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|  |  RE: In my continuing quest to keep things loose, please click here... -- kuch73, 05/11/2004
I guess I'm insane! |
|  | That's what I sounded like when . . . -- Orin, 05/11/2004
. . . I used to drink! |
 | Power Steering to Manual -- Tim, 05/11/2004
Hi all! . I am removing the complete power steering from my 69 Mach 428cj and installing a manual steering setup. Will the manual steering from a 67 Mustang work?.. Also the manual i have only shows power steering. If anyone can e-mail to me a pic or diagram of a manual steering system,i would appreciate it.. THANKS! |
| | Yes - '67 should 'work'. Swap the whole deal, intact. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/11/2004
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| | Be aware, tho' - Ford beefed up some parts, after '67. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/11/2004
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| Comp or Lunati Cam for 390 Galaxie? -- joe, 05/10/2004
I Have to purchase a cam kit this week and would like to get some opinions on these cams.
The car is a 66 2-door Galaxie with a 390 (.030). It is being set up with a blue thunder 2x4 medium riser intake with two holley 450's. It has C8OE-A heads. Crates headers and a C-6 with 2500 stall converter. Stock gears for the moment.
I am trying to choose a cam and I have narrowed it down to the comp cam 268 (218@.50 .494 lift 110 lobe) or the Lunati Bracket Master II series (.223@50 .514 lift )
I'm interested in having decent idle, vaccum, and torque (considering it's a heavy car). These two cam choices seem to me to be the maximum output before you start loosing those things. But I am no cam-expert. I want the most power I can get without giving up too much of those 3 charactaristics. Any suggestions of other cams are welcome also, But it's time for me to make the choice. Thanks |
|  | RE: single or dual pattern cam profile? -- joe, 05/11/2004
I also would like to know if there is an advantage to a dual pattern camshaft for use in a FE motor. The Comp 265 looks interesting (.211/.223@.50 - .484/.510 lift). |
| | | RE: single or dual pattern cam profile? -- giacamo, 05/11/2004
the 265 works great in heavy weights and pickups i,v used the 265 in many fe 390,s and everyone loves the way it comes off idel.most run 600 to 650 carb. with a standerd or auto has a decent sounding idel and seams to last i also use one pice spring retainers and never forget to mach springs... |
| | | | RE: single or dual pattern cam profile? -- joe, 05/12/2004
That comp 265 looks about right. It is a dual pattern design. I might go for that or the single pattern comp 268. I liked the lunati because there is a site that sold the entire kit with springs, retainers, and all for $249. But it was a bit hotter than the others, and I do want a torquey, smooth running motor. |
| | | | | Thanks- I'm going with the comp 265! -- joe, 05/12/2004
I called comp and they also said I would be most happy with the 265. I got the whole kit for $375. I think it's the best choice. |
| here's an interesting post from another forum -- blinker, 05/10/2004
Torino at the Hot Rod Pump Gas Drags
May 4 2004 at 9:26 AM Barry R (Login Barry_R)
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Hi folks,
I thought I'd give you an update on the Hot Rod Pump Gas Drags that I participated in over the weekend. The event got compressed into a single day due to inclement weather. Hot Rod, Comp Cams, and Memphis Motorsports Park busted tail to get this thing pulled off - or we'd have driven 12 hours to sit in rain.
The idea of the event was to drive 50 invited cars to the track, and to make three consecutive passes without opening the hood or tuning the car, all on spec 93 octane fuel.
I knew going in that I wasn't going to be a hitter. I was gambling pretty hard on the package, since pump gas was not what the car was built for - a 3600 lb. 1969 Torino with 13:1 compression and no power adders. Of course I was the only FE in the field. I also was the only non-5.0 style Ford.
After a major thrash to get the car assembled (engine installed into the car last Friday) I loaded into a trailer shared with another contestant (we rode like rock stars in a borrowed stacker semi rig - - the other guy has good "freinds").
The very first pass on this package was at the test and tune in Memphis the day before the event. It started raining as I went through the traps, but a 10.44 a 131mph gave me reason to hope.
The cruise was a brutal 33 mile drive through Memphis rush hour traffic. I installed the wrong radiator cap in the rush to get ready, and had no coolant recovery - coolant went out to the overflow but could not return. Temps climbed over 200, the car rattled pretty good(it only started pinging after temps went wild), but never boiled over and I made it to the track OK.
