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RE: 152 mph stock!
By Mike McQuesten - 02/14/2002 6:17:13 PM; IP 206.193.0.122
That's true. I have the article. It was a 1960 Starliner 352/360 horse. Briefly, and I know that'd be amazing from blabber-typer me, Ford wanted their new HP offering to make a big splash with the automotive press. As stated, the 332/352 were much berated in their initial two years. So Ford invited writers, etc. to its proving grounds where they were able to prove a documented 152 mph on an oval test track in a bascially stock '60 Starliner. They claimed they were not going to release the package for sale until they could get 150 mph out of it.

Then, the legendary Ford Bonneville stock car racer, Texan Carroll Miller, drove his '60 Starliner to the flats, just as he had done with his Y block '56, and set a new record of 157 mph. And this was with a 352-4V, 300 horse hydraulic car!! With Air Conditioning and Power Steering. Seems, he was going to retire from the Bonneville thing and just enjoy his new car. But he couldn't do it. He acquired a set of new HP heads, new HP aluminum intake & a Lincoln Autolite 4100!! and the new HP dual point, and a set of the new HP header style exhaust manifolds. He did run an Iskenderian cam. Like I said, he drove it from Texas to Utah and blasted a new record exceeding 158 a couple of times to set the average at 157. This is before there was a 390!!

As for not being able to find listings of or about the 360 horse 352, you're very correct. It's a difficult engine to document. Very similar problems for the '61 HP 390 too. Both as a 375 single Holley 4V and for the 401 horse tri power. The fact is Ford did not have a unique designated engine code letter for the HP options in either year. There are new publications/sources (Greg Donahue, '63-'64 Ford guru) that have got it outright wrong! The 1960 High Performance 360 horse 352 got a Y code and that was it. The 1961 High Performance 390 got a Z code. The high performance option was noted in the Remarks/Notes section on the build sheets of these cars. They were initially coded as basic 300 horse hydraulic liftered 4V engines in both years. This has created a lot of confusion. Then they were built with all of the special equipment that made them a total performance package. Just like an R ode '63 car. Even my original 1960 Ford Shop Manual makes no mention of the 352/360 horse engine.

But my build sheet does and that's what counts to me!

And after that windy disertation I did on the benefits of Edelbrock, you'd think I had a major stock holding in Vic's corporation. I don't. I should but I keep investing in FE parts!



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 '60 HP 352 info for Nitro -- Mike McQuesten, 02/14/2002
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 RE: and the 352HP? -- Nitro, 02/14/2002
RE: 152 mph stock! -- Mike McQuesten, 02/14/2002
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 RE: Gotta love those old Fords! -- Mike McQuesten, 02/15/2002
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 RE: Gotta love those old Fords! -- Travis Miller, 02/15/2002
 RE: 352/250 horse SS/N? -- Mike McQuesten, 02/17/2002
 RE:All steel -- SDP, 02/17/2002
 Maybe you'll like this Mike.. -- Greg, 02/14/2002
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 RE: Great info -- SDP, 02/14/2002
 info -- Lou, 02/18/2002
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