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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21534&Reply=21534><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Cast Iron Headers</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dana, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a set of what I think to be "performance" option cast iron headers from 1960 or 1961... to my knowledge these will fit the big blocks of the time and they dump out forward of the aftmost cylinder.  Does anyone know of these or where I could get a positive id?  </blockquote> Cast Iron Headers -- Dana, 05/19/2004
I have a set of what I think to be "performance" option cast iron headers from 1960 or 1961... to my knowledge these will fit the big blocks of the time and they dump out forward of the aftmost cylinder. Does anyone know of these or where I could get a positive id?
 RE: Cast Iron Headers -- David, 05/19/2004
Dana it sounds like the preformance cast headers used on the FE's. Look for the casting #'s as that can help ID them. Also check in a few books that cover the Ford FE as most likely they will have a picture of them in there.
Someone here should be able to help you with the casting # ID.
 RE:'60 HP 352 on.. -- McQ, 05/19/2004
You probably have a set of the "shorty" HP exhaust manifolds. The first application was the 1960 High Performance 352-360 horsepower; then 1961-62 390 HP/375 or 401 horsepower plus the 390 Interceptor; the '62 and '63 406 combinations. Even after the "long" HP manifolds were introduced in mid '63 with the 427, they continued to be used through '64 on 390 Interceptor Police package engines that were rated at 330 horsepower.

They're very good exhaust manifolds that will fit all full size Ford/Mercs from '60-'64. They do not fit '65 and later without modifications and they won't fit unibody cars with stock steering/suspension.
 RE: Cast Iron Headers -- Dana, 05/20/2004
Hey, thanks so much fellows! I will check those casting numbers and have a look at some books at the local bookseller....
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21533&Reply=21533><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Headers</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Kowalski, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>O.K Boys, <br>I have a 67 - 390 in a 54 ford Customline. I'm trying to update from my exhaust manifolds to a set of headers. I need a set that hug the block tight Any Suggestions?<br> </blockquote> Headers -- Kowalski, 05/19/2004
O.K Boys,
I have a 67 - 390 in a 54 ford Customline. I'm trying to update from my exhaust manifolds to a set of headers. I need a set that hug the block tight Any Suggestions?
 RE: Headers -- 390ranger, 05/20/2004
sanderson headers maybe able to help of FPT(ford power train)
both have websites. get ready to pay for them may want to be sitting down when you read the price. But if you are into FE's you probably are numb to it anyways.
 RE: Headers -- Bob, 06/13/2004
I am running a 390 in a 1955 ford. The only problem is I am using a El Camino frame. What I bought was a set of f150 two whell drive somthing from the 70's with a 390 or 360 block in it. They are shortys and block huggers. They work fine in my round track car. Hope this helps. Bought mine from Summit for 150.00.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21818&Reply=21533><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Headers</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>06/14/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hedman made a set of headers many years that works for this application.  If you are patient and watch ebay they come up occasionally.<br><br>They're a two piece set.  A casting bolts to the head with a steel flange where the steel tubes/flange bolt to with a gasket.  They're funky looking but cool too.  And they're tight to the block.  They'll fit just about any engine compartment where you can squeeze in an FE.<br><br>But again you have to be patient. 390ranger's advice of contacting FPA, isn't it Ford Power Applications? might be the best bet. </blockquote> RE: Headers -- McQ, 06/14/2004
Hedman made a set of headers many years that works for this application. If you are patient and watch ebay they come up occasionally.

They're a two piece set. A casting bolts to the head with a steel flange where the steel tubes/flange bolt to with a gasket. They're funky looking but cool too. And they're tight to the block. They'll fit just about any engine compartment where you can squeeze in an FE.

But again you have to be patient. 390ranger's advice of contacting FPA, isn't it Ford Power Applications? might be the best bet.
 RE: Headers -- FPA Racing, 01/05/2005
Yes FPA has a shorty for a 54 Ford with the FE. They even work with the Fat Man power Rack and pinion conversion
 Free FE Stuff in Vancouver, Canada -- Ian Dobson, 05/19/2004
Ok I'm gonna chuck this stuff away in a week but I thought I'd see if anyone wanted it first. You never know..

