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| Help with part #'s please -- marcus68, 03/02/2004
Can anyone help with thes part#s: 2x4 intake - C5AE 9425-E 1x4 intake - C6AE 9421/J Cast Iron Shorty Headers - C0AE 9430&31 B
Also, can anyone tell me the correct Number for a mustang 390-427-428 bellhousing (67-70) or if any 4-speed bellhousing would work with the 427 in my 68.
Thanks for your help. |
| 427 Nascar Crank -- Phil, 03/02/2004
two questions on the crank. The C9AE-A number is ground down and in its place is SK 3737S, and the rod journal plugs are pressed in instead of screw in. I thought pressed in plugs were on early steel cranks? The rod journal does mic 0.080 wider than my other 427 steel crank. Any comments? |
| | RE: 427 Nascar Crank -- John, 03/04/2004
SK #s were used on prototype pre-production and experimental parts so that may explain the pressed in plugs some kind of experiment? |
| exhaust manifold id -- rick, 03/02/2004
hey, the exhaust manifold id numbers on my 390 are c5te-9431-b can anyone tell me what these are off of and any quality info that they may have. |
| | RE: exhaust manifold id -- Tim P., 03/02/2004
Are these cast headers? |
| | | RE: exhaust manifold id -- rick, 03/02/2004
yes |
| | | RE: exhaust manifold id -- Phill, 07/14/2004
I have my own question about exhaust manifold identification — I was sold a pair said to be for a 390, but it looks as if they are Cobra-Jets. Driver's side number is C70E-9431A, Passenger side is C60E-9430A
Can you identify these or refer me to a good source?
Thanks,
Phill |
| | | | RE: exhaust manifold id -- Barry B, 07/15/2004
those are 390 manifolds used in the '67-'68 mustang, fairlane, comet, cougar up to 2/15/68 and for the '68 mustang, cougar with a 427.
The cj manifolds look similar on the driver's side but way different on the passenger side. |
| 390 car or truck, good or bad for hp? -- rick, 03/02/2004
If this engine is a 390 how do I determine if its a car or truck? I would like to make around 500hp, what parts are good up to that number, which are not? If all bad for 500hp what can they handle? |
| | RE: 390 car or truck, good or bad for hp? -- giacamo, 03/04/2004
Rick most 390,s can hang for a very long time with up to 400 hp with stock parts but how fat is your wallet a 390 car or pickup truck is basic the same engin the ft truck engins as in the hd truck searies moters are good for some parts like the blocks rods and steal cranks but most need machine work to fit auto aps i try to stay around 300 to 400 hp moters that last me 100000 miles + |
| tachometer -- jeff, 03/02/2004
before i install pertronix ignitor on my 67 gal.500 w/390. will a standard tachometer that hooks up to the coil still work? |
| C6 valve body from a 390 -- Steve M, 03/02/2004
Does anybody know what valve body is on a C6 from a 1970 390 that used to be a column shift car? I am looking at a new hurst shifter, but they sell one for a reverse valve body and a forward valve body. Anybody know which one is for the column mount transmissions from a 70 galaxie on a 390? Or any place I can look on the transmission?
Thanks |
| 1964 R Code 427 ID Help please -- olddustyrelics, 03/02/2004
I'm looking at a 427 engine and I need a little help decoding it.
On the block it says
C4AE and the numbers 6013
by the oil filter is says 5J1 it looks like
on the flat plate in front of the oil filter on the front of the engine it has what looks like a lightly stamped "R" and in the lower corner of the plate a "HP" with what looks like a large "2" turned sideways. On the driver's side it has a large "11."
Heads say C4AE on both but the right has the # 0906 G and the left has 8090 G and the letters DIF on both
Carbs are Holley with one 1850 (front) and the other 1131 (rear)
Can anyone here shed some light on exactly what this engine is or what it is from?
HELP! James
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| | RE: 1964 R Code 427 ID Help please -- John, 03/04/2004
James a block with a casting #C4AE-A does fall into the group of 427 casting #s but that # was also used on 390s that had the bosses for crossbolts.If you can't take the heads off to check the bore size then look for these external identifiers 1.crossbolts above pan rail 2.extra oil pressure relief valve in back of block above rear cam soft plug 3.Lack of lifter oil galleys in back of block 4.There will be the letters HP cast into the block(as well as stamped in the area you mentioned)in at least one spot usually in multiple spots.If all of these are not present I would be leery of it because the C4AE block is capable of recieving crossbolt mains even if it started out as a 352 or 390.The lack of lifter galleys and the extra oil relief valve are good indicators of a 427 block though,I have seen one 406 service block that was a C4AE & had all the above items but it may have been a 427 block machined with 406 bores.The C4AE -6090-G heads are 390 heads,the casting #s are sometimes almost impossible to read.Neither of the carbs are correct 427 carbs.Matched dual quad carbs will typically have consecutive list #s.The casting date you gave sounds a little late for a C4AE block but you never know what Ford would do.Hpoe this helps. |
| | | RE: 1964 R Code 427 ID Help please -- olddustyrelics, 03/04/2004
I'm having a sinking feeling about this car. The carbs do seem too new to be original. The heads have two different part numbers. Is the other head a 427 head? Where can I get a picture of the oil pressure rleif valve or the oil galleys for comparison? What did the casting date decode to??
