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RE:here you go...
By Mike McQuesten - 03/25/2002 6:42:35 PM; IP 67.227.207.164
The installed intake is a '61 HP 390/375 horse intake with a casting date of: 0L30, 11/30/60. Fairly early '61 HP production. Note the angled carb base.

The intake on top of the installed intake is a '60 HP 352/360 horse with a casting date of 0E24, 5/24/60. Fairly late '60 HP production.

In the third pic I'm trying to indicate the subtle difference in the intake runner size. I'm not sure this will show clearly enough. I've placed the pencils in such a way as to indicate that on the '61 intake there is a little higher casting ridge of that particular runner. This is true for all of them. Although it's slight but visable. Remember Ford did say that the '61 had 10% increased flow over the '60.

Now for that carb base. Kevin has indicated that he thinks there was a difference in the engine angle between the '60 & '61. He has also indicated that there may be a difference in the rear leaf spring mounting locations between the two years thus changing engine angles. Kevin, I've got 'em both. And I've layed 'em out. I've measured. I've looked and measured some more. I can't see it or find it. I put two leaf springs side by side, one from my '60 & one from a '61 & '62 Galaxie. No differences.

Interesting to note that when that '60 intake was setting on the engine all mounted in the '60 Sunliner with the transmission fully installed, the little level indicated a half a bubble off. With the '61 angled intake setting in the same exact spot.....the bubble was right on even.

I believe lots of things, most of which probably don't amount to anything, but I do believe fairly strongly that the Ford HP team engineers found that there was some fuel starvation occuring in some situations with the '60 intake. A little angle up here and a little larger runner there and there you go....10% increase in flow! Maybe I should say it's my theory. I'm not ready to believe it yet.

Now to see if I can attach these pics...

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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12188&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12188" onclick="return false;">Intakes</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Richard, <i>03/23/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12188', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12188') }); </script>  Intakes -- Richard, 03/23/2002
 Could you help Mr. Shoe -- Richard, 03/24/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12223&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12223" onclick="return false;">'IC3' =date code. Likely a 390/406 factory intake.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12223', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12223') }); </script>  'IC3' =date code. Likely a 390/406 factory intake. -- Mr F, 03/25/2002
 Thanks mr. F. -- Richard, 03/25/2002
 Re: 3/3/61=390hp -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12231&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12231" onclick="return false;">Re: 1c3</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12231', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12231') }); </script>  Re: 1c3 -- Barry B, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12233&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12233" onclick="return false;">RE: Re: 1c3</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12233', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12233') }); </script>  RE: Re: 1c3 -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
Collapse <b>RE:here you go...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/25/2002</i></font>RE:here you go... -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12235&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12235" onclick="return false;">RE:not smart enough..</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12235', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12235') }); </script>  RE:not smart enough.. -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12236&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12236" onclick="return false;">RE: and finally...</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12236', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12236') }); </script>  RE: and finally... -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12241&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12241" onclick="return false;">RE: and finally...</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>salid, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12241', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12241') }); </script>  RE: and finally... -- salid, 03/25/2002
 RE: thanks Greg -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
 RE:not smart enough.. -- tbolt, 03/26/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12237&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12237" onclick="return false;">Nice pics.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12237', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12237') }); </script>  Nice pics. -- Dave Shoe, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12239&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12239" onclick="return false;">RE: Thanks Mike</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12239', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12239') }); </script>  RE: Thanks Mike -- Barry B, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12243&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12243" onclick="return false;">HP air cleaner</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12243', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12243') }); </script>  HP air cleaner -- hawkrod, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12248&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12248" onclick="return false;">RE: HP air cleaner</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12248', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12248') }); </script>  RE: HP air cleaner -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12258&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12258" onclick="return false;">RE: HP air cleaner</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>03/26/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12258', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12258') }); </script>  RE: HP air cleaner -- Barry B, 03/26/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12260&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12260" onclick="return false;">RE: HP air cleaner in Hot Rod</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>03/26/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12260', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12260') }); </script>  RE: HP air cleaner in Hot Rod -- Barry B, 03/26/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12269&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12269" onclick="return false;">RE:Vacuum Advance?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/26/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12269', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12269') }); </script>  RE:Vacuum Advance? -- Mike McQuesten, 03/26/2002
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12281&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12281" onclick="return false;">RE:Vacuum Advance?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/27/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12281', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12281') }); </script>  RE:Vacuum Advance? -- Mike McQuesten, 03/27/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12289&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12289" onclick="return false;">RE:Vacuum Advance?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>03/27/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12289', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12289') }); </script>  RE:Vacuum Advance? -- Barry B, 03/27/2002
 RE:Knott's dizzy -- Barry B, 03/27/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12318&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12318" onclick="return false;">RE:Vacuum Advance?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Bob H., <i>03/28/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12318', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12318') }); </script>  RE:Vacuum Advance? -- Bob H., 03/28/2002
 First used on 69/70 Boss and 70 428CJ, then 351Cs. [n/m] -- Mr F, 03/28/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12310&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12310" onclick="return false;">RE:Vacuum Advance?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Derek, <i>03/28/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12310', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12310') }); </script>  RE:Vacuum Advance? -- Derek, 03/28/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12312&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12312" onclick="return false;">RE:Police not HP.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/28/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12312', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12312') }); </script>  RE:Police not HP. -- Mike McQuesten, 03/28/2002
 I agree. Never seen real Ford artwork of 352HP. [n/m] -- Mr F, 03/28/2002
 RE:Police not HP. -- Derek66, 03/29/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12254&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12254" onclick="return false;">You mean this air cleaner?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>03/26/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12254', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12254') }); </script>  You mean this air cleaner? -- Mr F, 03/26/2002
 yea, that would be the one -- hawkrod, 03/26/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12245&Reply=12188><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12245" onclick="return false;">RE: You bet!</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>03/25/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12245', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12245') }); </script>  RE: You bet! -- Mike McQuesten, 03/25/2002
 RE: You bet! -- Richard, 03/26/2002
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