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 |  FE into 83or later Ranger -- Rich, 06/13/2006
Any one know where I can purchase swap kit I plan on building fun brackrt car. |
|  | RE: Only place an FE fits easily.. -- Dave72, 06/13/2006
in a Ranger is in the bed. Kits are availble for 302's. 351W's fit with a bunch of fabrication. FE's wopuld require a complete front frame, firewall. rad support and susp. rework. |
|  | RE: FE into 83or later Ranger -- Rich, 06/13/2006
I assumed since I see several 460 in ranger conversions that someone might havecome up with one. |
| | | A 4.6 would be a better choice, if you -- Lou, 06/13/2006
are going to due that much work, you might as well move away from 1960s engineering. |
| | | | RE: A 4.6 would be a better choice, if you -- Rich, 06/14/2006
Thanks but im a die hard FE fan |
| | | |  | I love FEs too but, go is go, however, -- Lou, 06/15/2006
I have a nice 1960 352 HiPo engine complete carb to pan, 44,000 mile when taken out og car 2 year ago. $1200.00. Can deliver with in 200 miles. |
 | 428 pi -- kylem, 06/12/2006
I getting an engine ready for my 68 GT500 (owned for 24 year), orig. engine gone. Have a 428 CJ. Want to use that short block but with correct heads and exaust mans., what am I looking for? How do I ID 428 PI Heads and exaust mans?
Thanks,
Kylem |
| 428 CJ rebuild questions -- Daryl, 06/11/2006
Hello all. I have a 69 mach 1 with a 428 CJ that is in need of a rebuild. It doesnt smoke until its warm, and then its like a mosquito fogger. My question is, what is the best route to go for a rebuild? I was planning on a 428 CJ kit that Maddog sells for 600.00, having it bored .030', the crank .010". Ive heard the Cjs had oil issues, and bad pistons, is this true. Im planning on using an Edelbrock performer RPM cam kit, what will I need for rockers etc, or will stock be ok? Its going to be driven fairly nice, but I dont want it to scatter all over the road, so should I balance the package? have the crank champfered, oil holes enlargened? Im using a PI intake, Holley 735 carb. Im going to have the heads magnafluxed along with the block too. any other things I need to do for the 428? Thanks much.. |
| | Well, Daryl, it's hard to know where to begin. -- Gerry Proctor, 06/12/2006
Your mosquito fogger could be due to stuck rings. You'd want to do a compression and/or leakdown test to get a feel for the wellness of your engine. If it's just stuck rings, which is quite common in cars that don't get used a lot, then you can un-stick them with a good soak of Marvel Mystery Oil or one of the other solvents.
I would not cheap out on a rebuild if that's the direction you're headed. You will spend a lot more by going to quality hyperutectic or forged name-brand pistons, rings, bearings, and gaskets, but you'll add value to the car by going this route.
What you've heard regarding bad pistons and oiling issues is not true. There are desireable oiling system improvements but they're not necessary in most cases.
I would avoid the Performer RPM cam. There are much better cams out there that don't require adjustable rockers. But it would be hard to make any round-about recommendations since you have provided few details on the rest of the car or how you'd be using it and what your concerns are.
Your machinist would probably be in a better position to advise you in whether you want to go internal balance or keep it external. You'd need a new detroit balance anyway with the new pistons.
If you do the rebuild, just a regular cut and polish of the crank will suffice. |
| | | RE: Well, Daryl, it's hard to know where to begin. -- Daryl, 06/12/2006
Thanks for the reply. Its an automatic with 3.9o gears, has a slightly higher stall converter, and I will not be revving it past 5000, most likely. What cams are good for everyday cruising, without having to install high buck rockers? The kit I was looking at has forged slugs & clevite bearings, moly rings. ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/428-Ford-FE-CJ-Cobra-Jet-forged-engine-kit-TRW-pistons_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33620QQitemZ8029107006), look and see if you would use this kit. As for the smoke, its in need of a rebuild anyways, it has a slight knock in the lower end, and I dont know the history of the engine, so I prefer to have it rebuilt. the car is in great shape, so the engine should be also. It will be a show/ driver, not concourse of course, but nice when done. Does anyone make a stock profile cam for it? I thought I read that somwhere here. Im going to have hardened seats installed also. I guess I would prefer more torque & mid range than a screamer drag car, so a mild cam will be my choice. Let me know what you think. thanks again. |
| | | | Lots of options for cams. -- Gerry Proctor, 06/13/2006
I suggest that you pick a couple cam companies, call their tech lines and get a recommendation from them.