First pass went well - - 10.46
Second pass I saw water on the windsheild & let off - 10.80
Third pass the overflow tank was overflowing and the car got really loose in 2nd. Lacking common sense, I still went 11.15.
The 3 pass average of 10.80 put us pretty much in the middle of the pack. Not bad for an obsolete dinosaur, but we could have been in the hunt for a jacket with a little more practice - the tenth place guy had a 10.0 second average - not out of reach....
A lot of really stout cars didn't make it through - the FE did.
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| | moe info about the engine -- blinker, 05/10/2004
May 4 2004, 2:00 PM
The car has been in my possession since 1981. Its been a fixture in the Detroit street racing community over the years. Never one of the real "hitters", but always in the game. I get it out to Milan perhaps 5 or 6 times a year - - usually on Friday nights.
It currently has a new 505 inch FE, based on a Genesis block, cast Scat crank, Edelbrock heads, and a bunch of Speed-Pro stuff (I work at Federal-Mogul).
The Hot Rod guys liked the engine concept enough that it will be covered in the July issue. As a courtesy to them I'll have to keep somewhat mum about the specs until the issue comes out in a few weeks.
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| | | RE: thanks for the post -- giacamo, 05/11/2004
a torino in the 10,s very inpresive. |
| | RE: here's an interesting post from another forum -- Barry R, 05/12/2004
Thats me (and my car).
The car is a 3600 lb '69 Torino notchback.
505 FE, Ebok heads, solid roller
C6, 4.56 rear, coil over ladder bar, 13" DOT's
The package is street driveable - but not for anything approaching normal driving. Its very loud, kinda hair trigger, and lacks any sort of creature comforts. In other words its "just right" for an old Detroit street racer like myself.
The engine build will appear in Hot Rod in 3 weeks - I can give more detail afterwards.
Thanks,
BR |
| | | RE: here's an interesting post from another forum -- giacamo, 05/12/2004
sound,s like a must read build. the 68 69 styial torino with fe power has allways inpressed me...........on and off the strip..... |
| Anyone got a photo of a 428 harmonic dampner? -- don, 05/10/2004
I think this 428 I just got has had the front balancer changed.It is very thin and doesnt have any counter weight on it.My 390 has a thicker balancer on it.I measured the bore so I know it is a 428 (T-Bird I think,dated 1966)but the guy I got it from put a 390 flywheel on it.I think maybe he changed the balancer too.If anyone knows where I can look up a photo of a stock one online,I would appreciate it. |
| | RE: Anyone got a photo of a 428 harmonic dampner? -- Charlie, 05/10/2004
http://www.dscmotorsport.com/crankshafts.htm
You can look at a new one from DSC motor on this web site. Can't imagine an old one would be different. Dennis sells good quality parts. |
| | RE: Anyone got a photo of a 428 harmonic dampner? -- don, 05/10/2004
Thanks |
| modified a 390 -- filiot, 05/10/2004
Hi, does it is possible to modified a 390 into a 428 cj?Pleas tell me what i must do if it's possible,thanks. |
| | RE: modified a 390 -- Gerry Proctor, 05/10/2004
Well you can go here to identify all the parts that you'll need: http://www.428cobrajet.com/id-main.html
But this assumes that your 4.05" bore block can go 80 out to 4.13" which is usually not possible to do and maintain bore integrity. Then you have to get the 428 (or 410) crank and the right CJ rods. Of course, you'll need the CJ heads and intake as well as the CJ exhaust manifolds.
