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390...or 428? (long)
By mike - 08/12/2003 11:57:20 PM; IP 152.163.252.167
I posted this question quite awhile ago....and at that time i figured i had a 390 with a 428 intake on my '66 Fairlane GT...But this summer i have met a couple a guys who appear to "know FE's" at a local cruise night,and looked at my engine...The 1st guy said that it looked like a 428,...pointing out the valve covers (chrome and say "powered by ford") the alt. is mounted "low"..he said like a 428 not a 390..??..also that i have room for 3 belts on the front ?......these last two didn't make any sense to me!...he then said on the outside it looked lik a 428...but added that i would have to tear it down to be sure(I figured that!)...Last week I met a guy.who drove in with a cherry 70 429 cobra jet...After talking with him and finding out he has another 429 engine,3- 428 cj's and a 427 engine at home (wow),I asked him if he would look at my engine,walking over to my GT he said you got a 390 in it huh? I said i wasn't sure..right away he spots the 428cj intake on it...then he looked at the fan and said i have a 428cj fan...I showed him how the heads don't match the exhaust manifolds,he said that the heads were made for a bigger car. and that they were either 390 hipo or 428 heads?and added.that if the exhaust manifolds would match they wouldn't fit inbetween the shock towers...(extra bolt hole in front.on top of the heads) he said an easy way to tell was to look at the flywheel? (counter balance)and tryed to get under the car but it sits a little too low in the front....we kept talk'in ...but he kept peek'in at it....
So anyway this is what i have...intake C8OE-9425-C....Heads are C8AE-H......Exhaust manifold (right side)C80E-9430-A....fan C80E-B...alt. mounting bracket C8AE-10156-A....Can't find any block casting numbers ..but did find date casting..which decoded showed it was cast on Jan.12th 1969..I did try to measure the stroke a couple of years ago...with the wooden dowel method..and came up with something inbetween a 390 and a 428 stroke....but I didn't have a socket big enough to get on the flywheel so i turned by hand as far as i could each way...this last guy suggested taking all the plugs out ...to get rid of the compression,i'll be able to get a full stroke..(never thought of that!)....I know that the intake is 428cj,the heads are "generic" heads used from 68-72? (360,390,428?),and I was told the exhaust is a 390 GT....
So my question is... are these two "experts" just getting my hopes up or is there any truth to what they say,?I'm curious about the fan and the other #'s......I'm just a "rookie"when it comes to FE's!
Thanks inadvance
Mike ,'66 fairlane GT
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Collapse <b>390...or 428? (long)</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/12/2003</i></font>390...or 428? (long) -- mike, 08/12/2003
 RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- Martin Micheelsen, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18107&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18107" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Royce Peterson, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18107', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18107') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- Royce Peterson, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18108&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18108" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18108', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18108') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- mike, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18109&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18109" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>tom, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18109', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18109') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- tom, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18111&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18111" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18111', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18111') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- mike, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18113&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18113" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18113', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18113') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- mike, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18116&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18116" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>rusty, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18116', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18116') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- rusty, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18125&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18125" onclick="return false;">Harmonic balancers are the same for any given year</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Royce Peterson, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18125', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18125') }); </script>  Harmonic balancers are the same for any given year -- Royce Peterson, 08/13/2003
 RE: Harmonic balancers are the same for any given year -- mike, 08/14/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18117&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18117" onclick="return false;">flywheel/balencer</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18117', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18117') }); </script>  flywheel/balencer -- mike, 08/13/2003
 RE: flywheel/balencer -- rusty, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18119&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18119" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>rusty, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18119', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18119') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- rusty, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18122&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18122" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18122', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18122') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- mike, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18123&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18123" onclick="return false;">My block is C7me-a,its a 390</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>steve, <i>08/13/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18123', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18123') }); </script>  My block is C7me-a,its a 390 -- steve, 08/13/2003
  Those numbers don"t mean anything. -- steve, 08/13/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18127&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18127" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>John, <i>08/14/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18127', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18127') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- John, 08/14/2003
 RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- Brien, 08/14/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18133&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18133" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/14/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18133', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18133') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- mike, 08/14/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18136&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18136" onclick="return false;">Manifolds</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Royce Peterson, <i>08/14/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18136', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18136') }); </script>  Manifolds -- Royce Peterson, 08/14/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18137&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18137" onclick="return false;">RE: Manifolds</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/14/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18137', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18137') }); </script>  RE: Manifolds -- mike, 08/14/2003
 RE:water pump/manifolds -- mike, 08/14/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18142&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18142" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>rusty, <i>08/15/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18142', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18142') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- rusty, 08/15/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18145&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18145" onclick="return false;">RE: 390...or 428? (long)</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mike, <i>08/15/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18145', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18145') }); </script>  RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- mike, 08/15/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18148&Reply=18100><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18148" onclick="return false;">exhaust?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>salid, <i>08/15/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=18148', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor18148') }); </script>  exhaust? -- salid, 08/15/2003
 RE: exhaust? -- dave, 09/10/2003
 RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- giacamo, 09/10/2003
 RE: 390...or 428? (long) -- giacamo, 09/10/2003
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