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Look at the pictures in the link below

By Hawkrod - 05/10/2005 10:42:13 AM; IP 205.188.117.130

Geoff was kind enough to provide the link to David Kee Toploaders ID page (David Kee is one of if not the foremost toploader rebuilder and manufacturer (yes, he does make them too). The C4ZR is a small block and the C7OR is the big block. The C7OR is used on 28 and 31 spline big blocks but they are machined different for the larger shaft. Hawkrod

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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24493&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24493" onclick="return false;">small block and big block hurst shifters?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>04/09/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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small block and big block hurst shifters? -- BB67FB, 04/09/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24498&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24498" onclick="return false;">Big block setup is totlly different.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Royce, <i>04/10/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Big block setup is totlly different. -- Royce, 04/10/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24499&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24499" onclick="return false;">Royce is right and you are wrong....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/10/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Royce is right and you are wrong.... -- Hawkrod, 04/10/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24500&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24500" onclick="return false;">RE: Royce is right and you are wrong....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>04/10/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Royce is right and you are wrong.... -- BB67FB, 04/10/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24505&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24505" onclick="return false;">RE: Royce is right and you are wrong....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>04/10/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Royce is right and you are wrong.... -- giacamo, 04/10/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24517&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24517" onclick="return false;">and you would be wrong too!</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/11/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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and you would be wrong too! -- Hawkrod, 04/11/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24526&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24526" onclick="return false;">Hawkrod - casting #'s from my tailshaft-BIG BLOCK?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>04/11/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Hawkrod - casting #'s from my tailshaft-BIG BLOCK? -- BB67FB, 04/11/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24527&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24527" onclick="return false;">OOPS! here are the #'S</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>04/11/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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OOPS! here are the #'S -- BB67FB, 04/11/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24528&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24528" onclick="return false;">Yup, you still have a big block trans....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/11/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Yup, you still have a big block trans.... -- Hawkrod, 04/11/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24530&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24530" onclick="return false;">So, one more question</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>04/12/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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So, one more question -- BB67FB, 04/12/2005

Sloppy shifter bushings / out of adjustment -- Royce Peterson, 04/12/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24537&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24537" onclick="return false;">Could also be the interlock pin.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Gerry Proctor, <i>04/12/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Could also be the interlock pin. -- Gerry Proctor, 04/12/2005

RE: Could also be the interlock pin.- HOPE NOT!! -- BB67FB, 04/12/2005

David Kee Toploaders has the answer -- Geoff McNew, 05/03/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24549&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24549" onclick="return false;">RE: Royce is right and you are wrong....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>04/12/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Royce is right and you are wrong.... -- giacamo, 04/12/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24554&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24554" onclick="return false;">Huh?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/12/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Huh? -- Hawkrod, 04/12/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24556&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24556" onclick="return false;">RE: Huh?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>04/13/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Huh? -- BB67FB, 04/13/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24557&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24557" onclick="return false;">Yes, the C7OR was used on a big or small block</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/13/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Yes, the C7OR was used on a big or small block -- Hawkrod, 04/13/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24569&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24569" onclick="return false;">RE: Yes, the C7OR was used on a big or small block</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>04/13/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Yes, the C7OR was used on a big or small block -- giacamo, 04/13/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24573&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24573" onclick="return false;">Nope, they never came that way....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/13/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Nope, they never came that way.... -- Hawkrod, 04/13/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24799&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24799" onclick="return false;">RE: Nope, they never came that way....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>walt, <i>04/30/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Nope, they never came that way.... -- walt, 04/30/2005

No, you are very mistaken..... -- Hawkrod, 04/30/2005

RE: Yes, the C7OR was used on a big or small block -- walt, 04/30/2005

RE: Huh? -- mike, 05/03/2005

RE: Royce is right and you are wrong.... -- Andy T, 05/13/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24789&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24789" onclick="return false;">RE: small block and big block hurst shifters?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>walt, <i>04/30/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: small block and big block hurst shifters? -- walt, 04/30/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24792&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24792" onclick="return false;">You must not have much experience with stock ones</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/30/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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You must not have much experience with stock ones -- Hawkrod, 04/30/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24798&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24798" onclick="return false;">RE: You must not have much experience with stock ones</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>walt, <i>04/30/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: You must not have much experience with stock ones -- walt, 04/30/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24800&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24800" onclick="return false;">I am not sure what your point is....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/30/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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I am not sure what your point is.... -- Hawkrod, 04/30/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24804&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24804" onclick="return false;">RE: I am not sure what your point is....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>walt, <i>04/30/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: I am not sure what your point is.... -- walt, 04/30/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24805&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24805" onclick="return false;">sorry Walt, I don't believe you....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>04/30/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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sorry Walt, I don't believe you.... -- Hawkrod, 04/30/2005

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RE: sorry Walt, I don't believe you.... -- walt, 04/30/2005

RE: sorry Walt, I don't believe you.... -- walt, 05/10/2005

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RE: sorry Walt, I don't believe you.... -- walt, 05/02/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24828&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24828" onclick="return false;">uh yeah, sure....</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>05/02/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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uh yeah, sure.... -- Hawkrod, 05/02/2005

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RE: uh yeah, sure.... -- walt, 05/03/2005

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The Hawkrod knows his sh$t -- Geoff McNew, 05/03/2005

RE: The Hawkrod knows his sh$t -- walt, 05/03/2005

Of course, all the OEM adapters were non-integral. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

Besides, what's 'right' for racers is 'what works'. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

RE: You must not have much experience with stock ones -- walt, 05/02/2005

Well, sure - I mean, that's the hallmark of true racers. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

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RE: You must not have much experience with stock ones -- walt, 05/10/2005

Look at the pictures in the link below -- Hawkrod, 05/10/2005

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Tailhousing ID Chart & Pics -- Geoff McNew, 05/03/2005

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RE: Tailhousing ID Chart & Pics -- walt, 05/12/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24939&Reply=24493><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24939" onclick="return false;">Yes, they do have the same numbers for some apps..</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>05/13/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Yes, they do have the same numbers for some apps.. -- Hawkrod, 05/13/2005

RE: Yes, they do have the same numbers for some apps.. -- walt, 05/13/2005