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RE: top end oil restrictors for Edelbrock heads |
By Geoff McNew - 10/20/2003 3:20:26 PM; IP 66.52.140.130 |
I spoke with a Marcus Lim, then Mike Rochon and he forwarded my email to their engineer, a "Jim" somebody. Edelbrock says the drain holes on their head should now be 7/16" ID at the top of rocker valley (mine apparently didn't get drilled full diameter all the way thru - looks like the bit stopped short by about 1/10" and left a smaller diameter shoulder - this I can fix with a hand drill without removing the heads or head bolts). Also, Edelbrock is going to start tapping the oil feed to the rocker so it can take a little set screw with a drilled orifice. (I've got a set of 0.090" ID tube restrictors coming from Gessford, BTW. Gessford also says they prefer the Victor Renz over the Felpro 1247 intake gasket.)
Here's the last email communication from Edelbrock:
Delivered-To: lonewolf@netwiz.net Received: by mail.netwiz.net (Postfix, from userid 11184) id A51126C38C; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.edelbrock.com (mail.edelbrock.com [63.202.124.194]) by mail.netwiz.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B58786C1FB for <lonewolf@netwiz.net>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.edelbrock.com by mail.edelbrock.com via smtpd (for mail.Netwiz.Net [208.136.106.6]) with SMTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:27:47 -0700 Received: from netserver.edelbrock [192.187.224.15] by GINGER - SurfControl E-mail Filter (4.6); Friday, 17 October 2003, 11:23:18 Received: by netserver with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <T7FBYTB7>; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:20:55 -0700 Message-ID: <FA0A792CD68DD611B68F00065B3834FB089F0F@netserver> From: Mike Rochon <MRochon@edelbrock.com> To: "'lonewolf@netwiz.net'" <lonewolf@netwiz.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:20:53 -0700 Subject: FW: FE heads - oil restrictors & drain holes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) X-SEF-85CBB7DC-1AAA-4D81-8D55-BF5C37990D: 1 Return-Receipt-To: Mike Rochon <MRochon@edelbrock.com> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on NFS X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 X-UIDL: I;2"!BUJ"!P5##!0B9"!
Geoff, I forwarded you e-mail to the engineer on this head. This is what he responded. I hope this helps you.
Hi Mike, This the only complaint I have heard about Fe oil drain-backs I changed the oil drains. The current configuration is easier to manufacture and works better. The hole size where the drain breaks into the cylinder head rocker valley is 7/16" diameter not 11/32", this oil drain size is typically sufficient. I looked at heads that we are currently manufacturing to check that they were machined correctly and I saw no problems. I reject the guys complaint that he cannot restrict the oil because the he cannot use a Holley carburetor jet in the passage. The passage can easily be tapped for a 1/4-20 setscrew that can be drilled with their desired orifice size. If the guy is hesitant installing the restrictors in an assembled engine. I would tap the oil passage with a greased tap and then I would flush-out any remaining chips in the passage by pulling the distributor and spinning the oil pump. Catch the oil and chips that come out of the passage with a rag, then install the restrictor. To solve the oil restrictor complaint I think I will add the 1/4-20 tapping to the FE head and instructions in the installation instructions on how to make and install the restrictors. Jim
-----Original Message----- From: Geoff McNew [mailto:lonewolf@netwiz.net] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:04 PM To: mlin@edelbrock.com Cc: mrochon@edelbrock.com Subject: FE heads - oil restrictors & drain holes
Too much oil in the valve covers is one of the trusty old FE engine's very few problems. Finding the balance between too much and too little oil can be tricky, given all the variables such as pump volume/pressure. Fortunately, Ford factory heads have a large enough drilling in the passage under the rocker stand to accept a standard Holley jet, or a fabricated bushing with 0.060"-0.090" orifice is also commonly used to restrict flow to the rocker shaft. The Edelbrock head has like a 3/16" drilling - too small for a jet. It could be a nice feature if Edelbrock started relieving the drilling and tapping it for a jet, BTW. But, as is, the 3/16" drilling puts too much oil up top...way too much for the small oil drain holes and only gravity for help. I spoke with your Mike Rochon earlier today, and he explained Edelbrock changed the oil drainback hole design on the FE head once. In fact, I've corresponded with a customer who had your old design. I have the current design and the Felpro 1247 intake gasket seems to work fine, but the drain hole is still inadequate. The head bolt goes through the oil drain, like with a factory head, but the hole diameter is smaller. Smaller still is the drain hole diameter "upstream" - something like 11/32". So, all the oil build up in the valve cover at elevated RPM's submerges the rear most valve springs (first); after about 1,500 miles with some wear on the valve seals, they start letting enough oil by and you get smoke out the pipes under vacuum/trailing throttle, plus very oilly #4 and/or #8 spark plugs. I guess I could drill out the drain holes a tad? But how much? It'd be kinda tough to relieve these drain holes with the engine assembled and in the car. I'm a little affraid to remove even one head bolt to allow a drill bit, as if the idea of catching the shavings wasn't bad enough. |
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