drivers side exhaust. Current mechanic says I just need to drive the car more, as rings etc. may not have "seated" yet. He is not the same mechanic who rebuilt the engine. (they don't know each other either!) Car runs beautifully otherwise. Newly remanufactured carb from Pony Carbs works great. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. I know just enough about engines to be dangerous and/or paranoid! |
| | RE: smoking 390 -- giacamo, 08/06/2005
i,s hard to say i,d pull the plugs and look at them. and see if it,s burning oil thear or passing oil by the exaust guids, did thay install the oil deflector tin for the valves?may be a bad vacume modulater on the transmission sucking trans fluid making it smoke? |
| | | RE: smoking 390 -- Tim Shride, 08/06/2005
Thanks, I'll pull the plugs and take a look. It is going through alot of oil. Something like a quart after 100 miles. I know some of it is leaking as well. |
| | | RE: What kind of rings did you use? See related... -- Tim Shride, 08/06/2005
Thanks for the help, really appreciate it. I don't know what kind of rings were used. Will have to speak to the mechanic who did the work, but Chromoly is sounding very familiar for some reason...Thanks for the referral to the previous thread. I got some good info that should help me get this figured out. I don't know enough to be taking things apart myself, so looks like I'll have to look again for a good mechanic in Connecticut! |
| | | | I had same problem......sort of.... -- John, 08/07/2005
1/ Oil overpowering heads......can't drain back fast enough...gets sucked down exhaust valves........switch to 15W50 synthetic for a start. (I think this is why the driver's side suffers more.....isn't the driver's side cyl head the one that gets top end oil first?) Anyway, oil restrictor mods are easy without tearing the engine apart again.
2/ Rings not seated yet...takes about 1000 to 2000 miles....sometims more.
3/ Engine leaks oil.....I am meticulous with rebuliding engines, yet every FE I've done, leaks oil. I'm not even sure from where.....LOL. |
| | | | | RE: I had same problem......sort of.... -- Tim Shride, 08/07/2005
Thanks for the input. I forgot to mention that I did have a HV oil pump installed, so oil restrictor mods could very well be the solution. I am using Mobile One 15W 50 as this is what the rebuild mechanic told me to use. I guess for now, I'll keep pouring oil in and try to drive it as much as possible. Too bad about the leaks, I was really hoping to see those go away :( |
| | | | | | Synthetic is the wrong break in oil -- Gordo, 08/08/2005
I just picked up my engine from the machine shop and quote the pamphlet of the Engine Rebuilders Association... http://www.aera.org/consumer/engbrkin.pdf
"The introduction of synthetic motor oils dates back to World War II and they are often described as the "oil of the future." Synthetic oils are man made, manufactured in a laboratory rather than pumped out of the ground and refined. They offer a variety of advantages over natural oils from better fuel economy, stability over a wide range of temperatures and operating conditions and longevity. However, the use of synthetic engine oils is not recommended for the "break-in" period. Its outstanding ability to reduce wear by virtually eliminating friction between moving components is not desirable for a "break-in" oil. Certain predictable amounts of friction are required for proper "break-in" of piston and piston rings. AERA does not recommend the use of synthetic engine oils for the first 5,000 miles of service. Thereafter it is up to the vehicle owner to weight the cost of more expensive synthetic motor oils, manufacturer's oil classification recommendations and drain intervals." |
| | | | | | | RE: Synthetic is the wrong break in oil -- John, 08/08/2005
Gordo is right about using mineral based oil for the break-in, although I'e heard some new cars come from the factory with synthetic. About 80% of the break-in is done in the first 20 minutes. The rest takes a long time. From what I'e heard a few hundred miles to 1000 is enough before switching to synthetic. Maybe longer for chromed rings. I switched after about 500 miles and everything still seems OK at 3000. Better safe than sorry though and switch to mineral for a while yet. |
| | What about leaking intake? -- Gordo, 08/07/2005
Won't the engine pull in oil if the intake gasket is not sealing properly? Might get lucky and find this is the problem instead of the rings. |
| | RE: smoking 390 -- raycfe, 08/08/2005
Switch from Synthetic....rings will never seat..and put in the restrictors in the heads. Use a 70-90 holleys jet will just drop in. The HV pump really pushs the oil around. If you check the oil level and then run the engine for abit, Shut it off and recheck the oil right away the old level will be lower and after it sits it will go back to normal. After the oil problem stops you can go back to synthetic. I use HV pumps also and it will flood the valves without the restrictors. |
| | | RE: smoking 390 -- Tim Shride, 08/08/2005
Yikes! The only reason I went with synthetic is because the rebuild mechanic told me to. This engine was actually rebuilt 2 years ago, and I seem to remember that the mechanic had me using a different oil initially, but am sure it was also synthetic; maybe just a different weight. Sorry to be so vague, but its been awhile. Is there any harm in switching oils now, after about 700 miles post rebuild? What weight would be recommended? Also, if this is in fact a break-in problem, is it reasonable for it only to be visibly affecting the drivers side? Either way, it sounds like I definately need the restrictors. Again, thanks in advance for the help. |
| | | RE: smoking 390 -- GREG F, 08/20/2005
Make sure the oil holes in rocker shafts are on the bottom and not the top this will fill the valve covers to the top ive seen this in our ford service dept back in 1970 |
| References -- Greg Westphall, 08/05/2005
Can anyone in this forum provide me some first-hand feedback regarding Gessford Machining? Any constructive feedback would be welcome. Thanks in advance, Greg |
| Holley carb surging -- specialk, 08/04/2005
What causes this and what would be the cure?? What size jets should I be running in my GT500? |
| | RE: Holley carb surging -- John, 08/04/2005
If the problem comes and goes, then probably a sticking float needle, or dirt in carb. Holley's usually come with jets that are OK.....1 or 2 sizes rich to be safe. |
| | Timing retarded -- Royce P, 08/05/2005
Surging when the throttle is held in one position indicates your timing is retarded.
Royce |
| | | RE: Timing retarded -- Dano, 08/05/2005
If it surges when cruising down the highway it may be running too lean of primary jets or you may have a vacuum leak. |
| | | | RE: Timing retarded -- walt, 08/05/2005
yep li found 3 vacuum leaks in one car,base plate,brake booster,advance dia,opps and a leaking trans modulator,crising speed then just seemed to lose power,then hit the pedal scouts right up and falters a few seconds later,i had to shoot that one with a vacuum gauge,the base plate was the hard one to find,sprayed windex around the base of te carb andthe idle changed,won't use gas in a sprayer,i had one light up on me because of a bad wire near the dist |
| | RE: Holley carb surging -- walt, 08/05/2005
i had may times with fuel line prob,rubber falling apart,or steel lined scalining internaly,the stuff passed thru and lodged in the metering block passages,and had to scrap a block or two.and i could never figure out how it passed thru the fuel screens?,and the bad one is on the cj.gt carb metal line feeding the rear float bowl it's after all the filters,and over advance,or points set wrong,specialy dauls also can do it,and idle mix adjustmentis a culprit too,before you go nuts ,check with a vacuum gauge,will help you a lot in trouble shooting,take a reading before you start anything then compare that reading as you progress |
| | I can tell you the OEM jet-sizes if you'll specify the carb. [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/06/2005
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