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"Ford Edsel" sounds right to me.
By Dave Shoe - 02/19/2001 1:06:43 AM; IP 216.243.158.169
The "FE" term seems to have first shown up in published Ford literature in 1970, a year which coincides with the birth of the 351 Cleveland engine family.

I suspect Ford marketing was dealing with a confused public, as up to this point no one seems to have identified clear-cut names for any of the engine families, having settled on things like "Small-6", "Big-6", "Small V-8", "Ford-Mercury Big V8", "Mercury-Lincoln Big V8", and Ford-Mercury-Lincoln Big V8" to differentiate the families.

The addition of the Cleveland family seems to have created interest inside Ford marketing to reorganize engine identification using technically founded and easy-to-describe "family" designations.

In Ford's 1970 performance parts catalog Muscle Parts Story Supplement #1, which was the follow up to the 1969 Muscle Parts catalog (with the psychedellic bumpersticker), they introduced to the public the formal designations for all of their recent engine families. On page 4 they tell a story of the family tree, page 5 lists, possibly released to the public for the first time ever, the MEL, the FE, the 335, the 385, etc., families.

At no time do they explain what any of the names mean, however they do get clever on page 29 and state: ' "FE" is more than just the chemical symbol for iron...it symbolizes the best in Detroit iron.' Apparently, this snappy slogan has caused some folk to believe Ford intended that "FE" means "iron". Sorry, having fun with words isn't enough to get me to believe this was the intended meaning of the acronym.

A few other folk believe that FE means "Ford Engine", but in this same catalog it frequently states "FE engine", suggesting the writers were repeatedly saying "Ford Engine Engine". Some "Ford Engine" believers claim it is correct because FT means Ford Truck and therefore FE must mean Ford Engine. These people need to buy a clue, because if this was the case it would be known as the FC, or Ford Car engine.

"Ford Edsel" is the only logical meaning. Since the acronym seems to have been publically introduced in 1970, and the catalog's text claims "an engine family is a group of engines which has evolved from one basic design", this suggests the name comes from the root origins of the motor. Since both the MEL and the FE were born in 1958, it's logical that the designation of these two acronyms might have similar roots. MEL clearly stands for Mercury Edsel Lincoln, and FE for Ford Edsel, both acronyms representing the only vehicles they were found in back in their first year of 1958.

If anyone knows the meaning of 335 or 385, I'd like to hear it. I suspect it was the project names used for the two families during engine development, but I just don't know.

Shoe.

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 RE: "Ford Edsel" sounds right to me. -- mike b, 02/19/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=5009&Reply=4962><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor5009" onclick="return false;">This might be a "chicken or egg" kinda thing.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>02/20/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 This might be a "chicken or egg" kinda thing. -- Dave Shoe, 02/20/2001
 RE: This might be a "chicken or egg" kinda thing. -- Travis Miller, 02/20/2001
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 RE: "Ford Edsel" sounds right to me. -- Mr F, 02/19/2001
 RE: "Ford Edsel" sounds right to me. -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
 428 block -- Mike Crater, 03/09/2004
 Two Car Divisions...Two Engine Families -- KULTULZ, 11/02/2002
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 Who makes that manual? -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
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 RE: Who makes that manual? -- brad, 02/19/2001
 RE: Who makes that manual? -- brad, 02/19/2001
 RE: Who makes that manual? -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
 Full of holes? That book is sinking! -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=4997&Reply=4962><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor4997" onclick="return false;">RE: Just Wondering?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Tom, <i>02/19/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: Just Wondering? -- Tom, 02/19/2001
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 RE: Just Wondering? -- brad, 02/19/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=5001&Reply=4962><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor5001" onclick="return false;">The Book</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ed Foral, <i>02/19/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 The Book -- Ed Foral, 02/19/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=5008&Reply=4962><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor5008" onclick="return false;">Still, I'd like to hear about it.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>02/20/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Still, I'd like to hear about it. -- Dave Shoe, 02/20/2001
  Still, I'd like to hear about it. -- Ed Foral, 02/20/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=5017&Reply=4962><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor5017" onclick="return false;">Too complicated . . .</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Orin, <i>02/20/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Too complicated . . . -- Orin, 02/20/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=15098&Reply=4962><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor15098" onclick="return false;">So take me one step backwards guys. . .</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>John Zeigler, <i>11/02/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 So take me one step backwards guys. . . -- John Zeigler, 11/02/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=15099&Reply=4962><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor15099" onclick="return false;">That cast '428' is a positive ID. Dave has it right, here...</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/02/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 That cast '428' is a positive ID. Dave has it right, here... -- Mr F, 11/02/2002
 RE: That cast '428' is a positive ID. Dave has it right, here... -- Dave, 11/03/2002
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