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Let's estimate: Good, crack free, standard bore '63/'64 Center Oiler block: $1,200; true '63 low riser heads in crack free, good condition: $1,000; induction (less correct air cleaner?): $1,000; that's about all that I can tell is there. A C3AZ solid lifter cam is available new from Crane or Comp. Oh, correct harmonic balancer is probably worth: $300. A center oiler crank: $200(A nice standard 390 cranks works real well); low riser rods: $100. All of these prices are my opinionated estimates based on limited market research. Your opinions may vary wildly. So not counting a cam my estimate is $3,800. Machine work is mentioned and that may be a $1,000 worth? So if you like to gamble $5K on an engine you know nothing about.........not me.
BTW, those '65/'66/very early '67 valve covers will not work with adjustable rockers. They might be '66 Farilane GT or GTA because they're chrome. Chrome or not they're only good for standard non-adjustable rockers because they're too short. Maybe you could stack vc gaskets until the rockers would quit banging? Again, not me and just my thoughts/opinions.

I think you may have a '64 transplant in that bird. The C3AF block is probably a carry over from '63 with the very common '64-'65 C4AE-G heads. Then again it could be a '63 engine that someone has installed a different year set of heads on. Probably a 390 but it may be a 352? Won't know until you tear it down.

my interchange manual says that the head is a 351 390 High Performance head

I appreciate your warning - thanks. Meanwhile, here's some extra info to help the other readers: Look out gals and guys. Someone sent me an email with a 40k virus attached. Actually, that filename is linked with a fairly new bug known as W32/Badtrans. There are two variants, one of which (".b", "-B" or "PWS-Hooker") includes a password-stealing Trojan that may or may not work. Check out this page for more info, including a fix: Badtrans-B Worm Info But whatever its name, I'm glad you were able to intercept it. And I thought it might be instructive to point out that it wasn't sent via our server. Nor was it sent as a result of posting here....at least, not directly. I'll explain in a moment... This is the only place that I use junk_yard_racing@hotmail.com for. Darn, and I thought I was going to get to see Brian nude LOL Must be one of those low-life Chebby FOOLS doing it. This worm attacks local computers running Outlook or Outlook Express.   It sends a copy of itself to anyone in the user's Address Book and some related folders. So, its clear that somebody had your "junk_yard" mailto on their local hard drive. Perhaps you've accidentally used it somewhere else....or maybe to send a private eMail to someone here? How the guy from Denmark got it is anyone's guess but that's a good reason to never "forward" eMails to a long list of addressees. Hope this info helps. Mr F

How could a peson go broke doing something as simple as installing an FE where it never was before? You must have bucks to start a project like this. Actually it's no more difficult than putting an FE into any Ford not equipped with such originally. So have some economical fun....go find FE brackets/mounts from any 390/428 Fairlane/Comet/Torino/Montego. Then get the radiator and the little special brackets that go with it. Oh, get the trans cross member too. I think you might need that. How about the suspension of that 6 poppin' Falcon? Neat huh? You should have something heftier than those springs & brakes & spindles that offer you cute 4 lug wheel attachment. Why don't you just take all the front suspension pieces from that donor unibody FE car while you're getting those brackets/mounts? How about the little spicer rear end in that fine '69? Yup, it might even be an 8" which will last a couple of hard starts with the 428 before you pull the pinion right through the 8" case. So, get that 9" housing while you are picking over that FE 'lane, etc.

It can all be done SLiDer. It has been many times. Crites Restorations even makes the brackets/mounts you'll need to set that 428 between to shock towers of that '69. I don't know what your budget is. But you will need some cash to put this together in a safe way.

Also, those '64 rods should be okay with good preparation and an ARP bolts/nut kit. They're the right length rods. You'll need the 428, 4.13 bore pistons and new pins. And that '28 crank (cheap)...? Speaking of budgets it sounds like you might be working on a tight one. Many of us are. Just think about the reality of this dream before you go a lot further. Then again, it takes a dream to get it things going. And I've always thought the '66-'69 Falcons offer a great short wheel base for a big block car. Install a Fairlane nose and you have a nice looking "Faircon".

Look at the side of the block. I'll say *most* 427's had screw-in, instead of push-in, freeze plugs.

Also look at the casting # of the heads. If it's an original engine (good luck!) the heads on 427's were unique, I believe.
Check casting # on the side of the block, f one exists. Date codes, etc, can be helpful also.

Others might have other ideas, as well.

Hope this helps some!

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<I think that just post this somewhere else by accident> Yes, they are junk heads,,,tiny ports, tiny valves, etc. Dont bid on them so I can get them cheaper as the gigh bidder. Just kidding. I have just searched the archives looking for info on these $3 ebay heads. There is very little info there. Hers some of what I found... RE: C3AE-C cc? by Travis Miller One thing needs to be discussed here. By small combustion chamber, are we meaning the ones with the rounded corners? I call the chambers in a C1AE-A head with the two square corners, the large non-performance chamber. RE: FE Head info wanted by Greg B My book shows C1AE-A as being 352/390 1961-63 71cc-74cc chambers 2.02"intake valve 1.55" exhaust valves Others may have more info

It's a good head to start with if your not in the numbers game. It's a tall port low riser and will accept 2.09 x 1.65 or 1.72 valves, this particular head I've seen on 61 H.P. 390's and T birds. I would not pay more than $100 at a wreckers, when finished you diffinitly will be surprised at the performance. P.S. Don't worry about the chambers, there OK to.

Like I said Tom don't get in the in numbers game, that particular head will make big H.P. when your done. It's good head to start with, I'am currenly working on a 61 T Bird engine in our shop with that particular head on it ! It's an original owner car, and when we'ar done with the engine. I would like to see some of these so called numbers people bring there hot rod over to compare there! H.P numbers. Ray Tirri