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RE: You are comparing apples and oranges
By hawkrod - 11/03/2003 9:26:51 PM; IP 64.12.96.237
i'm just going to pipe in here as a couple of comments were pretty strong, and i think innacurate. the 409 is not at all known for killing itself. in fact they have gone down in history as one of the most trouble free chevrolet engines based on warantee repair records. now i don't own one and don't have the desire to, but to make a statement like that that is contrary to the facts kind of rubs me the wrong way. also the only reason the 409 production tapered off is expense. they were expensive to manufacture due to the unusual design and they were near the cubic diplacement limit for the block design and so a new engine was designed in the early 60's to replace the 409. note that the replacement design was begun about the same time the first 409's were hitting the streets. the reason the 65 409 production was so low is because the 396 was cheaper and easier build and the savings were passed on making the 396 a better buy for the consumer. it also didn't hurt that the performance potential of the 396 was much greater than the 409 due to the excellent head design. the only thing that killed the 409 was the limitations of the design not the competition. keep in mind that teh vast majority of the big races were won by 409's not 427 fords. sad but true. hawkrod
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19022&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19022" onclick="return false;">Production numbers for the 427</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19022', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19022') }); </script>  Production numbers for the 427 -- P, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19024&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19024" onclick="return false;">a breakdown by type would be great</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19024', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19024') }); </script>  a breakdown by type would be great -- blinker, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19028&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19028" onclick="return false;">You are comparing apples and oranges</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19028', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19028') }); </script>  You are comparing apples and oranges -- Lou, 11/03/2003
Collapse <b>RE: You are comparing apples and oranges</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>11/03/2003</i></font>RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- hawkrod, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19035&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19035" onclick="return false;">RE: You are comparing apples and oranges</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19035', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19035') }); </script>  RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- blinker, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19036&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19036" onclick="return false;">RE: You are comparing apples and oranges</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>11/03/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19036', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19036') }); </script>  RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- hawkrod, 11/03/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19038&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19038" onclick="return false;">RE:in defense of Lou</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19038', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19038') }); </script>  RE:in defense of Lou -- McQ, 11/04/2003
 The 409 boat anchor was a PLANK HEAD motor -- P, 11/04/2003
 RE: You are comparing apples and oranges -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19043&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19043" onclick="return false;">GM had great drivers, too: Dyno Don, Ron Sox, M. Durham, etc. [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19043', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19043') }); </script>  GM had great drivers, too: Dyno Don, Ron Sox, M. Durham, etc. [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19052&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19052" onclick="return false;">Dyno Don (Nicholson) was a Ford guy !</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19052', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19052') }); </script>  Dyno Don (Nicholson) was a Ford guy ! -- P, 11/04/2003
 RE: Dyno Don (Nicholson) was a Ford guy ! -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19059&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19059" onclick="return false;">He drove 409 A/FX Chevs, through 1963. [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19059', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19059') }); </script>  He drove 409 A/FX Chevs, through 1963. [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19065&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19065" onclick="return false;">Thaanx for the info, learn something every day!</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19065', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19065') }); </script>  Thaanx for the info, learn something every day! -- P, 11/05/2003
 Ford really wanted the '64 A/FX Comets to do well. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/05/2003
 AMC's S/S AMX faster than the T-BOLT? -- blinker, 11/07/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19042&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19042" onclick="return false;">Don't forget trans. availability (409, 4-speed) as a major factor. [n/m]</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19042', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19042') }); </script>  Don't forget trans. availability (409, 4-speed) as a major factor. [n/m] -- Mr F, 11/04/2003
 RE: Don't forget trans. availability (409, 4-speed) as a major factor. [n/m] -- P, 11/04/2003
 Take a peek at the 409 NASCAR history -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19047&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19047" onclick="return false;">You may be right</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19047', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19047') }); </script>  You may be right -- P, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19054&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19054" onclick="return false;">In my own defense:</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19054', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19054') }); </script>  In my own defense: -- Lou, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19055&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19055" onclick="return false;">Note about the 426 Hemis:</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>11/04/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19055', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19055') }); </script>  Note about the 426 Hemis: -- Lou, 11/04/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19063&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19063" onclick="return false;">RE: Note about the 426</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19063', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19063') }); </script>  RE: Note about the 426 -- P, 11/05/2003
 RE: Note about the 426 -- P, 11/05/2003
 You speak well in your own defense, Lou -- P, 11/05/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19070&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19070" onclick="return false;">RE: Production numbers for the 427</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Travis Miller, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19070', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19070') }); </script>  RE: Production numbers for the 427 -- Travis Miller, 11/05/2003
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19071&Reply=19022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor19071" onclick="return false;">if the SOHC hadn't been factored to death</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>blinker, <i>11/05/2003</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=19071', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor19071') }); </script>  if the SOHC hadn't been factored to death -- blinker, 11/05/2003
 what was happening on the track meant -- Lou, 11/05/2003
 Very interesting, thanks! -- P, 11/05/2003
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