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RE: 60 hipo bird
By Mike McQ - 02/10/2003 12:14:55 PM; IP 206.193.53.51
A 1960 Thunderbird with a 352HP-360 horsepower, stick and overdrive is very rare. I personally have never seen one. I'm unable to find anything in my limited old Ford materials that would indicate that such an option was available for the '60 T-bird. Please understand though that I'm not saying that such an option wasn't available. I would really like to see/read some documentation that the 360 horse thumper was available to 'bird buyers.

So what we need is information such as the VIN of your 'bird. The '60 and '61 HP options did not receive unique VIN engine codes. For 1960 the letter Y 5th digit in would indicate a possible HP. For 1961 the letter was Z. This is confusing because the Y for '60 indicated standard 300 horse 352 or 360 horse. The Z indicated 300 horse 390 for '61 or it the car could have been a 375 single Holley 4V or a 401 horse triple Holley car. Any other materials that indicate a letter other than Y for '60 or Z for '61 are just plain wrong.

Now for that 360 horse engine, does it have HP specific items, i.e., aluminum intake, Holley carb, dual point distributor, solid lifer cam/lifters, a 3/8" fuel line, larger 3" front brake drums, unique style/larger harmonic dampner? These are a few of the important obvious details that made a 352 a hipo.

And of course you know that those HP exhaust manifolds would never have fit in your '60 bird stock. So the HP 352 you have came with the box style non hipo manifolds? Is your 'bird equipped with the hard to replace/duplicate full 3/8" fuel line?

Again, I'm not saying your car wasn't built in some special way at the factory with a 360 horse plant. Or that someone years ago didn't transplant the engine from a '60 full size. I know the stick/OD was available for the last time in '60. So making an engine switch wouldn't be difficult minus the HP exhaust manifolds.

Your basic question is what's the value? It's tough to say but if you can provide us/me with more details on what you have on that B9A block(and being a B9A block does lend credibility to your claim that the engine is a hipo) I'll give you my best guess.
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 60 hipo bird -- Lou, 02/09/2003
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 RE: Isn't that Special... -- McQ, 02/10/2003
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16246&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16246" onclick="return false;">the HIPO info is correct but 60 was the last year</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>02/11/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 the HIPO info is correct but 60 was the last year -- hawkrod, 02/11/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16247&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16247" onclick="return false;">RE:worth?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQ, <i>02/11/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE:worth? -- Mike McQ, 02/11/2003
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 Hawkrod -- Lou, 02/11/2003
 i didn't say they didn't exist..... -- hawkrod, 02/12/2003
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 Mike -- Lou, 02/11/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16257&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16257" onclick="return false;">How about more info on the Falcon, Lou? [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 How about more info on the Falcon, Lou? [n/m] -- Mr F, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16259&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16259" onclick="return false;">63 HiPo Falcon</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 63 HiPo Falcon -- Lou, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16263&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16263" onclick="return false;">you're teasing me Lou...</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 you're teasing me Lou... -- Barry B, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16269&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16269" onclick="return false;">Barry, no on both counts.(n/m)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Barry, no on both counts.(n/m) -- Lou, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16286&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16286" onclick="return false;">OK, now that that's out of the way,</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/15/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 OK, now that that's out of the way, -- Lou, 02/15/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16307&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16307" onclick="return false;">RE: OK, now that that's out of the way,</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: OK, now that that's out of the way, -- McQ, 02/18/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16314&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16314" onclick="return false;">I've talked to them already</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 I've talked to them already -- Lou, 02/18/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16318&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16318" onclick="return false;">RE: Alright now</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQ, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: Alright now -- Mike McQ, 02/18/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16319&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16319" onclick="return false;">RE: the HP dampner</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQ, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: the HP dampner -- Mike McQ, 02/18/2003
 RE: HP Damper plus... -- McQ, 02/18/2003
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