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Where Royce may be coming from.
By Gerry Proctor - 10/13/2005 8:23:16 AM; IP 207.133.188.254
Yes, Royce can be sarcastic. So am I. It’s just my personality. There’s no malevolence intended in it but you’d have to know the person better to know where they’re coming from. We’re used to the slings and arrows that come with that side of our personality. If you were more familiar with Royce, you wouldn’t arrive at that snap judgment.

To the contentious issue itself…It can be perceived two ways: 1) The person has not bothered to research the information and just wants to be spoon-fed without investing any time to satiate their interest, or; 2) That their time is more valuable than the resource’s so they don’t need to bother with looking it up.

I doubt that either is really true in this particular case due to the obscurity of the question asked, but a lot of questions get asked on this and other forums that are widely available. For instance, how frequently does the question on C8AE-H heads or initial timing get asked? Maybe a couple or three times a month? So when I see it, I know immediately that the person didn’t even take the time to use the forum’s search engine. I too know that they didn’t invest their time by Googling anything. They didn’t invest anything, so why should I? I just don’t bother with answering questions that have been beaten to death. Mr. F. just posts a bunch of links to search results. There is a subtle lesson to the poster in this method that maybe they ought to take a more active approach, rather than wanting to be spoon-fed. Sometimes is painfully obvious, like when someone asks for a link to Summit’s or Crane Cam’s website. Again, not necessarily the case in this post but I know that if I was willing to invest some time, I could Google it and use time-honored research methods to find the answers. A lot of people never bother to even start. I take more interest in a topic where it's obvious that the person at least tried, whether they were successful to my expectations or not.

But, overall, there is really a shortfall in etiquette anymore. A reflection on society and individual ambitions, an unintended consequence of “gotta have it now” Internet lifestyle? Who knows.
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 RE: 427 Tunnelport -- john p, 10/12/2005
Collapse <b>Where Royce may be coming from.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gerry Proctor, <i>10/13/2005</i></font>Where Royce may be coming from. -- Gerry Proctor, 10/13/2005
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 RE: Where Royce may be coming from. -- phil, 10/13/2005
 Sorry, Phil. -- Gerry Proctor, 10/13/2005
 Hey Phil -- Royce P, 10/13/2005
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 RE: 427 Tunnelport -- phil, 10/12/2005
 RE: 427 Tunnelport -- john p, 10/12/2005
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 Other stuff -- Royce P, 10/12/2005
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 RE: Other stuff -- john p, 10/12/2005
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 RE: Other stuff -- phil, 10/12/2005
 RE: Other stuff -- john p, 10/12/2005
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25967&Reply=25948><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor25967" onclick="return false;">Gee - this thread has gone well, hasn't it?  ;-)  ::LOL::  [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>10/13/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Gee - this thread has gone well, hasn't it? ;-) ::LOL:: [n/m] -- Mr F, 10/13/2005
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 RE: Gee - this thread has gone well, hasn't it? ;-) ::LOL:: [n/m] -- phil, 10/13/2005
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=25974&Reply=25948><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor25974" onclick="return false;">Danged, and it wasn't even me! N/M</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Hawkrod, <i>10/13/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Danged, and it wasn't even me! N/M -- Hawkrod, 10/13/2005
 Hey, no one's more surprised than me. ;-D [n/m] -- Mr F, 10/17/2005
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