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RE:Still available
By Dave Shoe - 03/07/2001 9:09:42 PM; IP 12.2.11.131
Windage trays do use two gaskets. You can usually see the windage tray with little difficulty, and can definitely see an extra fat sandwiching of material between the pan and block.

From what I've heard, the six quart suggestion is based on a Technical Service Bulletin issued on the CJ motor shortly after it went into production which involved a recalibrated dipstick and overfilling all CJ motors by one quart to prevent oil starvation at the pickup tube. Apparently, CJ cars were the first production FEs fast enough to readily create a starvation problem with a non-performance pan.

You can bet the Hilltop pan is a plain old five quart pan, but that they advise adding an extra quart based on the TSB (and because it adds value to the sales pitch). The extra quart makes running a windage tray important, too, as it's all the easier to dump the contents of the oil pan onto the crankshaft when turning or accelerating.

Thanks for the info on the extra baffling, as I thought I remembered some extra sheetmetal in the CJ and PI pans, but never really studied the stuff back then.

I agree that the baffling has little effect on performance, since a CJ pan shouldn't be used in high-performance applications. You gotta get a deep pan or baffled T-pan if you expect to pull some "g's" on a fast front-sump FE and expect oil to stay in it's veins.

JMO,
Shoe.
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RE:Still available -- Dave Shoe, 03/07/2001
 RE:Still available -- 410cougar, 03/08/2001
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 RE: Remember... -- J. Robb, 03/08/2001
 RE: 428 Cj oil pan -- John R. Barnes, 03/08/2001
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