Comp Cams has a pretty good feel for the street market. I prefer Crane but I think you'll probably do better to focus on Comp. Comp grinds most of their street flat tappet cams with a 110 degree lobe separation angle with makes great off-idle and midrange power without giving up too much on top.
With a 3.91 rear gear, you're going to need to rev more than 5,000 rpm and if you ever stand on it, you get past that rpm pretty quick.
You won't need a fancy rocker set up (adjustable rockers) as long as you keep the lift to around .550 and lower and use standard hydraulic lifters. You see the need for adjustables when lift approaches .600 and/or you use anti-pumpup lifters. You could also use the factory CJ/390GT grind. It's a fair cam but you can do a lot better by today's standards. |
| | | RE: Well, Daryl, it's hard to know where to begin. -- walt, 06/12/2006
i would listen to gerry proctor,from what i see and what i know ,he will not steer you wrong,chamfering the crank,is a standard practice of mine,match your oil holes to the bearings in the block area,but don't go nuts,they are designed with some restriction to spread the oil pressure over the block evenly,as for the camsi had good luck with the crane 260 h cam in my f 250,and crane 270 cam in my friends 67 390 mustang,both applications worked excellent for what we wanted them to do |
| | | | RE: Well, Daryl, it's hard to know where to begin. -- Daryl, 06/13/2006
Thanks Gerry, you obviously know your FEs. I know the rear gear will make it rev quick, but its all from a drag pack car, and I dont want to change it unless I have to. I will have the recip assembly balanced well, use a newer dampener, so hopefully when it does run past 5000, it can stand a chance. Did you get a look at that engine kit, would you use it? I will spend the money for better internals if needed, I just dont want a engine I can see thru. Thanks for the info & replys, its much appreciated! |
| | | | | You don't want me spending your money, Daryl. -- Gerry Proctor, 06/14/2006
Would I do it different? Yes, but that's because we are different.
I'd go with a Diamond racing piston, polish and shot peen the rods, rebush the small ends, ARP the rod bolts, stud the mains, and maybe even cryo the crank. I could drain your wallet real fast.
The parts you want to use will give you a very durable engine. Besides, most success in an overhaul comes from careful machining and assembly. You could easily spin the engine safely to 6,000 rpm all day long with those parts. |
| | | | | | RE: You don't want me spending your money, Daryl. -- Daryl, 06/15/2006
Thanks for all the info. I just have to build up the ambition to pull it out & tear it down now. |
| | | | | | | RE: You don't want me spending your money, Daryl. -- Joe, 06/15/2006
If you are going to do perfomance mods I would also recommend getting end stands for your rocker shaft from Ford Powertrain Applications. The kit also comes with solid spacers. I went with Edelbrock rpm heads and the heavy duty springs they use were too much for the shaft. |
| | | | | | | | RE: You don't want me spending your money, Daryl. -- Daryl, 06/16/2006
thanks for the info, I think I will go with a mild cam, I still want a cruiser car, and its an automatic car. I think a nice rebuild with a good balance job, new dampener, rebuilt heads will suit me fine. I was going to build it hotter, but $$ is short, and I dont need much more than a stock 428CJ had. It goes really good for a tired engine. Thanks |
| | | | | | | | | RE: You don't want me spending your money, Daryl. -- Joe, 06/17/2006
Even if you go with a mild cam I would buy the kit. It is an inexpensive insurance policy. |
| S sp tran -- MARK, 06/11/2006
I just bought a 4 sp out of a 67 the man a bought it from gave me 2 bell housings one is 6" deep the other is 8"
deep i am putting it in a 65 coupe on a 302 which bell housing is right
mark |
| | RE: 4 sp tran -- MARK, 06/11/2006
Sorry 4speed
mark |
| 69 Merc 390 Vacuum Advance -- AJ, 06/11/2006
I know this is not a Mustang, but it is an FE. I have been tinkering with my 69 Merc. The vacuum advance has two ports, The port furthest from the distributor (outside port) is connect to full manifold vacuum. The closest port to the distributor (inner port) is connected to the port on the carb, which is a timed port. Is this some sort of two way diaphragm or what? I have not really been all that interested in it before, but now it has my curiosity up...
