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Raven's watchful eye...
By kevin - 01/12/2002 7:43:29 AM; IP 209.240.222.131
OK, now that the date code is in, how about the jury! I did not want to say anything before, but that block has hydraulic lifters! This would mean it was cast two years before any known hydraulic 68 side oiler. I dont think employees really gave a damn about anything other than getting the hell out of work, same as most shops anywhere. Use whatever you have to, to get the order filled can be a logical point. I was appalled at what I saw in the shops and did not want to be a "shoppee" the rest of my life. This can only conclude in my mind (until I hear more) that for industrial use on low po, low rpm motors like these, Ford offered some stock hydraulic cammed, (no not the GT profile either) lug motors with nothing more than a more durable block casting to equipment manufacturers. I bet this block was bored over from its original 4.13 configuration as a 428 by a previous owner (again that is JMO) If you can tell us more on its history Mr. Gurley, please do. Ford would not use a forged piston in a 427 irrigation motor due to the forged piston needing the extra operating clearance and the fact that cast pistons have a longer life span as per the ring groove wear on forged is too great. I want to hear more on this as it is a variable can of worms. I do have a 428 block that a neighbor bought. It came in his new 66 motorhome. It is a date code of May 65 and is the earliest one I can think of. It has thick walls too. One thing, I have a digital camera now and will be able to post some pics for you all coming up.
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=10531&Reply=10512><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor10531" onclick="return false;">Uhhhh Ohhhhhh, time to bake some crow !    :-)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>01/08/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Uhhhh Ohhhhhh, time to bake some crow ! :-) -- P, 01/08/2002
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 Caw. Caw. Ha. Ha. -- kevin, 01/08/2002
 427 2-bolt mains -- Travis Miller, 01/08/2002
 427 Mustang is an urban legend... -- Dan Davis, 01/08/2002
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 It tastes like chicken.......... :-) ........n/m -- P, 01/08/2002
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 What about numbers on the block? -- Royce Peterson, 01/08/2002
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 I dont know Dave... -- kevin, 01/09/2002
 Date codes are pending. -- Dave Shoe, 01/09/2002
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 Good stuff Dave -- P, 01/09/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=10600&Reply=10512><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor10600" onclick="return false;">RE: Good stuff Dave</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Davy Gurley, <i>01/10/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: Good stuff Dave -- Davy Gurley, 01/10/2002
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 Crow -- P, 01/11/2002
 RE: Crow -- R Shannon, 01/11/2002
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 RE: Crow -- Davy Gurley, 01/11/2002
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 RE: Crow -- Bob, 01/11/2002
Collapse <b>Raven's watchful eye...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>kevin, <i>01/12/2002</i></font>Raven's watchful eye... -- kevin, 01/12/2002
 Question about your 428. -- Dave Shoe, 01/12/2002
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 Shoe, that motorhome block.... -- kevin, 01/12/2002
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 funny blocks and other odds and ends. -- hawkrod, 01/13/2002
 RE: funny blocks and other odds and ends. -- Davy Gurley, 01/13/2002
 Welcome, Tom - interesting info. Got any photos? [n/m] -- Mr F, 01/13/2002
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 And the close proximity of the water jackets. -- Dave Shoe, 01/08/2002
 Are what make this block the real deal. -- Dave Shoe, 01/08/2002
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