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RE: Note about the 426
By P - 11/05/2003 7:21:29 AM; IP 216.80.153.176
One thing I believe, is the 426 hemi was a purpose designed motor to counter the success Ford was having with the new FE. Ford began major wins in the early 1960's and Chrysler needed something.

They came out with a racing prototype in '64 and it was a new design INTENDED to beat the FE, which was the only competition on the endurance tracks at the time. Had it not been for the FE, there would have been no hemi.

The FE, in turn, was developed to counter what Chevrolet had at the time, which was the 409. Boat anchor as it was, the 409 WAS the flagship motor of GM at the time, and we must recognize that Ford was using the GM flagship as a milestone to beat. Therefore the racing FE was designed to kill the next best motor of the day, which was the 409, and the hemi was designed to beat the next best motor of the day, which was the FE. In the end, Ford scrambled with development of the tunnelport, and the ole FE remained a racing workhorse and managed to beat the hemi during the 1966 and 1967 seasons, but the hemi clearly had the advantage those years. You won't however, find any hemi motors in sports racing cars like the Cobra or Shelby cars, as they were just too heavy to be used in that manner. Nobody would want a 200 or 250-pound disadvantage hanging out there on the chassis.

Long live the FE. It is a major milestone in American culture, and that's the main reason I like the series so much. Generally lightweight, used as a flagship motor to win in this country and abroad, and an overall great design.

P
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19022&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19022" onclick="return false;">Production numbers for the 427</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19022', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19022') }); </script>  Production numbers for the 427 -- P, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19024&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19024" onclick="return false;">a breakdown by type would be great</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19024', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19024') }); </script>  a breakdown by type would be great -- blinker, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19028&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19028" onclick="return false;">You are comparing apples and oranges</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19028', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19028') }); </script>  You are comparing apples and oranges -- Lou, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19033&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19033" onclick="return false;">RE: You are comparing apples and oranges</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19033', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19033') }); </script>  RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- hawkrod, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19035&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19035" onclick="return false;">RE: You are comparing apples and oranges</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19035', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19035') }); </script>  RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- blinker, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19036&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19036" onclick="return false;">RE: You are comparing apples and oranges</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19036', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19036') }); </script>  RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- hawkrod, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19038&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19038" onclick="return false;">RE:in defense of Lou</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19038', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19038') }); </script>  RE:in defense of Lou -- McQ, 11/04/2003
 The 409 boat anchor was a PLANK HEAD motor -- P, 11/04/2003
 RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19043&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19043" onclick="return false;">GM had great drivers, too: Dyno Don, Ron Sox, M. Durham, etc. [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19043', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19043') }); </script>  GM had great drivers, too: Dyno Don, Ron Sox, M. Durham, etc. [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19052&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19052" onclick="return false;">Dyno Don (Nicholson) was a Ford guy !</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19052', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19052') }); </script>  Dyno Don (Nicholson) was a Ford guy ! -- P, 11/04/2003
 RE: Dyno Don (Nicholson) was a Ford guy ! -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19059&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19059" onclick="return false;">He drove 409 A/FX Chevs, through 1963. [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19059', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19059') }); </script>  He drove 409 A/FX Chevs, through 1963. [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19065&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19065" onclick="return false;">Thaanx for the info, learn something every day!</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19065', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19065') }); </script>  Thaanx for the info, learn something every day! -- P, 11/05/2003
 Ford really wanted the '64 A/FX Comets to do well. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/05/2003
 AMC's S/S AMX faster than the T-BOLT? -- blinker, 11/07/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19042&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19042" onclick="return false;">Don't forget trans. availability (409, 4-speed) as a major factor. [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19042', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19042') }); </script>  Don't forget trans. availability (409, 4-speed) as a major factor. [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/04/2003
 RE: Don't forget trans. availability (409, 4-speed) as a major factor. [n/m] -- P, 11/04/2003
 Take a peek at the 409 NASCAR history -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19047&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19047" onclick="return false;">You may be right</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19047', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19047') }); </script>  You may be right -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19054&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19054" onclick="return false;">In my own defense:</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19054', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19054') }); </script>  In my own defense: -- Lou, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19055&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19055" onclick="return false;">Note about the 426 Hemis:</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19055', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19055') }); </script>  Note about the 426 Hemis: -- Lou, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19063&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19063" onclick="return false;">RE: Note about the 426</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19063', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19063') }); </script>  RE: Note about the 426 -- P, 11/05/2003
RE: Note about the 426 -- P, 11/05/2003
 You speak well in your own defense, Lou -- P, 11/05/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19070&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19070" onclick="return false;">RE: Production numbers for the 427</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Travis Miller, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19070', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19070') }); </script>  RE: Production numbers for the 427 -- Travis Miller, 11/05/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19071&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19071" onclick="return false;">if the SOHC hadn't been factored to death</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19071', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19071') }); </script>  if the SOHC hadn't been factored to death -- blinker, 11/05/2003
 what was happening on the track meant -- Lou, 11/05/2003
 Very interesting, thanks! -- P, 11/05/2003
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