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Ok - here's the answer...
By Mr F - 01/01/2002 11:54:52 PM; IP 24.180.222.87

I vote for 5K each. [....] the contract volume for 1966 was apparently 250 engines so set-up fees would be less significant, and the design and tooling already paid for.

The stated cost I found was $4300. Thus, the oft-reported sales price of $2K - 3K per unit was probably a loss-leader.

Due diligence: this figure comes from a Special Vehicle Activities' report. It was formally presented to Ford Division's Operating Policy Committee on July 13, 1965 - likely by the head of SVA, himself, Jacques Passino. The report lays out all their proposed expenditures for the 1966 model year.

I'm betting most of you aren't familiar with SVA. Basically, they were responsible for handling Ford's race-related programs. This means they had their fingers in lots of pies: from engine development to race-team support to parts procurement. SVA wrote the checks for building all those Boss 429s, oversaw the Shelby program...they even bankrolled the whole GT-40 effort.

So, you can see they were in a perfect position to know exactly how much a 'cammer' cost. I have no reason to doubt its accuracy. But its important to note that the $4300 figure (as Shoe mentioned) probably does not reflect amortized expenditures for tooling, R&D, etc. If it did, undoubtedly it would be several times higher.

Hope this helps.

Mr F

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 No Ed..Dragonsnake was a 289 -- kevin, 12/31/2001
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 RE: You guys want to guess Ford's 1966 cost per SOHC? [n/m] -- Mac, 12/30/2001
 Nice try, Mac - too low. [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/30/2001
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 RE: You guys want to guess Ford's 1966 cost per SOHC? [n/m] -- Dave Shoe, 12/30/2001
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 RE: You guys want to guess Ford's 1966 cost per SOHC? [n/m] -- Bill MAlone, 12/30/2001
 That was Ford's 'clearance' price, retail - not their cost. [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/30/2001
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 Yep, Dave - you're in the ballpark. Take a swing. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/30/2001
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 RE: Yep, Dave - you're in the ballpark. Take a swing. :-) [n/m] -- Bill Conley, 12/31/2001
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 It's gotta be 5K. -- Dave Shoe, 12/31/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=10332&Reply=10249><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor10332" onclick="return false;">I bought one in 1966</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ted, <i>12/31/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 I bought one in 1966 -- Ted, 12/31/2001
 Also -- Ted, 01/01/2002
 I think you swung low. I heard $15K-$20K each. -- Walker, 01/01/2002
Ok - here's the answer... -- Mr F, 01/01/2002
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 RE: You guys want to guess Ford's 1966 cost per SOHC? [n/m] -- Eyes, 01/04/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=10522&Reply=10249><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor10522" onclick="return false;">If I had the bread, that woulda been mine.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>01/08/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 If I had the bread, that woulda been mine. -- Dave Shoe, 01/08/2002
 RE: If I had the bread, that woulda been mine. -- Eyes, 01/08/2002
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