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RE: "Ford Edsel" sounds right to me.
By Mr F - 02/19/2001 4:25:40 PM; IP 24.180.222.87
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The addition of the Cleveland family seems to have created interest inside Ford marketing to reorganize the engine structure around "family" designations.

Grouping engines by their applications started long before then, Dave.....as early as 1962, that I know of.

In Ford's 1970 performance parts catalog Muscle Parts Story Supplement #1, which was the follow up to the 1969 catalog, they have family designations for all of their recent engine families. On page 4 they tell a story of the family tree, page 5 lists, apparently for the first time ever, the MEL, the FE, the 335, the 385, etc., families.

No - 'MEL' and 'FE' were in use, long before '68.

Of course, we're talking about the vast difference between terms used in the company's promotional materials and those reserved for in-house correspondence. If you will, the two acronyms in question are merely the tip of a jargonistic iceberg. I'm willing to bet most folks have never seen reference to the EGB- or the EEZ- engines, either, but that doesn't mean that usage of those terms wasn't well-established in certain circles.

Oh - and please forgive me, but I've no time to dig up and post my evidence. I therefore expect some (understandable) grousing. Mea culpa, folks. ;-)

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If anyone knows the meaning of 335 or 385, I'd like to hear it. I suspect it was the project names used for the two families during engine development, but I just don't know.

Those numbers refer to the displacement of a precedent engine concept, within each family. In other words, those series began with designs for a 335CID engine and a 385CID engine...or, so I'm told.

Mr F

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 RE: "Ford Edsel" sounds right to me. -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
 428 block -- Mike Crater, 03/09/2004
 Two Car Divisions...Two Engine Families -- KULTULZ, 11/02/2002
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 RE: Who makes that manual? -- brad, 02/19/2001
 RE: Who makes that manual? -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
 Full of holes? That book is sinking! -- Dave Shoe, 02/19/2001
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 RE: Just Wondering? -- brad, 02/19/2001
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  Still, I'd like to hear about it. -- Ed Foral, 02/20/2001
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 That cast '428' is a positive ID. Dave has it right, here... -- Mr F, 11/02/2002
 RE: That cast '428' is a positive ID. Dave has it right, here... -- Dave, 11/03/2002
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