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RE:early '52/'32 solid engines
By Mike McQuesten - 03/21/2002 6:18:50 PM; IP 206.193.0.120
Here's what I know for sure about the early '58 Ford Edsel 332/352 that had the machined combustion chambers: They did have solid lifter cams with Ford "Shot-Gun" style shell lifters and the corresponding skinny ball & cup push rods and the adjustable B8A 1.76 rockers. I have one of these engines sitting in its original location, a '58 Country Sedan wagon. An "Interceptor" V-8(this one's a 352).

Now I'll do some speculating based on information I think I used to know for sure.....so JMO:

The '64 Ford Shell lifters were part of the high rev package that was offered over the counter with the C4AE-B cam(the 320 duration/500 lift shaft). They were shell lifters but of somewhat different design than the early '58 shells. Thus a new part #. As for the pushrods.....that amazes me that they would continue to use that '58 pushrod. The '58 pushrod is not a high performance item, it's very skinny and these early ones have a tendency to easily bend. As a matter of fact I found #5 intake p-rod in a nice long -S- configuration upon initial tear down of the C-sedan's 352. I think that may be why this '58 hasn't been under it's own power since 1967. Someone else may have more info on the B8AZ pushrod you've mentioned.

You mention the, " 'shell lifter', not much different from what Crane Cams still tries to sell you with an FE mechanical cam". Do you think running the shell lifters is a bad thing? My opinion is that they are a good item. But only if used with the later style 3/8" hardened correct length pushrod. After advice from a few FE builders, I've decided to run the shells, mine are Crower but I have a hunch they all are made by a single source, with their pushrods. These will be riding a Comp 282S cam.

An interesting FE solid lifter that Royce has mentioned and I think he indicated he is running in one of his 427's is the Iskenderian style. At first blush you might think they look like hydraulics but upon a closer look you realize they're a unique solid design with a snap in plug that allows you to run the standard length cup & ball pushrod. I think Royce has indicated that these Isky lifters offer more strength yet are lighter than the Ford style dumbell solid. I picked up a set of these off of eBay a couple of months ago because......oh that's right, we don't have to explain why we buy parts like this here.
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 RE:early '52/'32 solid engines -- Bob, 03/21/2002
 Info from the grey matter zone.... -- kevin, 03/22/2002
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 RE:'Shell' vs. 'Dumbbell -- Derek, 03/25/2002
 RE:Dazed & Confused -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
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