What is the correct way for this to be hooked up?
Motor is a 390 2V, 10.5:1, in a 69 Mercury Monterey. Autolite carb. Pulls 19.5" of vacuum at idle.
Thanks everyone. |
| | RE: 69 Merc 390 Vacuum Advance -- Royce P, 06/11/2006
Actually there is something else that is part of the system, the thermostatically controlled vacuum valve screwed into your thermostat housing. Unported vacuum goes to the thermostat housing and it is routed to the distributor port in different ways depending on whether the engine is hot or cold. I don't have the vacuum schematic for your vehicle or I would tell you what the proper connections are.
The schematic is in the factory shop manual. The intent is to retard the spark when water temperature goes over about 210 degrees which has the effect of raising the idle RPM helping to cool the engine because the fan and water pump would spin faster at idle speed.
Royce |
| | | RE: 69 Merc 390 Vacuum Advance -- AJ, 06/11/2006
Interesting... I am not sure what happened, but that valve in the housing is out of the system completely. This is starting to make a little more sense. I wonder if the vacuum switch went bad at one time, and instead of replacing it, it was bypassed.
Can you at least tell me how the two ports on the vacuum advance differ? Currently the outside port is attached to full vacuum at the intake, so I am getting a lot of advance at idle which is giving me problems with my idle speed. The inner port is attached to the timed carb port.
The throttle blades on the carb are completely closed, and I cannot get the idle down. I know it sounds like a vacuum leak, but looking at the vacuum gauge the reading is rock steady. |
| | | | | RE: I'll bet this is more 'distributor advance' info than you wanted... -- AJ, 06/12/2006
Mr. F. Thanks.
I got a handle on the dual diaphram setup. Now, next Q. How should the base timing be set, with or without the inner port attached to full manifold vacuum? The outside port could be unhooked as well to set timing, but there should not be a signal there anyway, since the base timing is set at idle. I am guessing both lines should be pulled off, but am not sure of Ford's intentions with the retard (inner) port and base timing calibration.
Thanks all. |
| | 390 2v A/T: basic advance = 6° @550 rpm; 28-38° @2K rpm [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/13/2006
n/m |
| | | RE: Yes - pull 'em to set timing. Read these related posts (& threads)... -- AJ, 06/13/2006
Mr. F. Thanks a bunch, I really appreciate it.
So the 28-38 is adjustable by the "seat of the pants" tool I assume? Basically whatever the engine will take with out pinging between 28-38 degrees. I will have to play with the timing some. I have a dial back light, so should have no problems figuring out what is going on with it. Have to fix a brake line first to get it drivable to tweak in the carb too. Getting the beast road worth again...
Thanks again. |
| | | | Best advance varies w/ compression, state-of-tune, fuel type, etc. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/13/2006
n/m |
| Exhaust backfire cured -- John, 06/10/2006
Whenever the points got a little bad on my 428, I would get the odd backfire from the exhaust. So when I started getting those shotgun bangs from the exhaust I naturally checked the ignition first. Turns out in this case, it was something else. I sort of thought it might be, as it was only backfirng out the left side exhaust this time. Turned out to be the exhaust manifold gasket. The bolts had loosened up and the gasket material had eroded down in places and left just the metal screen. Theory is that when I de-accelerate, exhaust scavenges air from the bad gasket and the mixture ignites in the hot muffler. Thought I'd share this with you in case anybody else ever has the same trouble. |
| | Yeah - vacuum leaks can drive you nuts. Thanks for the info. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2006
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| Exhaust manifold Id -- Irv, 06/09/2006
Trying to ID the following exhaust manifold for a friend. Am told it was from a Merc. @ 1966.