I have a truck oilpan and the flat metal plate that goes between the engine and the transmission, maybe some other bits but I can't remember. Wouldn't be much though.

I live in Vancouver, Canada and I'm not shipping it anywhere.

Just reply to this post with either your local phone number or email address and I'll get a hold of you :)
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21519&Reply=21519><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>C8AX-C Cam</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Tony, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Does anyone know of a aftermarket cam manufacture that makes a replica grind to the C8AX-C Cam? </blockquote> C8AX-C Cam -- Tony, 05/18/2004
Does anyone know of a aftermarket cam manufacture that makes a replica grind to the C8AX-C Cam?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21522&Reply=21519><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: C8AX-C Cam</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Try Oregon Cam Grinders.  Just enter that on a google search and you'll fine them.  They grind all the FE cams and they're FE fans. </blockquote> RE: C8AX-C Cam -- McQ, 05/19/2004
Try Oregon Cam Grinders. Just enter that on a google search and you'll fine them. They grind all the FE cams and they're FE fans.
 RE: C8AX-C Cam -- David, 05/19/2004
Tony also check Cam Research. They are listed in the back of the Mustangs & Ford mags. Their # is. 1-303-762-0022. Hope you can find what you are looking for.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21516&Reply=21516><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>1966 390 Lifter Mystery?  HELP!!</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>olddustyrelics, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I'm working on a 67 Ford 390 engine. The problem is the engine bends a pushrod on the intake of the Driver's side rear cylinder. It does not knock, but it of course ticks and runs rough because the intake valve is not functioning properly on that cylinder. I pulled the pushrod out and the lifter was solid. It was the opposite of collapsed. I could not get it to compress or go down even with a ton of pressure. It was acting like a solid lifter. I checked the intake valve and it goes up and down smoothly. The rocker arms move on the rod easily. There is plenty of lubrication. The piston is moving up and down in the cylinder. I replaced the lifter with another new one that did compress fine, primed it, installed it and fired up the engine. The same thing happened almost immedaitely. <br><br>The question: What are all of the things that could cause a lifter to go "stiff" and bend a pushrod like that? </blockquote> 1966 390 Lifter Mystery? HELP!! -- olddustyrelics, 05/18/2004
I'm working on a 67 Ford 390 engine. The problem is the engine bends a pushrod on the intake of the Driver's side rear cylinder. It does not knock, but it of course ticks and runs rough because the intake valve is not functioning properly on that cylinder. I pulled the pushrod out and the lifter was solid. It was the opposite of collapsed. I could not get it to compress or go down even with a ton of pressure. It was acting like a solid lifter. I checked the intake valve and it goes up and down smoothly. The rocker arms move on the rod easily. There is plenty of lubrication. The piston is moving up and down in the cylinder. I replaced the lifter with another new one that did compress fine, primed it, installed it and fired up the engine. The same thing happened almost immedaitely.

