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You get a Big "F" for asking that.

By Dave Shoe - 04/05/2003 2:58:32 AM; IP 216.243.176.34

The rumors you've heard are correct. While early NASCAR engines did get the production C5AE-F heads, there was a later version which notibly outflowed the original MR casting, and could be identified because the "F" in the casting was twice as large as the "C5AE". It has been nicknamed the "Big F" head.

A google search using "Big F", "NASCAR", and "Ford" as the search criteria reveals that not a whole lotta folk know about this little oddity. Don't even bother looking, as you'll just learn a whole different meaning for the term "Big F..."

I'd post a photo of a Big F head, but it'd take me approximately a day to find it, as disorganized as I presently am. While I have no first-hand knowledge of the casting, I've heard LOTS of direct second-hand info on the head.

It's real.

Shoe.

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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16720&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16720" onclick="return false;">what does FE stand for?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Cory A, <i>04/02/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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what does FE stand for? -- Cory A, 04/02/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16724&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16724" onclick="return false;">could be as simple as "Ford Engine" =)</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hank, <i>04/02/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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could be as simple as "Ford Engine" =) -- Hank, 04/02/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16725&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16725" onclick="return false;">Wrong again Hank.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Royce Peterson, <i>04/02/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Wrong again Hank. -- Royce Peterson, 04/02/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16731&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16731" onclick="return false;">Wrong again Royce</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>John, <i>04/02/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Wrong again Royce -- John, 04/02/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16733&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16733" onclick="return false;">RE: Wrong again Royce</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Royce Peterson, <i>04/02/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Wrong again Royce -- Royce Peterson, 04/02/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16740&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16740" onclick="return false;">I'll be following up on this.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>04/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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I'll be following up on this. -- Dave Shoe, 04/03/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16748&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16748" onclick="return false;">except for a few diehards</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>04/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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except for a few diehards -- blinker, 04/03/2003

Collapse <b>You get a Big "F" for asking that.</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>04/05/2003</i></font>

You get a Big "F" for asking that. -- Dave Shoe, 04/05/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16863&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16863" onclick="return false;">RE: You get a Big "F" for asking that.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>04/10/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: You get a Big "F" for asking that. -- blinker, 04/10/2003

I don't know. -- Dave Shoe, 04/11/2003

RE: You get a Big "F" for asking that. -- John Saxon, 08/17/2003

It's the FE forum beach ball agian. -- James, 08/14/2003

Wow - Shoe's little fairy tale takes on a life of its own. ::LOL:: [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/03/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18090&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor18090" onclick="return false;">RE: FE "How's the old Iron Block?".</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Andy, <i>08/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: FE "How's the old Iron Block?". -- Andy, 08/12/2003

RE: FE "How's the old Iron Block?". -- harry, 08/19/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16738&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16738" onclick="return false;">RE: what does FE stand for?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Trent Hill, <i>04/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: what does FE stand for? -- Trent Hill, 04/03/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16750&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16750" onclick="return false;">Isn' t FE the symbol for iron ...hmmm</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>steve, <i>04/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Isn' t FE the symbol for iron ...hmmm -- steve, 04/03/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16756&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16756" onclick="return false;">No, it's not.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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No, it's not. -- Dave Shoe, 04/04/2003

RE: No, it's not. -- Bob, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16752&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16752" onclick="return false;">RE: what does FE stand for?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>jessie, <i>04/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: what does FE stand for? -- jessie, 04/03/2003

RE: what does FE stand for? -- Mr Douglas, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16759&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16759" onclick="return false;">Fairlane Engine was the small-block</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Fairlane Engine was the small-block -- Barry B, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16764&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16764" onclick="return false;">Thought the small block was the "Challenger"...N/M</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>John, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Thought the small block was the "Challenger"...N/M -- John, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16767&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16767" onclick="return false;">that was the name for the 260</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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that was the name for the 260 -- Barry B, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16771&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16771" onclick="return false;">Well...I tend to dissagree...maybe</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>John, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Well...I tend to dissagree...maybe -- John, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16775&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16775" onclick="return false;">Well, I'll agree with your disagreement...</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Well, I'll agree with your disagreement... -- Barry B, 04/04/2003

Yep...it's friendly.... -- John, 04/04/2003

Lots of smallblock Ford engines were called 'Challenger'... -- Mr F, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16770&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16770" onclick="return false;">That was the sales name of the engine.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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That was the sales name of the engine. -- Dave Shoe, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16778&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16778" onclick="return false;">As I've said before, it dates to well before 1970...</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>04/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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As I've said before, it dates to well before 1970... -- Mr F, 04/04/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16782&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16782" onclick="return false;">What does MEL stand for?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>James, <i>04/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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What does MEL stand for? -- James, 04/05/2003

RE: What does MEL stand for? -- Rollie H., 04/07/2003

The 260/289 got C3OE Fairlane part numbers. -- Dave Shoe, 04/05/2003

im looking for THE trent hill -- BRUNO, 03/06/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16788&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor16788" onclick="return false;">Or maby it's just 'Ford Engine' lol</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hank, <i>04/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Or maby it's just 'Ford Engine' lol -- Hank, 04/05/2003

Its the FE beach ball n/m -- James, 04/06/2003

Lets clear this one up now!! -- P, 04/10/2003

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RE: what does FE stand for? -- Ben Sahile, 04/17/2003

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RE: what does FE stand for? -- Zuke, 05/07/2003

RE: what does FE stand for? -- Geoff McNew, 08/13/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18130&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor18130" onclick="return false;">What does MEL stand for then?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>James, <i>08/14/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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What does MEL stand for then? -- James, 08/14/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19948&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor19948" onclick="return false;">Hey I thought MEL=Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln.n/m</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>David B., <i>01/30/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Hey I thought MEL=Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln.n/m -- David B., 01/30/2004

RE: Hey I thought MEL=Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln.n/m -- Tom, 03/02/2004

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RE: what does FE stand for? -- Brien, 08/14/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18135&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor18135" onclick="return false;">'59, '60 Squarebird n/m</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>08/14/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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'59, '60 Squarebird n/m -- Barry B, 08/14/2003

You are right, the Tbirds had the 430. N/M -- Brien, 08/15/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18146&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor18146" onclick="return false;">Jim Dove Responds</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Styletone58, <i>08/15/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Jim Dove Responds -- Styletone58, 08/15/2003

Not sure that's really him posting but I'd still disagree... -- Mr F, 08/18/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18158&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor18158" onclick="return false;">FORD Enchantment</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>KULTULZ, <i>08/17/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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FORD Enchantment -- KULTULZ, 08/17/2003

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Ps -- KULTULZ, 08/17/2003

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19949&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor19949" onclick="return false;">I thought it should stand for.....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>pop428, <i>01/30/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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I thought it should stand for..... -- pop428, 01/30/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19959&Reply=16720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor19959" onclick="return false;">::LOL:: Never thought of that one, Peter - very good. :-) [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>01/31/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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::LOL:: Never thought of that one, Peter - very good. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 01/31/2004

Then=? Now="F"utile "E"tymology...n/m -- dalorzo_f, 01/31/2004