C3SE9431B The S may be a 5
6D15
Any help would be great |
| C6 with Cast Iron Tailshaft -- HPINXS, 06/09/2006
I read is some messages that Lincolns were equiped with these? I need the tailshaft for a 428 car. Where should I look? |
| R code 67 fastback -- RSP63, 06/08/2006
Would like any info on this car, cars going to be for sale but not till i know everything i can about it, its a plain car with power steering only and an auto trans.,i was told it was one of 6 built, noresponses that say they didnt make them ...do you homework first...thanks |
| | Get a Marti Report -- Royce P, 06/08/2006
Somebody probably faked your VIN number isf you see an R in the fifthe spot. No 427 Mustangs were ever built.
Royce |
| | | RE: Get a Marti Report ? -- RSP63, 06/09/2006
Marti report is worthless, you no doubt know nothing about the car as many other ford friend know they did make it i love hearing from guys that ''think'' they know |
| | Wait - is it a full size Ford fastback? -- Royce P, 06/08/2006
I always assume Mustang since it says Mustang at the top of the page. Maybe you have a Galaxie? Of course they made some of those in '67 with a 427. They are pretty doggone rare, but for some reason the values have not kept up with the '63 - 66 R codes. Great cars, I want one!
You need to take it to a well advertised auction. I would guess $50K and up for a restored correct car.
Royce |
| | | RE: Wait - is it a full size Ford fastback? -- McQ, 06/08/2006
It could be a full size sedan! There were something around 80 or so '67 full size Fords built and that includes both -R- and -W- codes. Very rare. And the '66 full size 427 cars are a "little" more common, somthing in the mid 200's on those.
And of course there were a few, 500 or so?, '67 Fairlanes factory produced with the 427.
Whatever it takes RSP63 to "prove" whatcha got or it may not be worth a lot.
The best way as Royce says is a Marti Report. Easy way to get the truth. |
| | RE:auto trans! -- McQ, 06/08/2006
Oh and one more thing, an automatic was not available in any car with the 427 engine in '67. |
| | | RE:auto trans! talk after you do homework -- RSP63, 06/08/2006
How is it ford people are sooo uninformed. sorry the car had ab auto trans . ford used lincolin transmissions because they had the cast iron tail housings, ford also offered this engine as an option in any ford ford 1967,ive seen it in fairlanes ,and just seen a 67 capri{comet} sell with this option |
| | | | RE:auto trans! talk after you do homework -- walt, 06/08/2006
darn i pulled an all aluninum c-6 out of mustang,my 7 litre,and fairlane,pga box if i recall,the vavlve bodies were different,and also trucks,but i did see some with cast iron tails,can't remeber what applictions,mostly in trucks if i i recall |
| | | | | Ford put 'iron-tailed' C6s in 1968 - 1971 Mustangs & Cougars... [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/09/2006
n/m |
| | | | | ...equipped with a 428 or 429, in both 'CJ' and 'Super CJ' form. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/09/2006
n/m |
| | | | | | RE: ...equipped with a 428 or 429, in both 'CJ' and 'Super CJ' ... -- walt, 06/09/2006
ok these were 66 and 67 big block applications,after 68,i ran the 4 speeds,had more fun with them,just the fact of being able to grab the gears,when i wanted to,no offense to the automagics,i just liked (walking) thru the gears |
| | | | | | | RE: ...equipped with a 428 or 429, in both 'CJ' and 'Super CJ' ... -- RSP63, 06/09/2006
exactly as most people wanted were 4 speeds, this was just a weird one |
| | | | | | | | Yes, I have to say, you are a weird one -- Hawkrod, 06/09/2006
