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i didn't say they didn't exist.....
By hawkrod - 02/12/2003 9:59:52 AM; IP 198.81.21.173
i said ford did not build them for production. some dealers are documented to have converted cars and there may heve been some preproduction mules but you could not go to the dealer and factory order them. i have a partial set of instructions for converting cars and how to assemble the parts written by a ford mechanic who did a half a dozen or more between 61-63. he told me most were overdrive conversions but some were 4 speeds. this one is easy to prove using a 1961 edition of the parts book as it was printed before production began in mid 60. the parts books are printed in advance so they usually contain parts listings for stuff that is not available (the 71 copy shows all the parts for a 71 boss 302 mustang which was never made). the lack of clutch linkage and hardware in the 61 parts book is a pretty good indication of fords intent because even if they were planning on stick shift and then didn't do it the parts would have been in the book. hawkrod
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 60 hipo bird -- Lou, 02/09/2003
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 RE: 60 hipo bird -- Mike McQ, 02/10/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16231&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16231" onclick="return false;">Along the same line</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Greg, <i>02/10/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Along the same line -- Greg, 02/10/2003
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 RE: Isn't that Special... -- McQ, 02/10/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16245&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16245" onclick="return false;">This May interest you.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/11/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 This May interest you. -- Lou, 02/11/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16246&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16246" onclick="return false;">the HIPO info is correct but 60 was the last year</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>02/11/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 the HIPO info is correct but 60 was the last year -- hawkrod, 02/11/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16247&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16247" onclick="return false;">RE:worth?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQ, <i>02/11/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE:worth? -- Mike McQ, 02/11/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16252&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16252" onclick="return false;">Hawkrod</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/11/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Hawkrod -- Lou, 02/11/2003
i didn't say they didn't exist..... -- hawkrod, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16253&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16253" onclick="return false;">Mike</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/11/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Mike -- Lou, 02/11/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16257&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16257" onclick="return false;">How about more info on the Falcon, Lou? [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 How about more info on the Falcon, Lou? [n/m] -- Mr F, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16259&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16259" onclick="return false;">63 HiPo Falcon</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 63 HiPo Falcon -- Lou, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16263&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16263" onclick="return false;">you're teasing me Lou...</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Barry B, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 you're teasing me Lou... -- Barry B, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16269&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16269" onclick="return false;">Barry, no on both counts.(n/m)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/12/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Barry, no on both counts.(n/m) -- Lou, 02/12/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16286&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16286" onclick="return false;">OK, now that that's out of the way,</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/15/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 OK, now that that's out of the way, -- Lou, 02/15/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16307&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16307" onclick="return false;">RE: OK, now that that's out of the way,</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: OK, now that that's out of the way, -- McQ, 02/18/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16314&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16314" onclick="return false;">I've talked to them already</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 I've talked to them already -- Lou, 02/18/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16318&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16318" onclick="return false;">RE: Alright now</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQ, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: Alright now -- Mike McQ, 02/18/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=16319&Reply=16225><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor16319" onclick="return false;">RE: the HP dampner</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQ, <i>02/18/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: the HP dampner -- Mike McQ, 02/18/2003
 RE: HP Damper plus... -- McQ, 02/18/2003
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