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Shoe, I understand what you are saying

By Lou - 08/19/2004 7:52:18 PM; IP 4.245.170.131

but you are trying to put logic to a company that was didn't know what they were doing or who was doing what. From the late 60s to the early 70s Ford management was a joke, and came damn close to bankrupting them.
It is possable that the 427 were put in police cars because of shortages.
Chrysler had hurt Ford bad in thier Taxi business and was going after Fords' Police business. I know for a fact that Ford had told dealers to bid to get Police contracks and if they lost money that Ford would make it right.
The taxi and police wars between Ford and Chrysler are what legends are made of.

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FE vs. 427W -- McQ, 08/11/2004

'61 Starliner was a 375hp originally -- blinker, 08/11/2004

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check this one out -- blinker, 08/11/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22400&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22400" onclick="return false;">RE: check this one out</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>08/11/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: check this one out -- McQ, 08/11/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22405&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22405" onclick="return false;"> Ford did offer an engine upgrade..</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Don, <i>08/12/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Ford did offer an engine upgrade.. -- Don, 08/12/2004

RE: Ford did offer an engine upgrade.. -- Barry McLarty, 08/12/2004

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RE: Ford did offer an engine upgrade.. -- McQ, 08/12/2004

McQ was pretty close . . . -- Orin, 08/17/2004

RE: Fairlane Stainless Clips. -- mark, 05/04/2006

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22414&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22414" onclick="return false;">In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>08/12/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/12/2004

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RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy orderi -- McQ, 08/13/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22430&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22430" onclick="return false;">Just FYI: '67 427 option was ~$1300. And I was 12. ;-) [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>08/14/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Just FYI: '67 427 option was ~$1300. And I was 12. ;-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/14/2004

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Turning 50 this year? -- JohnRB, 04/25/2005

Yep - the big 5-0 has finally caught me. ::LOL:: [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

RE: Just FYI: '67 427 option was ~$1300. And I was 12. ;-) [n/m] -- walt, 04/27/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22431&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22431" onclick="return false;">MSRP of 427 was ~$1125 + 4-speed was priced sep. [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>08/14/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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MSRP of 427 was ~$1125 + 4-speed was priced sep. [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/14/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22432&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22432" onclick="return false;">RE:Thank you for showing me the errors in my way</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>08/14/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE:Thank you for showing me the errors in my way -- McQ, 08/14/2004

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RE:A few more facts on that "upgrade" -- McQ, 08/14/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22435&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22435" onclick="return false;">I have a 67 Armchair price guide</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>08/14/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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I have a 67 Armchair price guide -- Lou, 08/14/2004

I have original dealer pricing sheets. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/15/2004

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Police car option was 428, not 427. -- Royce, 08/15/2004

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I bought several of the -- Uberty's Auto Wrecking, 08/16/2004

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What model year were those cars? -- Dave Shoe, 08/17/2004

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RE: What model year were those cars? -- Uberty's Auto Wrecking, 08/17/2004

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Impossible. -- Royce P, 08/17/2004

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OK, If you say so !! -- Uberty's Auto wrecking, 08/18/2004

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RE: OK, If you say so !! -- Tony P., 08/18/2004

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RE: OK, If you say so !! -- Tony P., 08/18/2004

1967 Shelby's not germane. Ford admitted error... -- Mr F, 08/18/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22502&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22502" onclick="return false;">The Feds got into it in 1968.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>08/19/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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The Feds got into it in 1968. -- Dave Shoe, 08/19/2004

Shoe, I understand what you are saying -- Lou, 08/19/2004

RE: Impossible. -- ford429cjlover, 08/19/2004

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RE: Impossible. -- Ice Mike, 05/04/2005

RE: Impossible. -- McQ, 05/04/2005

Definitely some '67s or possibly all 1968 models? [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/18/2004

Just curious, but did they also have Thermactor? [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/17/2004

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RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy orderi -- bob, 01/06/2005

They had 'medium-rise' induction, as Gerry explained... -- Mr F, 01/06/2005

RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy orderi -- walt, 04/27/2005

RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m] -- walt, 04/24/2005

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RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m] -- walt, 04/27/2005

Really - Fords in those boats? Neat. :-) I had no idea. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/27/2005

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Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- Orin, 08/17/2004

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RE: Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- kyle thompson, 08/19/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22510&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22510" onclick="return false;">RE:I apologize!</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>08/19/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE:I apologize! -- McQ, 08/19/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22523&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22523" onclick="return false;">Me too..</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Don, <i>08/20/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Me too.. -- Don, 08/20/2004

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RE:427 ft.lbs.of torque -- McQ, 08/20/2004

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Speaking of fishtails, -- blinker, 05/11/2005

RE: Speaking of fishtails, -- McQ, 05/12/2005

RE:I apologize! -- walt, 05/04/2005

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RE: Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- walt, 04/24/2005

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Ford's production database shows no 427 Mustang built. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/24/2005

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RE: Ford's production database shows no 427 Mustang ... -- walt, 04/25/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24723&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24723" onclick="return false;">Sure - Ford *definitely* built & sold '68 Cougars w/ 427. [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>04/25/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Sure - Ford *definitely* built & sold '68 Cougars w/ 427. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

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RE: Sure - Ford *definitely* built & sold '68 Cougars w/ 427. [n/m] -- walt, 04/30/2005

Oh, sure - Ford maybe dealers installed a few 427s. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

...but those wouldn't be 'true' 427 cars (wrong VIN). [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

The big problem: adding a 427 voided the warranty. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

But that book only says the code exists...not actual cars. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

If Ford says they didn't build 'em, who am I to argue? :-D [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

RE: Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- walt, 04/27/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22572&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22572" onclick="return false;">who cares!n/m</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>bubba, <i>08/23/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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who cares!n/m -- bubba, 08/23/2004

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427 vs 428 -- Travis Miller, 08/24/2004

RE: 427 vs 428 -- walt, 04/17/2005

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RE: 427 vs 428 -- walt, 04/24/2005

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RE:this is hilarious! -- McQ, 04/27/2005

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How heavy? -- JohnRB, 04/28/2005

RE: How heavy? -- McQ, 04/28/2005

Though I'd just add this one . . . -- Orin, 04/28/2005

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RE: FE vs. 427W -- walt, 05/02/2005

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Yep - that's the stock air cleaner for M-series Thunderbirds... -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

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RE: Yep - that's the stock air cleaner for M-series Thunderbirds... -- walt, 05/04/2005

I think Ford sold 'em as replacements for the std. part. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/04/2005

So, you'd order a plain one but find a 'Bird in the box. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/04/2005

M-series (6v) set-up had a unique intake, with 'level' carbs. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005