You go on the attack, against people who obviously know a lot more than you, about something you do not know anything about, right? I read all these posts, many from people who are not just knowledgable but are truly experts, and you respond as if they were inexperienced newbs like yourself. You have been very rude and for somebody who hasn't a clue that is really unexpected. You say Marti reports are worthless? How did you come to that conclusion? Obviously it is not because you are familiar with them or what exactly they are. You say you are in the business? I find it hard to believe you are or you would have been much more tactful and done some research before showing your cards. Sorry but you need a good b1tch slap and then after you come back to earth we can talk. Hawkrod |
| | | | | | | | | RE: Yes, I have to say, you are a weird one -- RSP63, 06/11/2006
well hawkrod if your big enough jump...this is why the cars never been up for sale you so called people who know what your talking about im through with and when you see the cars been sold to a person that deserves it,think back on what youve wrote, the rudness started with others telling me i dont know what im talking about |
| | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- RSP63, 06/08/2006
I build clasic cars truth be known the car is a friends i just got it for him say about 20 years ago it had a tired 428 in it with all the 427 parts still there .so talking to me like i dont know the difference between a full size ford and mustang wont get you anyplace,i love it. this is a realFE page ? ill take pics of the vin. number and put them on a page for sale at this rate lol |
| | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- walt, 06/08/2006
sorry i'm so uninformed |
| | | Everybody responding to you is quite knowledgeable -- Royce P, 06/09/2006
I own two W code '68 Cougars right now. You claim to own something that Ford has records to prove they never made. If you wish for us to believe you then the burden is on you. You have Ford and the entire weight of collected knowledge in the hobby against you.
Then there is the issue that you don't even use capitol letters or punctuation. Really, if you or your friend owns a 427 Mustang it is going to be like winning the lottery, revealing that Amelia Earhart is still alive and finding Jimmy Hoffa's corpse all rolled into one.
We are all ears. Lets see some proof. Cut the BS, show us what you have.
Royce |
| | | | Why is it that people ask for help, then get rude. -- Mark V, 06/09/2006
.when they do not like the answer they are given. Don’t people realize that if they are claiming that they have a one in a million type of car (especially one that most people believe was never made) that it will require a higher level of proof to change the current commonly accepted knowledge. If they want to believe it is true, that is there business. However, to call the same people that they were asking to help them stupid because they will not buy into there delusion is wrong.
Royce, we will never see proof because if he had it he would not have asked the question in the first place.
BTW, I have a 1961 Mustang factory experimental car with a 428 Cobra Jet that I am selling for a billion dollars. I have absolutely no documentation to back it up. I was told it was real by the original owner (my cousin’s neighbor’s aunt’s barber). I am certain that it is true because he scrawled it down on a napkin when he sold it to me but he has left the country so he can not be reached to confirm the story.
Any buyers out there??
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| | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- RSP63, 06/11/2006
To this Royce person...one thing i dont have to show anything, i have people that have looked at the car already.and made an offer on it.call Mustangs plus in stockton ca. for one, you i realy dont want to talk to anymore |
| | | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- chuck, 06/11/2006
Oh my God! I can't believe this.
