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428 Shelby Engine "pings"
By Steve Boulay - 06/14/2001 2:30:17 PM; IP 161.114.88.72
My 428...'67 Shelby runs well but "pings" under heavy load. I've set the timing conservatively(I think.....12 deg. initial) and added enough lead additive (LS 130) to bring the octane level to somewhere between 98-100.
The timing (according to a vacuum gauge) is "late" and the engine runs better at idle if I push it farther ahead, but of course, the "ping" gets worse under acceleration. I'd like to run more initial timing to improve power brake booster signal, but not until I get this sorted out. I'm wondering if the centrifugal advance curve in the distributor is accessive, or if something else is amiss. I'm not sure, but I think the engine is nearly original (comp. ratio,...cam etc....)
I've also adjusted the vacuum advance to limit that part of the curve, I could pull that back more if it would help. Any insights from the experts will be appreciated..........Also,
is there a "reasonably" easy way to accurately verify whether or not the timing ring on the damper has slipped?
What effect would a stretched timing chain have on this symptom?
Thanx,
SGB
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Collapse <b>428 Shelby  Engine "pings"</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Steve Boulay, <i>06/14/2001</i></font>428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- Steve Boulay, 06/14/2001
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 RE: Vacuum advance? What distributor's on there? [n/m] -- Steve Boulay, 06/14/2001
 Yep. OEM unit was dual point, mechanical.[n/m] -- Mr F, 06/14/2001
 RE: Vacuum advance? What distributor's on there? [n/m] -- richard, 06/15/2001
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 RE: Not surprisingly, GT500 was unique - a 428PI w/ dual point. [n/m] -- BOB HOPKINS, 06/15/2001
 RE: Not surprisingly, GT500 was unique.... [n/m] -- Kevin Marti, 06/18/2001
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 RE: 428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- Steve Boulay, 06/15/2001
 RE: 428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- BOB HOPKINS, 06/15/2001
 Look for cast & stamped info, like this.... -- Mr F, 06/15/2001
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 RE: 428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- Will, 06/15/2001
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 RE: 428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- Steve Boulay, 06/19/2001
 RE: 428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- Will, 06/19/2001
 RE: 428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- 32 valve, 06/16/2001
 RE: 428 Shelby Engine "pings" -- Rick Croom, 06/26/2001
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