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George Reid is a Bozo.
By Dave Shoe - 05/02/2001 2:01:57 AM; IP 216.243.158.82
George's book is packed with errors - perhaps more than any single book I've seen. It's every bit as bad as the infamous "Shelby's Wildlife" by Wallace A. Wyss.

George is obviously a writer, not a Ford engine enthusiast. Without leaving the sparsely worded page you referenced, you can find half a dozen more errors. Without turning the page, you can find a dozen errors. These two pages are mostly picture pages, too. There are not that many words to screw up. The whole book is like this.

You are correct that there was no Edsel foundry, and that blocks don't get "forged", they get "cast". The FE was principally cast in three different foundrys over it's lifespan, DIF, CF, and MCC.

You claim the 352 came before the 361. This is an error. The FE was born in 1958 - the SAME year the MEL was born and the SAME year the Edsel was born - and the FE's first year displacements were 332, 352, and 361. Note the 361 was used both in Edsels and certain Ford cars (this is a piece of trivia). Also note the first-year Edsel only offered FE and MEL motors, no other engine families. At any rate, the FE was used ONLY in Ford cars and Edsel cars from 1958-1960. In 1961, when the E-car (hey, that's what it was called inside Ford) passed away, the engine line-ups at FoMoCo sorta got swished around and the MEL and FE got a new mix of car lines.

Note also that the FE was NOT known to the public as an "FE" back in 1958. This acronym didn't surface until 1970. Most likely, "FE" was the project name while the engine was under development. Someday I hope to learn this for certain. At any rate, the FE was popularly known as the "Interceptor V-8" back in 1958. It didn't matter if it was a 240 horse 332-2V or a 300 horse 352, 1958 was the height of the short-lived "police interceptor" horsepower wars amongst the big-three car makers and Ford marketers stuck the "Interceptor" name onto every FE engine made to capitalize on the hype, even though MEL offered the only police-specific motors at FoMoCo that year. The FE had no police-specific motors the first years. As usual, I've drifted off track.

In summary: FE does stand for Ford-Edsel, George Reid really is a bozo, and you do care about the FE acronym because you just posted on the topic, and even researched some before posting. I post on it because I want someone to show me a solid reason why it does not stand for Ford-Edsel. So far, I have found no reasons other than "some bozo said so".

I do believe Mr Reid's book is a valuable resource for FE enthusiasts (and the great mass of errors do have entertainment value), but you've gotta weigh the information he presents with information from credible sources before you can weed out what is fact and what is fiction.

Shoe.
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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6127&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6127" onclick="return false;">What is "FE"</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gary, <i>04/25/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6127', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6127') }); </script>  What is "FE" -- Gary, 04/25/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6130&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6130" onclick="return false;">RE: What is "FE"</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>etm63, <i>04/25/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6130', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6130') }); </script>  RE: What is "FE" -- etm63, 04/25/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6131&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6131" onclick="return false;">Yup. Ford-Edsel is the most logical meaning.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>04/25/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6131', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6131') }); </script>  Yup. Ford-Edsel is the most logical meaning. -- Dave Shoe, 04/25/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6199&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6199" onclick="return false;">RE: Yup. Ford-Edsel is the most logical meaning.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>rick, <i>04/28/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6199', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6199') }); </script>  RE: Yup. Ford-Edsel is the most logical meaning. -- rick, 04/28/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6211&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6211" onclick="return false;">RE: Yup. Ford-Edsel is the most logical meaning.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>richard, <i>04/30/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6211', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6211') }); </script>  RE: Yup. Ford-Edsel is the most logical meaning. -- richard, 04/30/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6215&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6215" onclick="return false;">Yup. No-One knows , and everyone disagrees</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>John, <i>04/30/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6215', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6215') }); </script>  Yup. No-One knows , and everyone disagrees -- John, 04/30/2001
Collapse <b>George Reid is a Bozo.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>05/02/2001</i></font>George Reid is a Bozo. -- Dave Shoe, 05/02/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6232&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6232" onclick="return false;">RE: George Reid is a Bozo.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>John, <i>05/02/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6232', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6232') }); </script>  RE: George Reid is a Bozo. -- John, 05/02/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6234&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6234" onclick="return false;">Actually...</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>05/02/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6234', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6234') }); </script>  Actually... -- Dave Shoe, 05/02/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6241&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6241" onclick="return false;">332 FE-Lincoln</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Rob, <i>05/02/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6241', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6241') }); </script>  332 FE-Lincoln -- Rob, 05/02/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6243&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6243" onclick="return false;">Not a FE</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lou, <i>05/02/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6243', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6243') }); </script>  Not a FE -- Lou, 05/02/2001
 So...What is it? -- Rob, 05/02/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6245&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6245" onclick="return false;">Yup, that's the old 302/332 truck engine.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>05/02/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6245', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6245') }); </script>  Yup, that's the old 302/332 truck engine. -- Dave Shoe, 05/02/2001
 Its strange that they reused the 302 designation.. -- Ed Jenkins, 11/10/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6322&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6322" onclick="return false;">That'll teach me.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gary, <i>05/08/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6322', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6322') }); </script>  That'll teach me. -- Gary, 05/08/2001
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=12669&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor12669" onclick="return false;">RE: That'll teach me.</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>B Gaugler, <i>04/21/2002</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=12669', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor12669') }); </script>  RE: That'll teach me. -- B Gaugler, 04/21/2002
 yeah he is the one smoking the cig afterwards..N/M -- hawkrod, 04/26/2002
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6321&Reply=6127><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<a href="#" id="anchor6321" onclick="return false;">Bowties and Mopars, too ?</a>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Orin, <i>05/08/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6321', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6321') }); </script>  Bowties and Mopars, too ? -- Orin, 05/08/2001
 Mopar did have a 318 wide block and a 318 LA... -- Dan Davis, 11/10/2001
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