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RE: Hemi? Better? Only in the minds of MoPar fans
By P - 11/30/2001 9:45:25 AM; IP 66.89.75.42
RJP, great exchange of info here!!

I didn't really overlook the p-pine, just didn't take the time to write a larger epistle.

As is became more and more evident that the 348 block (409 final size) was not going to do the job for Chevrolet, they were desperate to find SOMETHING to use on the track. Smoky Yunick was a cheater par excellance, and may have done a "nice" job for Pontiac, but probably no better cheater than Junior Johnson and many others.

GM built a small series of "427" engines on the 409 block, mainly by stroking the crank, as the bores were already maxed out. As you know, they called it the "Mystery Motor", and you're right, it did have power, but blew it's guts every time it tried to run with the FE, ha ha. This was the early prototype "porcupine" as I understand it, but even if it did have promise, it had no more business being in a "stock car" race than the racing prototype hemi of 1964, or even the CAMMER.

GM didn't get the motor into production until what, 1966, in 427 form, after introducing it as the 396. Chrysler as well, didn't get their hemi into production, with enough cars to comply with being "stock" until 1966. By then, Ford had already wiped the tracks clean. Those 1964 hemi wins were as big a "cheat" as the Pontiac info you shared with us.

Ahhhh, THOSE WERE THE DAYS!! And because of those days, I revere the FE design as being not only historic, but one heck of a weapon for street, strip, or track.

When I'm running my pair at 4000 RPM I may as well be Walter Mitty, ha ha.

All the best, P
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 RE: Let's put the hemi in it's proper perspective here -- P, 11/29/2001
 RE: Let's put the hemi in it's proper perspective here -- mike smith, 11/29/2001
 RE: Good info -- RJP, 11/29/2001
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 RE: Hemi? Better than what? -- RJP, 11/29/2001
RE: Hemi? Better? Only in the minds of MoPar fans -- P, 11/30/2001
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 RE: chevy type power? -- P, 11/30/2001
 Hemi -- Rob, 12/04/2001
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