The question: What are all of the things that could cause a lifter to go "stiff" and bend a pushrod like that?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21523&Reply=21516><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Could either lifter or bore be out-of-round...damaged? [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> Could either lifter or bore be out-of-round...damaged? [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/19/2004
n/m
 RE: Could either lifter or bore be out-of-round...damaged? [n/m] -- olddustyrelics, 05/19/2004
The lifter looked fine once out. The new one I replaced it with cam out looking fine too but neither would compress anymore. I pulled them out with the heads on using a lifter pull tool and can not see too much inside but they seemed like they were nice and straight when they pulled out of the lifter sleeve.
 RE: 1966 390 Lifter Mystery? HELP!! -- kevin, 05/19/2004
Just a thought, but you might want to check your valve/ valve guide. If the valve sticks (will not move period) the push rod will bend then the lifter will pump-up trying to take up slack, of course there is more slack than it can correct for, so the lifter is fulling pumped? I had a Cleveland doing almost the same. Valve guides were set up to tight and it would bend several push rods, but I don't remember having lifter problems.
 RE: 1966 390 Lifter Mystery? HELP!! -- giacamo, 05/20/2004
check your springs the damper spring iner spring may be broke or bent binding everything up?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21509&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>62 352 Paint color (code?)</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gary Adam, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Just bought a sweet 62 Galaxie with a 352 2V.<br>My book says block should be black. After<br>steam cleaning, I find the block and heads are<br>actually a gold, maybe beige color. Possiby<br>even a hint of metallic? This is a very original<br>car with original paint/upolstery/windshield so<br>I feel it is still original color on the engine. Also<br>this is a Canadian car,(I'm in Canada) if that<br>may make the difference. Any info or paint<br>codes or brand of paint to look for to bring 'er<br>back to original color. Many thanks in advance!<br>                            Gary Adam<br> </blockquote> 62 352 Paint color (code?) -- Gary Adam, 05/18/2004
Just bought a sweet 62 Galaxie with a 352 2V.
My book says block should be black. After
steam cleaning, I find the block and heads are
actually a gold, maybe beige color. Possiby
even a hint of metallic? This is a very original
car with original paint/upolstery/windshield so
I feel it is still original color on the engine. Also
this is a Canadian car,(I'm in Canada) if that
may make the difference. Any info or paint
codes or brand of paint to look for to bring 'er
back to original color. Many thanks in advance!
Gary Adam
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21513&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: 62 352 Paint color (code?)</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Tony P., <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Adam, check with Greg Donahue in Florida he specializes in Galaxies and is probably the #1 expert on these.<br>(352) 344-4329 </blockquote> RE: 62 352 Paint color (code?) -- Tony P., 05/18/2004
Adam, check with Greg Donahue in Florida he specializes in Galaxies and is probably the #1 expert on these.
(352) 344-4329
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21520&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: 62 352 Paint color (code?)</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I'm not a #1 expert but I can tell you the color scheme on a stock '62 Galaxie, 352-2V, U.S. production.  It had a black block, heads with blue valve covers and air cleaner.<br><br>I didn't think the Canadian production cars had different color engines but then again there were definite unique differences, i.e., valve cover styles.<br><br>It's a possibility that your 352 was rebuilt at one time and the builder, engine shop or whoever may have painted the new color.<br><br>Then again maybe we'll learn something here....I'm always ready for that. </blockquote> RE: 62 352 Paint color (code?) -- McQ, 05/19/2004
I'm not a #1 expert but I can tell you the color scheme on a stock '62 Galaxie, 352-2V, U.S. production. It had a black block, heads with blue valve covers and air cleaner.

I didn't think the Canadian production cars had different color engines but then again there were definite unique differences, i.e., valve cover styles.

It's a possibility that your 352 was rebuilt at one time and the builder, engine shop or whoever may have painted the new color.

Then again maybe we'll learn something here....I'm always ready for that.
 Better re-think that supposition about engine-color... -- Mr F, 05/19/2004
http://jcoconsulting.com/forumfe/reply.aspx?ID=14602&Reply=14528
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21525&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>And here's lots more info on North-of-the-Border oddities...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote><a href="http://www.jcoconsulting.com/ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=61174&Reply=61161">http://www.jcoconsulting.com/ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=61174&Reply=61161</a> </blockquote> And here's lots more info on North-of-the-Border oddities... -- Mr F, 05/19/2004
http://www.jcoconsulting.com/ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=61174&Reply=61161
 352 paint color -- Thanks -- Gary Adam, 05/19/2004
Thanks for the help. I will make some calls and check with some Galaxie guys at our local
car meets. One fellow has already told me he
thought only 390's came with gold paint. By the way, the air cleaner is a sort of grey
metallic color, and the valve covers are pale
green color. They don't appear to have been
repainted. Maybe the valve covers are faded,
but have a definite pale green hue. Now I'm
gonna do some more checking in to this, but
62's are very scarce around here. Thanks.
Gary
(62 Galaxie 500 - 352 2V)
(68 Cougar XR-7 -- 390 S code)
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21564&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Turns out your current colors are prob. right. 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/></blockquote> Turns out your current colors are prob. right. Here's '62 image.... -- Mr F, 05/20/2004
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 RE:like I said.. -- McQ, 05/21/2004
I'm always ready to learn something new and this is definitely something I didn't know.

