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RE: Oil pan capacity-DON'T SKIMP!!--Suggestions
By RobMcQ - 04/23/2002 11:32:41 PM; IP 63.227.27.180
One thing I feel very strongly about, is a GOOD oil pan. It is cheap insurance when you consider what a momentary lapse in oil pressure can do the engine. I really discourage my customers from the stock pans, even with a windage tray and 6qts.

A while back, we were breaking in a 428 on the test stand. It had our full oil system blueprint and one of our specially modified and blueprinted oil pumps. The customer insisted on a stock pan for "restoration" appearance. Well, to break in the engine, we only put in 5qts of oil. At 1900rpm, the oil pressure began fluctuating and dropping off. We added the sixth qt and everything was fine. That means that there was less than a one qt safety margin-and that's on a stable test stand-no acceleration "slosh".

I would recommend a steel, 8qt "T"-sump pan for both high capacity and best ground clearance. These fit on all Ford front sump chasis. We use them extensively. Second choice is the deep front sump pan, like the factory C8AX pan. Moroso has one, but it is so deep, that you have to practically run air shocks in the front. The Milidon looks good, but has mediocre baffling, and the perforated hole design pick-up is very restrictive to oil flow. In back-to-back testing between the Milidon design, and a good hiperf screen design, the Milidon restricted oil flow as much as 40%.

As we didn't like either the Moroso or Milidon FE pans, and the factory deep sumps are few and far between, we started looking for an alternative. A little over a year ago, we set out to have a reproduction of the factory C8AX pan made. It didn't come out looking as close to the orig design as I wanted, but it is a very well designed front sump pan with very good oil control for hard acceleration and braking. It is 7.5" deep, and holds 7qts and has a large tube pick-up. You can e-mail for more info if you are interested on the pan.

The important point is to put some serious thought into the oiling system.
Rob
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RE: Oil pan capacity-DON'T SKIMP!!--Suggestions -- RobMcQ, 04/23/2002
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 RE: C8AX-C cam -- kevin, 04/18/2002
 RE: C8AX-C cam -- em, 04/18/2002
 RE: C8AX-C cam -- Kevin66, 04/19/2002
 RE: 428 build up -- Morgan, 04/19/2002
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