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RE: 428 vs. 429 CJ
By Mike McQuesten - 06/27/2001 4:29:55 PM; IP 206.193.0.120
It's interesting that the engineer indicated that the '28 would outperform the '29 CJ. I haven't seen the article yet but will pick it up. Here's an honest to goodness true story comparison between the two big block Super CJ's. I was working as a lot lizard gofer at a Ford dealership in '69. We had a Fairlane Cobra Coupe(formal roof) that was a Super CJ/drag pack/ram-air with 3.91 gearing and C-6. It was as plain as we could order it. We would drive it to the drag strip that was 225+ miles away loaded with guys. Change the plugs to BF-22s at the strip. Run it in pure stock on the as equipped F70 X 14 Goodyear Polyglas rubber. Oh, we did remove the thermactor a-pump, etc. plugged the holes in the heads of course. That Fairlane Cobra would run 13.7 e.t. at 102 mph all night long. We all took turns driving it. It was so simple. Just leave it in Drive. Feather it out of the hole and drill the pedal to the floor with a little traction. It would shift perfectly at 5,300 RPM. There you go, high 13's for anybody. We dominated purer stock in that class that summer o'69. I think it was C pure stock. The head parts man was so impressed he ordered a '70 Torino Cobra Drag Pack, ram-air(yup, the very cool shaker scoop system) with 3.91s and C-6. It was a gorgeous car. Vermillion(Orange) w/black interior. It was the SCJ of course with solids and big Holley carb. It felt fabulous. It would torque rip the 15X7 Poly glas Goodyears on Magnums as it shifted into 2nd just like the 428 would do. Spring of '70, we drove it to the same drag strip. It ran okay but never better than a 14.00/99 mph in pure stock. Eventually Bud added slicks, headers, and a few tweaks and it hit low 13's. The '69 was long sold and totalled by its buyer. But it was obvious to all of us which car was quickest right off the trailer. The 428 '69 hands down. Don't think of this as a slam on the 429. Ford engineers were "developing" the series when performance development got squelched for the joy of the seventies. The potential of the big Lima block is obvious with what we see at many strips today.
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 RE: 428 vs. 429 CJ Barr's comment NOT in latest -- slumbering CJ, 06/27/2001
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 RE: 428 vs. 429 CJ -- Bob Enright, 07/04/2001
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