Thanks Gary for the question and thanks Mr. F for the research and picture of proof.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21565&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>If you like, I can get mix-codes for a few $$ in research time...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>05/20/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote><a href="http://fomoco.com/contact-fomoco-obsolete.shtml">http://fomoco.com/contact-fomoco-obsolete.shtml</a> </blockquote> If you like, I can get mix-codes for a few $$ in research time... -- Mr F, 05/20/2004
http://fomoco.com/contact-fomoco-obsolete.shtml
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21577&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>You guys are the best!</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gary Adam, <i>05/21/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I knew I'd get the right answer here. I was at a car meet last night and others that have had<br>Galaxies told be they had seen gold 352 engines before. So thanks sooo much for the effort Mr F! <br><br>So I wonder, is this another one of the so called "Canadian Oddities" or was there also ''goldies'' in the U.S.A. too? So, Mr F, what is the scoop on getting the paint code? I sure would like to paint it correctly. Hey, once again, thanks very much for the help! </blockquote> You guys are the best! -- Gary Adam, 05/21/2004
I knew I'd get the right answer here. I was at a car meet last night and others that have had
Galaxies told be they had seen gold 352 engines before. So thanks sooo much for the effort Mr F!

So I wonder, is this another one of the so called "Canadian Oddities" or was there also ''goldies'' in the U.S.A. too? So, Mr F, what is the scoop on getting the paint code? I sure would like to paint it correctly. Hey, once again, thanks very much for the help!
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21585&Reply=21509><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Just checking to see if you got my eMail. [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>05/22/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> Just checking to see if you got my eMail. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/22/2004
n/m
 RE: Just checking to see if you got my eMail. [n/m] -- Gary Adam, 05/27/2004
Mr. F, I did receive your e-mail, but I haven't
been able to send to you with the reply tab.
Can you send me your e-mail address and I'll
try manual address send. Thanks. Gary
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21508&Reply=21508><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Which Gears for my Galaxie 390</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>joe, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a stock rear-end in my 66 galaxie (3.00 gears?)  I am planning on changing it to improve performance.  I will be doing mostly street driving 30-45 MPH,  but yes a few Highway trips.  I also am prone to bunning some rubber!   The transmission is new with 2500 stall.  390 engine is about 325-350 hp.  What gears will I be happy with?   </blockquote> Which Gears for my Galaxie 390 -- joe, 05/18/2004
I have a stock rear-end in my 66 galaxie (3.00 gears?) I am planning on changing it to improve performance. I will be doing mostly street driving 30-45 MPH, but yes a few Highway trips. I also am prone to bunning some rubber! The transmission is new with 2500 stall. 390 engine is about 325-350 hp. What gears will I be happy with?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21514&Reply=21508><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Which Gears for my Galaxie 390</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>350,s easy to find and a posie ford made alot of pickups with 350,s </blockquote> RE: Which Gears for my Galaxie 390 -- giacamo, 05/18/2004
350,s easy to find and a posie ford made alot of pickups with 350,s
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21521&Reply=21508><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Which Gears for my Galaxie 390</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I'll second giacomo's rec here.  You'll find 3.50's just right for your Galaxie.  I'm running that ratio in my '68 F100 with a 390GT engine/C6.  Great all around combination. </blockquote> RE: Which Gears for my Galaxie 390 -- McQ, 05/19/2004
I'll second giacomo's rec here. You'll find 3.50's just right for your Galaxie. I'm running that ratio in my '68 F100 with a 390GT engine/C6. Great all around combination.
 Thanks - I'll go with 3.50 gears! -- joe, 05/19/2004
3.50 gears sounds like the way to go. Thanks
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21545&Reply=21508><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Which Gears for my Galaxie 390</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>K-SKI, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hey Mc Q I've got a 65 f100 with 3.50 gears and was wondering if in that year it was 28 or 31 spline axles? Would anyone know?  </blockquote> RE: Which Gears for my Galaxie 390 -- K-SKI, 05/19/2004
Hey Mc Q I've got a 65 f100 with 3.50 gears and was wondering if in that year it was 28 or 31 spline axles? Would anyone know?
 RE: 28 spline -- McQ, 05/19/2004
I'm very certain that your '65 F100 has 28 spline axles. It's extremely easy to find out.....jack 'er up, pull of a rear drum, remove four nuts, pull the axle, count the splines. It's that easy.

