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RE: Found this by using our "Search" feature....
By Dave Shoe - 01/30/2001 12:46:47 AM; IP 216.243.158.122
C8AE-H came in every FE car or FE truck engine from 1968 to 1971, the only exception being 427 and Cobra Jet motors. There was no difference in the head casting whether you had a 360-2v or '68-'70 428 PI.

It's actually a really strong performance head up to about 400HP, and especially in the smaller (360/390) FE motors - provided you match up to the right intake and headers. The new "emissions" runners, mandated since 1966 were smaller than the '65-earlier heads, but they look a whole lot smoother flowing in the pocket area.

The 14-hole pattern indicates it came from a Fairlane/Mustang car, not that it's from a 390GT engined car. The same head and bolt pattern was used in 390-2V Fairlanes and 390P-2V (premium fuel) Mustangs. The 390GT did get different valve springs, but that's about it. also, there was no 390GT motor in 1969, so it may have come from a 1969 GT-optioned car, but it would then have the plain FE springs. Sorta confusing, but really sorta simple, too.

The C8AE-H head would be drilled at the factory for either the 8-bolt or 14 bolt pattern. The 8-bolt version (Galaxie/pickup truck) can also be drilled for the 16-bolt CJ pattern if you wish (drill no deeper than the factory holes), though the "-H" exhaust ports sit 5/16" lower on the head than an actual CJ head, making CJ-compatible headers incompatible.

Headmans will flat not port match to those heads, whether 8 or 14 bolt, and the probability that the header gaskets will leak is very high due to improper gasket crush along the bottom.

I agree with Mr.F that there are other good hints in the archives. Search out "C6AE-R", C7AE-A" and "C8AE-H" heads and you may find some other tips: some bad, some good.

JMO,
Shoe.
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