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RE: great story and I learned that.....
By McQ - 10/30/2003 11:32:09 AM; IP 209.19.180.126
That's correct, the 390GT wasn't the dog that current publications make it out to be. It was/is a nice street package. The 390 was a known power house based primarily on the very strong/vaunted '61, early '62 HP 390-375/401 horse package. However the 390GT was little more than a standard 390 with a very decent hydraulic cam, the C6OZ-B.

I tweaked my '66 GTA into the consistent 14's with the main tweak being a C7AE '67 428 PI intake manifold. That intake was a gift from my folks for my 21st birthday in '69. That was a big deal for a very low buck college kid. My GTA remained basically stock in the ten years I owned it with 3.25 gearing, stock exhaust manifolds. It ran very well in 1976...14.3/99mph. Then I made a huge mistake and sold it.

As for a stick/4 speed Cobra running better, yes I agree with you that a good driver wth slicks generally could beat a C6 backed CJ. I wanted to order our dealer Cobra with the 4 speed but the sales manager preferred the auto. because he wanted to drive it too. I was happy enough that he went with the idea of having a performance car on the premises that I didn't argue.

There was another '69 FAIRLANE Cobra driver regularly racing at Deer Park, Grant Marr was his name. He had a Sport Roof(fastback) red Cobra 4.30 drag pack, ram air, 4 speed, 'stone 500's/Hookers. He was an excellent driver who showed no mercy for the powertrain. He powershifted that toploader with stock Ford linkage to consistent high 12's. I think that demonstrated well how easy it was to prep a CJ powered car into very decent ETs for the time.

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 Honestly, how did the 428 CJ compare -- blinker, 10/29/2003
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 Unit tested was not in full, retail trim. EG: its a non-GT. [n/m] -- Mr F, 10/29/2003
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 RE:the facts....as I see 'em -- McQ, 10/30/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18963&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18963" onclick="return false;">great story  and I learned that.....</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>10/30/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 great story and I learned that..... -- blinker, 10/30/2003
Collapse <b>RE: great story  and I learned that.....</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>10/30/2003</i></font>RE: great story and I learned that..... -- McQ, 10/30/2003
 Was there any new engineering in the 428 CJ -- blinker, 10/30/2003
 That was great! Thanks for the insight. n/m -- Bill, 10/30/2003
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 I concur.. -- Don, 10/30/2003
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 RE: I concur.. -- McQ, 10/30/2003
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 RE: could the mighty 427 take a LS6? -- McQ, 10/30/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18989&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18989" onclick="return false;">That's almost like watching a hero die........</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>10/31/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE:A 13.7 Subaru?!! -- McQ, 10/31/2003
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 RE:A 13.7 Subaru?!! -- blinker, 10/31/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18995&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18995" onclick="return false;">Here's what Subaru claims....</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/01/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Here's what Subaru claims.... -- blinker, 11/01/2003
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 RE:thanks and.... -- McQ, 11/01/2003
 RE:know=NO -- McQ, 11/01/2003
 one good thing, you can buy a new Cobra cheaper -- blinker, 11/01/2003
 Glad you post here, sir. I enjoy your stories. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/01/2003
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 RE: Here's what Subaru claims.... -- Geoff McNew, 11/10/2003
 RE: Here's what Subaru claims.... -- Geoff McNew, 11/10/2003
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 RE:the facts....as I see 'em -- mike, 10/30/2003
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 RE:the facts....as I see 'em -- mike, 10/30/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18971&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18971" onclick="return false;">Great info guys! My 390 GT times</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gary Adam, <i>10/30/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Great info guys! My 390 GT times -- Gary Adam, 10/30/2003
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 Something for the "boat anchor" types... -- richard, 11/01/2003
 RE:Great 390 info! -- McQ, 11/02/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19009&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19009" onclick="return false;">heres the 600HP WITH 32, YES 32 MPG 390</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/02/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 heres the 600HP WITH 32, YES 32 MPG 390 -- blinker, 11/02/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19010&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19010" onclick="return false;">...theres a whole lot more to the article,</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/02/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 ...theres a whole lot more to the article, -- blinker, 11/02/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19019&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19019" onclick="return false;">Thanks - I added the link to your original post. [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 Thanks - I added the link to your original post. [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/03/2003
 RE: Thanks - I added the link to your original post. [n/m] -- BarryMcLarty, 11/06/2003
 RE:the facts.... -- P, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=18984&Reply=18955><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor18984" onclick="return false;">RE: Honestly, how did the 428 CJ compare</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>ford429cjlover, <i>10/31/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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 RE: Honestly, how did the 428 CJ compare -- ford429cjlover, 10/31/2003
 RE: Honestly, how did the 428 CJ compare -- Geoff McNew, 11/05/2003
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