I also had a '66 F100 352/3 speed stick years ago. It had 28 spline axles.

My '68 F100 has 28 spline too.

The 28 spline axles are pretty standard and common throughout the sixties.

I have little experience with 70's/up but I've heard that some half tons with 460s may have 31 spline axles.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21507&Reply=21507><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>PCV on 390 drivers side or passenger side?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Steve M, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I am having a brain fart here. Does the pcv valve go into the carb from the drivers side valve cover, or the passenger side cover? I have it in the passengers side right now and when I get heavy with the foot I can smell oil fumes, so I am thinking I have it backwards. I also have some oil mist on the outside of the valve cover.  </blockquote> PCV on 390 drivers side or passenger side? -- Steve M, 05/18/2004
I am having a brain fart here. Does the pcv valve go into the carb from the drivers side valve cover, or the passenger side cover? I have it in the passengers side right now and when I get heavy with the foot I can smell oil fumes, so I am thinking I have it backwards. I also have some oil mist on the outside of the valve cover.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21510&Reply=21507><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Doesn't matter but....</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Royce Peterson, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Originally it was in the passenger side. The driver side was a vented cap.<br><br>Royce<br> </blockquote> Doesn't matter but.... -- Royce Peterson, 05/18/2004
Originally it was in the passenger side. The driver side was a vented cap.

Royce
 RE: Doesn't matter but.... -- Steve, 05/18/2004
That is good news to here, now I have to figure out where this oil is coming from
 Check the PCV hose & valve-grommet for snug fit. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/19/2004
n/m
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21506&Reply=21506><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Ford fan and clutch</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mark Smith, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hello,i would like a ford fan and clutch decoded if possible for selling on E Bay.We cleaned out my dad's old garage and found this fan and clutch.He used to race a 69 Torino and 69 Mach 1,both scj 428,The fan has 913770 J74  S-C8SF-C ON IT AND THE CLUTCH HAS  E-C9AE-D  THE CLUTCH HAS SOME TIGHT SPOTS BUT IT HAS SET OVER 30 YEARS AND THE FAN IS ABOUT 18 INCH DIAMETER WITH 7 BLADES.tHANKS FOR ANY HELK.MARK </blockquote> Ford fan and clutch -- Mark Smith, 05/18/2004
Hello,i would like a ford fan and clutch decoded if possible for selling on E Bay.We cleaned out my dad's old garage and found this fan and clutch.He used to race a 69 Torino and 69 Mach 1,both scj 428,The fan has 913770 J74 S-C8SF-C ON IT AND THE CLUTCH HAS E-C9AE-D THE CLUTCH HAS SOME TIGHT SPOTS BUT IT HAS SET OVER 30 YEARS AND THE FAN IS ABOUT 18 INCH DIAMETER WITH 7 BLADES.tHANKS FOR ANY HELK.MARK
 Don't think it is for a 428 CJ -- Royce Peterson, 05/18/2004
Look here:
http://www.428cobrajet.com/id-fan.html

By the numbers you give it sounds like a '69 Thunderbird fan but might also fit full size Ford or Mercury.