In the end, if you can do all of this, all you'll have is a tarted-up 390. It's a far more doable prospect to modify the 390 to equal or exceed the 428CJ in output without fussing over the displacement. Very easy to to. |
| | | RE: modified a 390 -- Lucas, 05/14/2004
Gerry is right. Forget the attempt to build a 428 from a 390 block. The shorter stroke of the 390 will allow higher rpm, but less torque than the longer stroke 428. Here's what works for me in my Cobra replica (2600#,
4 speed toploader, 3.50 rear) 390 block, magnafluxed and pressure tested. Bored .040 over, 390 cast crank, cleaned up,
chamfered and polished, stock 390 rods magnafluxed, balanced and resized, with ARP bolts, 9.8:1 pistons, Reed hydraulic camshaft
with .568" lift, Edelbrock Performer RPM Heads, Comp cams roller rockers ,Edelbrock Performer RPM intake with 850 Holley carb. and KN filter. Makes about 430 HP on 93 octane unleaded. |
| 4-speed trans -- Tim P., 05/09/2004
Is there a 4- speed for 390 to fit a truck thats not setup as a creeper gear in 1st is ther a setup as such? |
| | Sure, but depends on truck and year n/m -- Lou, 05/10/2004
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| | RE: 4-speed trans -- Tim P., 05/11/2004
I Have a 68 F-100 390what tranny options are there for this set up |
| Exhaust, Tires--'66 Fairlane 390 -- Joe K., 05/09/2004
Gents,
As some of you may have realized, I did get that 1966 Fairlane 500 2-Door hardtop I mentioned a few months ago. We picked it up for $1000...solid body, never wrecked, interior needed only some repainting where surface bubbling had affected some of the painted areas...and it needed new carpet. Well, it has been painted now--PPG black urethane enamel basecoat + 4 coats of clear. It's also running pretty well, and we did rebuilt the whole brake system basically.
I was wondering what kind of exhaust you would recommend for the 390 2bbl. I will eventually upgrade to a 4bbl, but can't afford it right now (I'm 18 and about to enter college at the University of Georgia--Go Dawgs!). I would like to run some FPA long tube headers and 2.5" or possibly 3" pipes with Magnaflow mufflers...does anyone second this combination? Does anyone disagree?
The 'Lane is shod with 15x7 Magnum 500s...will a 255 70/15 tire fit on the rear? I'd really like to fill the wheel wells up without going to a drag radial, since this is my daily driver. I'm running 225 60/15 BFG TA's on the front.
Any responses are appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe Knight |
| | congrats on the fairlane` -- dennie, 05/09/2004
I love these 66-67 intermediates, i was actually looking for one when i saw the ad for a 67 caliente, i thought i knew most ford/merc models.. well anyways if you have power steering as i do the headers are a big problem. you can drop the cylinder and they will fit. As for the wheels http://woodyg.com/fairlane/ has a tire size chart and a few of the guys are running 255/60/15s so i assume you'll be ok.by the way is that an H code 66 fairlane?? |
| | | RE: congrats on the fairlane` -- Boidman Of ATL, 05/09/2004
If you are going to keep the engine stock ,do not change to a 4bbl as the 2bbl is better suited to the engine.Too many carbs can also be fattening for an engine if you dont have the true need for them. |
| | Don't for get the . . . -- Orin, 05/10/2004
. . X or H pipe with that new exhaust.
Also, those 255-size tires you're eyeing will cut down your gas mileage -- more rubber on the road = more resistence = more fuel consumption. As a college student I KNOW you're familiar with that formula. :-) You may want to stay with the 225s instead.
I have a 67 Fairlane (V=8, but NOT and FE) that I'll be running 215s or 225s on when I'm done. |
| | RE: Exhaust, Tires--'66 Fairlane 390 -- Gerry Proctor, 05/10/2004
Flowmasters makes an American Thunder exhaust system for your car. Includes everything but a downpipe to connect up to the manifolds. You'd have to visit a muffler shop to have a downpipe fabricated to fit the system.
Money could be an issue. Kit goes for about $300.00 but it is a quality mandrel-bent 2.5" system.
Tires are iffy depending on what rims you run. You can go 255 on the rear but you need to pay attention to the rim offset. You'll won't be able to go that wide on the front and maintain your turning radius. |
| distibutor gear -- 67 hotcomet, 05/08/2004
i have a 1967 390 that has munched 2 distributor gears.about 4 teeth right next to each other are gone.
does anyone know what could cause this?
i think its either a bad cam gear or the oil pump is binding up?
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| | Sure - intermittently bound oil pump would do it. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/09/2004
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| | RE: distibutor gear -- giacamo, 05/09/2004
hi press oil pump, pump jamming from debris |
| Will a 390 flywheel on a 428 cause damage?n/m -- don, 05/08/2004
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