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The Feds got into it in 1968.

By Dave Shoe - 08/19/2004 2:08:30 AM; IP 216.243.176.34

Federal emissions laws are what tamed the 427 in 1968. Before Ford could put an engine into a 1968 car, it would have to be Federally certified in that particular chassis/engine/tranny combination.

For 1968, only the Cougar/427/C6 was certified for the 427. This was a spendy proposition, so no 4-speeds were created, in order to reduce certification costs.

I can well understand a few 427s being special ordered for non-standard (and expensive) police vehicles up through 1967, but police contracts tended to be very cost competitive between the car manufacturers, and lowest fleet cost is most frequently what won a contract. Fleet cars were available in standard packages named: Interceptor, Cruiser, Guardian, Sentinel, Deputy, Defender, Ranger, Sentry, with associated engines as part of each package.

Since 427s were never a fleet option, and since they were always expensive engines (remember how Shelby had to fight to get them and ended up with 428s in Cobras for 1966), I can't see 427s being casually available in police cars.

Also, the aforementioned GT-500 428PI VIN mismatch was logical because Ford did not have a manufacturing protocol for stuffing 428 engines into Mustangs until they budgeted the protocol for the CJ Mustang, so Ford used the 390 Mustang protocol with an amendment to make the early GT-500s.

Ford DID have a manufacturing protocol for stuffing 427s into 1967 Galaxies, so any police cars with production line 427s would have gotten the correct engine code in the VIN, along with all the other mandatory parts (heavy duty brakes, axles, etc) which made the 427 Galaxie an appropriately balanced vehicle.

427s for 1968 police cars is not logical or legal. For 1967 police cars 427s would be very uncommon "special order" cars sold at a substantial premium, and likely quoted outside the fleet contract. A cop would have to be close friends with the buyer to get one of these approved.

427s were never cheaply available to the production line.

JMO,
Shoe.

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FE vs. 427W -- McQ, 08/11/2004

'61 Starliner was a 375hp originally -- blinker, 08/11/2004

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check this one out -- blinker, 08/11/2004

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RE: check this one out -- McQ, 08/11/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22405&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22405" onclick="return false;"> Ford did offer an engine upgrade..</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Don, <i>08/12/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Ford did offer an engine upgrade.. -- Don, 08/12/2004

RE: Ford did offer an engine upgrade.. -- Barry McLarty, 08/12/2004

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RE: Ford did offer an engine upgrade.. -- McQ, 08/12/2004

McQ was pretty close . . . -- Orin, 08/17/2004

RE: Fairlane Stainless Clips. -- mark, 05/04/2006

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22414&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22414" onclick="return false;">In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>08/12/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/12/2004

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RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy orderi -- McQ, 08/13/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22430&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22430" onclick="return false;">Just FYI: '67 427 option was ~$1300. And I was 12. ;-) [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>08/14/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Just FYI: '67 427 option was ~$1300. And I was 12. ;-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/14/2004

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Turning 50 this year? -- JohnRB, 04/25/2005

Yep - the big 5-0 has finally caught me. ::LOL:: [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

RE: Just FYI: '67 427 option was ~$1300. And I was 12. ;-) [n/m] -- walt, 04/27/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22431&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22431" onclick="return false;">MSRP of 427 was ~$1125 + 4-speed was priced sep. [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>08/14/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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MSRP of 427 was ~$1125 + 4-speed was priced sep. [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/14/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22432&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22432" onclick="return false;">RE:Thank you for showing me the errors in my way</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>08/14/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE:Thank you for showing me the errors in my way -- McQ, 08/14/2004

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RE:A few more facts on that "upgrade" -- McQ, 08/14/2004

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I have a 67 Armchair price guide -- Lou, 08/14/2004

I have original dealer pricing sheets. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/15/2004

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Police car option was 428, not 427. -- Royce, 08/15/2004

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I bought several of the -- Uberty's Auto Wrecking, 08/16/2004

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What model year were those cars? -- Dave Shoe, 08/17/2004

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RE: What model year were those cars? -- Uberty's Auto Wrecking, 08/17/2004