Royce
 Original application is 1968-1969 Thunderbird, 429 & A/C. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/19/2004
n/m
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21505&Reply=21505><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Holley or Edelbrock ?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Jay, <i>05/17/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>What carb do you guys like to run and which one do you feel gives better performance? My 390 is mildly built with flat tops, cj valves in c8 heads, rpm intake, roller rockers, and a cam with 210 int and 217 exh. at @ .050. What cfm would you use? </blockquote> Holley or Edelbrock ? -- Jay, 05/17/2004
What carb do you guys like to run and which one do you feel gives better performance? My 390 is mildly built with flat tops, cj valves in c8 heads, rpm intake, roller rockers, and a cam with 210 int and 217 exh. at @ .050. What cfm would you use?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21515&Reply=21505><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Holley or Edelbrock ?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>05/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>650 eather.holley or edelbrock i like the holleys but i have alot of holley parts to play with. </blockquote> RE: Holley or Edelbrock ? -- giacamo, 05/18/2004
650 eather.holley or edelbrock i like the holleys but i have alot of holley parts to play with.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=21529&Reply=21505><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Holley or Edelbrock ?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>05/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>It's a tough choice really.  I've had good luck with Holleys when they're new or remanufactured by Joe Bunetic.  I also had good performance from a stock CJ 735 with just a kit.  <br><br>But I have to say that the Edelbrocks are very nice to work on and easy to fine tune using their provided booklet.  If you get stuck or have a problem their tech line people are excellent to work with too.  <br><br>I don't think E'brock makes a 650 but they do offer a 600 and then a 750 and then their newest 800.  I think I'd stay with the 600 as giacomo recommends.  <br><br>I ran a 750 manual choke on a CJ with great success.  A very nice carb that I tuned myself by changing primary jets, metering rods and step up springs.  It had to have been easy because I was able to do it without any problem.  I did have a bog-stumble under hard acceleration from the line but a call to Edelbrock's tech was all it took.  I did have to buy a Edelbrock carb tuning kit but it wasn't very expensive.<br><br>I doubt that we've helped you but good luck.  That's the fun & joy of hot rodding. </blockquote> RE: Holley or Edelbrock ? -- McQ, 05/19/2004
It's a tough choice really. I've had good luck with Holleys when they're new or remanufactured by Joe Bunetic. I also had good performance from a stock CJ 735 with just a kit.

But I have to say that the Edelbrocks are very nice to work on and easy to fine tune using their provided booklet. If you get stuck or have a problem their tech line people are excellent to work with too.

I don't think E'brock makes a 650 but they do offer a 600 and then a 750 and then their newest 800. I think I'd stay with the 600 as giacomo recommends.

I ran a 750 manual choke on a CJ with great success. A very nice carb that I tuned myself by changing primary jets, metering rods and step up springs. It had to have been easy because I was able to do it without any problem. I did have a bog-stumble under hard acceleration from the line but a call to Edelbrock's tech was all it took. I did have to buy a Edelbrock carb tuning kit but it wasn't very expensive.

I doubt that we've helped you but good luck. That's the fun & joy of hot rodding.
 RE: Holley or Edelbrock ? -- David, 05/19/2004
Now mind you I am an Autolite 4100 guy all the way & that is what my built 390 is getting. But from what I have heard is that out of the box the Edelbrock makes more power but if you tune the Holley properly you will make more HP. Now if you are interested in the Autolite you can check the Ford carb fourm they deal with all Ford carbs but are 4100 & 2100 Autolite nuts. Also you can check out Pony Carburetors.
Now if I were to try a Holley I would try out their new truck carbs. They claim/offer better torque & several other improvments. Which sound perfect for cars or trucks. And I just saw I one of the car mags suggest the same thing. I was thinking this ever since that carb first came out. But for now I am sitcking with my Ford built Autolite 4100's for reliability & preformance.
I agree with the CFM suggestions though. I wouldn't go over 650CFM. Too many people over carb their engines which cost them preformance & power.
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