Thanks for answering the previus questions. You were very helpful. Sorry about the additional questions. |
| | | | RE: 1964 R Code 427 ID Help please -- John, 03/05/2004
I didn't realize you were talking about a completet car.With the engine in the car it will be impossible to see the oil galleys and the oil relief valve.Both heads are probably 64 352-390 heads sounds like they are both C4AE-6090-G heads the one just has poor casting and is hard to read.See if you can take another look at the casting #s on the block.the one should be C4AE-6015-? instead of 6013,and if the other is 3J1 instead of 5J1 that would make more sense meaning it was cast in sept.63 which would be a 64 model year block.5J1 would be sept.65 making it a 66 model year block.Regardless of the casting #s with the incorrect parts already identified unless the seller would agree to a teardown to verify it is really a 427 I would price it assuming the engine is a 390 with a dual quad intake.Also take a close look at the car itself,there are a lot of things peculiar to a 427 car.Check to make sure the VIN on the door tag matches the VIN on the cowl tag and has R as the 5th digit,also it should be a 4 speed car with no A/C PS or PB and the brake line that crosses the engine compartment should be clamped to the frontmost frame crossmember just behind the core support and not to the tubular crossmember that crosses under the oilpan of the engine as do the non high performance Galaxies and the cable that goes from the solenoid to the starter should be clamped to the pass. side inner fender and firewall instead of alongside the block as on non highperf cars.The starter cable could easily have been rerouted over the years but if the brake line crosses under the engine then the car has seen serious rebuilding such as a replacement frame or is an out and out fake. |
| | | RE: 1964 R Code 427 ID Help please -- giacamo, 03/04/2004
with out tearing into it, it,s very hard to tell what you have, 427? 406? or a home made concockshin?wen thay get that old it can have reworked ft truck parts in it. on it,s last bore befor sleaving?i,d by cheap unless the seller knows the engin..... |
| FE Mustang exhaust -- Dano, 03/01/2004
Does anyone know of a good dual exhaust system kit for 67-70 Mustangs with the FE engines? |
| FE in 55 Ford Custom -- Rick Merrifield, 03/01/2004
I bought a 55 ford custom it a nostalgia drag car. I has a 429 in it now. I want to install a FE engine. Does any one know if I can use any of the free flowing exh. manifolds that came on the HiPo engines. The heads on my engine are the 8 bolt manifolds. Thanks Rick |
| 390? -- rick, 03/01/2004
Hey,
I have a fe engine I need to identify, heads are c8ae-h, pistons say 390, rods c7ae-d any help would be great.
Thanks |
| | Sounds like a 360 -- Dave Shoe, 03/01/2004
I'm not sure of the rods, but they sound like the skinny 352/360 jobbies.
You can verify by looking at the crank flange. If it's got both a square notch cutout and a half-circle cutout, then it's a 360. If it's only got the square notch, then it's a 1966-later 390 crank.
The 360 engine got 390-4V pistons to drop the compression. Some were marked "390-4V", other identical pistons were marked "360".
The 390 pickup truck engine got 410 pistons to drop the compression to prevent pinging when hauling heavy loads long distances. Compression for both the 360 and 390 pickup truck engines were around 8.5:1
Shoe. |
| | | RE: Sounds like a 360 -- rick, 03/01/2004
Thanks Shoe,
The crank flang has only the square notch on the O.D. so that means its a 390? or could it be something else? Also, where do I find the block and crank I.D. info and what numbers/letters am I looking for. This may sound like a silly quesion but if you saw how deep I have to dig through greasy grime (no I'm not finiky) to get to steel, then you would understand, but this engine is a mess. |
| | Re: 390? -- giacamo, 03/02/2004
what numbers are on the crank most of the time wen the piston says 390 it,s a 390...... |
| | | RE: Re: 390? -- rick, 03/03/2004
I can not seem find the numbers on the crank, can you tell me where on the crank to look. I thought they are usually on the counter weight edges, but no luck. |
| | | | RE: Re: 390? -- giacamo, 03/03/2004
keep looking try the counter weight flats the part that is machined flat on the counter weights |
| | | | | RE: Re: 390? -- rick, 03/03/2004
found a "2U" cast into a weight and it looks like a X stamped into a machined flet at about the second weight from the front. May be two arrows faceing one another, but no id numbers. The #1 main cap (front) has c2ae cast in it. |
| | | | | | RE: Re: 390? -- giacamo, 03/04/2004
Rick it,s a 390 just rebilt a 390 with a 2u crank in it, |
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