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Impossible. -- Royce P, 08/17/2004

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OK, If you say so !! -- Uberty's Auto wrecking, 08/18/2004

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RE: OK, If you say so !! -- Tony P., 08/18/2004

1967 Shelby's not germane. Ford admitted error... -- Mr F, 08/18/2004

Collapse <b>The Feds got into it in 1968.</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>08/19/2004</i></font>

The Feds got into it in 1968. -- Dave Shoe, 08/19/2004

Shoe, I understand what you are saying -- Lou, 08/19/2004

RE: Impossible. -- ford429cjlover, 08/19/2004

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RE: Impossible. -- Ice Mike, 05/04/2005

RE: Impossible. -- McQ, 05/04/2005

Definitely some '67s or possibly all 1968 models? [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/18/2004

Just curious, but did they also have Thermactor? [n/m] -- Mr F, 08/17/2004

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RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy orderi -- bob, 01/06/2005

They had 'medium-rise' induction, as Gerry explained... -- Mr F, 01/06/2005

RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy orderi -- walt, 04/27/2005

RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m] -- walt, 04/24/2005

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RE: In '67, 427 Fairlane was RPO - no fancy ordering req'd. [n/m] -- walt, 04/27/2005

Really - Fords in those boats? Neat. :-) I had no idea. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/27/2005

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Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- Orin, 08/17/2004

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RE: Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- kyle thompson, 08/19/2004

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RE:I apologize! -- McQ, 08/19/2004

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22523&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22523" onclick="return false;">Me too..</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Don, <i>08/20/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Me too.. -- Don, 08/20/2004

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RE:427 ft.lbs.of torque -- McQ, 08/20/2004

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Speaking of fishtails, -- blinker, 05/11/2005

RE: Speaking of fishtails, -- McQ, 05/12/2005

RE:I apologize! -- walt, 05/04/2005

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RE: Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- walt, 04/24/2005

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Ford's production database shows no 427 Mustang built. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/24/2005

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RE: Ford's production database shows no 427 Mustang ... -- walt, 04/25/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24723&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24723" onclick="return false;">Sure - Ford *definitely* built & sold '68 Cougars w/ 427. [n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>04/25/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Sure - Ford *definitely* built & sold '68 Cougars w/ 427. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

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RE: Sure - Ford *definitely* built & sold '68 Cougars w/ 427. [n/m] -- walt, 04/30/2005

Oh, sure - Ford maybe dealers installed a few 427s. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

...but those wouldn't be 'true' 427 cars (wrong VIN). [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

The big problem: adding a 427 voided the warranty. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

But that book only says the code exists...not actual cars. [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

If Ford says they didn't build 'em, who am I to argue? :-D [n/m] -- Mr F, 04/25/2005

RE: Here's a 1967 Armchair Estimater . . -- walt, 04/27/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22572&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor22572" onclick="return false;">who cares!n/m</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>bubba, <i>08/23/2004</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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who cares!n/m -- bubba, 08/23/2004

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427 vs 428 -- Travis Miller, 08/24/2004

RE: 427 vs 428 -- walt, 04/17/2005

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RE: 427 vs 428 -- walt, 04/24/2005

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RE:this is hilarious! -- McQ, 04/27/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24768&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24768" onclick="return false;">How heavy?</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>JohnRB, <i>04/28/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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How heavy? -- JohnRB, 04/28/2005

RE: How heavy? -- McQ, 04/28/2005

Though I'd just add this one . . . -- Orin, 04/28/2005

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RE: FE vs. 427W -- walt, 05/02/2005

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24850&Reply=22391><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor24850" onclick="return false;">Yep - that's the stock air cleaner for M-series Thunderbirds...</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>05/03/2005</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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Yep - that's the stock air cleaner for M-series Thunderbirds... -- Mr F, 05/03/2005

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RE: Yep - that's the stock air cleaner for M-series Thunderbirds... -- walt, 05/04/2005

I think Ford sold 'em as replacements for the std. part. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/04/2005

So, you'd order a plain one but find a 'Bird in the box. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/04/2005

M-series (6v) set-up had a unique intake, with 'level' carbs. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/03/2005