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RE: RJP AND Stanley AREN'T SO RIGHT

By JCRAFTCARS - 12/27/2000 7:55:49 PM; IP 205.188.192.27

Sorry , wrong. At least that's what a fellow named Yunick says. According to Smokey, Ford's Boss '9 dry sump cost about 60 horse-power on the dyno-but was necessary. Of course, you lads all know better than Smokey, I'll bet. To digress, I miss the point of the purile insults that folks like Stanley and RJP seem incapable of posting without. Sounds like some basic insecurities are leaking out on to the web. But back on point, the Boss I built is on the dyno and at present (without a sump or the restrictors that Ford racers employed in '69) needs help in the pressure department. Just like the several 429 Cobra Jets I've built. However the 428 CJs and the 427 MR I've built -while possessing far from perfect oiling systems-didn't run out from under the pump like my 385 motors have. Of course neither did the Boss 302 and the various Windsors (302 & 351) I've built. Or even the 2000 cc OHC Pinto motor that I built for my Alpine. I only mention the mechanical "vita" to suggest that my reports are based on fairly lengthy ,personal engine building experience-not the tech section in the Mustang Trader or wishful thinking. It may be worthy of noting that the folks (Matt and Scott) at my local Ford only machine shop (Powered By Ford Orlando-builders of the Super Trooper-former World's fastest naturally aspirated 5.0 Mustang - have run into the very same problems with the scores of 385 series engines they've built and dynoed,too. I know, I know, those professionals, along with Smokey and the Ford E&Fengineers who found it necessary to install a REAL pump (dual rotor no less) inside a race Boss'9s internal dry sump system are all just plain wrong. If you're own experiences differ ,then congratulations.

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FE versus 409 Chevy -- P, 12/22/2000

RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- Brian, 12/22/2000

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RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- gerry, 12/22/2000

RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- Brian, 12/25/2000

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RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- Stanley Superior, 12/22/2000

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Nothing to write home about? Think again, -- Louie, 12/22/2000

RE: Scrooge has nothing to write home about.! -- RC Moser, 12/22/2000

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Precious Windsors in NASCAR? -- Alan, 12/22/2000

One more thing -- Alan, 12/22/2000

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RE: Precious Windsors in NASCAR? -- Whole Lotta Tom, 12/22/2000

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RE: Precious Windsors in NASCAR? -- Stanley Superior, 12/22/2000

Having a problem backing up your statement? -- Louie, 12/22/2000

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Reason for smallblocks in NASCAR -- Alan, 12/22/2000

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RE: Reason for smallblocks in NASCAR -- Stanley Superior, 12/22/2000

Sideoilers not available 40yrs. ago. n/m -- Alan, 12/22/2000

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385 Oiling -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/23/2000

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Jim Not-Too Smart -- Whole Lotta Tom, 12/24/2000

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RE: Whole Lotta Hubris -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/24/2000

Nice thrust & parry, fellas. All that and 'hubris', too? Neato. :-D [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/24/2000

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RE: Whole Lotta Hubris -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/24/2000

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The lapdog yippeth -- Whole Lotta Tom, 12/28/2000

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Re: more name calling? -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/28/2000

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RE: Re: more name calling? -- 406Custom300, 12/29/2000

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RE: WHT's Career in Auto Journalism -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/29/2000

Swell, guys - points made, all-'round. We're quits, Ok? [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/29/2000

"Lapdog"? ::ahem:: Its a draw. Let's move on. [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/28/2000

"Corpulent"? Ok - game called on account of animus. [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/28/2000

RE: Whole Lotta Hubris -- 406Custom300, 12/28/2000

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RE: 385 Oiling -- oil man, 12/25/2000

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RE: 385 Oiling -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/26/2000

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Since when does a 385 need a dry sump? -- RJP, 12/26/2000

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RE: RJP is absolutly right -- Stanley Superior, 12/27/2000

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RE: RJP AND Stanley AREN'T SO RIGHT -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/27/2000

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RE: Dropping names makes an arguement? -- RJP, 12/27/2000

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RE: Dropping names makes an arguement? -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/28/2000

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RE: No inane rants here... -- RJP, 12/28/2000

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RE: Misguided -- JCRAFTCARS, 12/29/2000

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RE: no controlled substance -- RJP, 12/29/2000

Gentlemen - stop arguing ad hominem & shake on it. [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/29/2000

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RE: 385 Oiling -- 406Custom300, 12/28/2000

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RE: 385 Oiling -- RJP, 12/28/2000

RE: 385 Oiling -- 406Custom300, 12/29/2000

RE: Precious Windsors in NASCAR? -- Brian, 12/25/2000

RE:NHRA banned big blocks in small body P/S -- Tim, 12/26/2000

RE: Precious Windsors in NASCAR? -- 406Custom300, 12/28/2000

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RE: Precious Windsors in NASCAR? -- 406Custom300, 12/28/2000

Sorry, folks - its my call. Actions elsewhere don't accrue. [n/m] -- Mr F, 12/28/2000

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Chew on this Randy... er.... Stanley -- DMA, 12/22/2000

Nascar -- dj, 12/23/2000

RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- Brian, 12/25/2000

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RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- P, 12/26/2000

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RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- RC Moser, 12/27/2000

RE: FE versus 409 Chevy -- Lou, 12/27/2000

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How's this for MEL power boy's?... -- steiny, 12/28/2000

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RE: How's this for MEL power boy's?... -- RJP, 12/28/2000

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RE: Kentz & Leslie... -- steiny, 12/29/2000

RE: Kentz & Leslie... -- RJP, 12/29/2000

NASCAR T-Bird with 430 MEL -- P, 12/29/2000

RE: How's this for MEL power -- P, 12/29/2000