I guess it takes all kinds. |
| | | | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- walt, 06/11/2006
this is getting like the soap oprea's,i thouht i knew a lot about fords,and a few times i was corrected,and very informative of my mistake from others in the forum,not that i know more than you,'but info to help you on your project,or not to get ripped off,pay attention,may help in your conquests of perfecton |
| | | | | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- RSP63, 06/13/2006
sorry to have been rude but to be told i dont know what im looking at ,and being asked if its a full size ford is just crazy,we've stared research on the car and good or bad i'll put the findings on here |
| | | | | | | It ought to be interesting . . . -- Orin, 06/13/2006
. . . to see what "documentation" RSP63 can dig up on his 427 Mustang. We await his evidence with bated breath. |
| | | | | | | | He made it clear... -- Gerry Proctor, 06/13/2006
He's not offering any evidence. He cautioned us in the beginning to do our homework. So no Marti report or anything else for this automatic 427 Mustang. |
| | | | | | | | | Yes, he made it very clear.... -- Hawkrod, 06/13/2006
He said that original Ford documentation was worthless and the fact that the records show that no cars were built are wrong and he isn't going to provide any evidence at all but his is real! Just like that one that showed up last year which had a W code and was found out to have been faked with new ID tags years ago. As a matter of fact, a big dealer in the northeast just got hit bad for putting new tags on older restorations and then selling them as "real" but with the wrong running gear. The guys work was so good nobody could tell until records proved otherwise. Maybe that is why our "friend" here says the Ford records are worthless? Hawkrod |
| | | | | | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- walt, 06/13/2006
i told everyone that i seen this 68 427 mustang,all plain jane black as a matter of fact 2 of them,and the fender engine logo seemed to be smaller than the normal 289,302,390,428 logo,one was running at the now exticnt detroit drag way the other was at the old gratiot auto supply on stevens hwy,if any body from the detroit area knows where i'm talking about,but there is no records of the infamous or famous cars,if you have and proff,your on easy street,lol |
| | | | | | | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- walt, 06/13/2006
i got a set of these heads,c8ae-j? |
| | | | | | | | RE: R code 67 fastback''mustang'' -- walt, 06/13/2006
how come you can get the 69 hood scope oranament logo for the 427and available thru many concors suppliers? |
| | | | | | | | | Hood scoop ornaments -- Royce P, 06/14/2006
Walt,
Ford did sell 427 hood scoop ornaments. They had 427 engines for sale through the Muscle Parts Program and many owners were happy to buy matching emblems after they swapped a 427 into their 390 Mustang.
Royce |
| | | | | | | | | | Those ornaments are 'C9ZZ-' parts...not 1967 - 1968. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/14/2006
n/m |
| | | | | | | | | | | Re: ornaments are C9ZZ The 390 was available in 69 -- Royce P, 06/14/2006
The ornaments in question fit a shaker. '69 was the year Mickey Thompson used a 427 in a Mustang to set lots of records, even though Ford never produced a 427 in a Mustang on the assembly line ever in any model year.
Royce |
| | | | | | | | | | | | 'Fit' is one thing, but I'm talking about design time-frame. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/15/2006
n/m |
| | | | | | | | | | | | ...since Walt's implying that mere availability is probative. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/15/2006
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| | | | | | | | | Oddly enough, early 1969 'fleet' sales sheets list a 427... [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/14/2006
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| | | | | | | | | ...for Mustangs. But it was never priced out, for dealers. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/14/2006
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| | | | | | | | | Can't say if it was a ruse or a typo, but definitely invalid. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/14/2006
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| | Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- Orin, 06/13/2006
. . . whether or not these car existed. The issue is whether or not Ford Motor Company manufactured and sold them.
Anyone could drop a 427 in a Mustang and claim it was from the factory, but there is no credible documentation anywhere to support the claim Ford made them. Nada, zilch, tepota, nothing, zero, nary a shred of evidence according to Ford records and the guys here.
Some guy saying he saw one 40 years ago doesn't cut it. Sorry. |
| | | RE: Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- walt, 06/13/2006
read what i wrote earlier |
| | | RE: Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- walt, 06/13/2006
yep make you jealous,i put a 427 in my 67 mustang, |
| | | | RE: Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- walt, 06/14/2006
ps,trying to hold it on the road was a new challange |
| | | | | RE: Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- walt, 06/14/2006
ty royce,i got a pair of the c9 zz emblems.should i glue them to my cat or dog,that is the question,lol |
| | | RE: Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- walt, 06/14/2006
orin too bad you wern't there to see that stuff 40 yrs ago,niether was i,35 yrs ago yes,after my duty in the military,66-68,i found the big block fords were under dogs,well i always took up sides with the under dog,thats why i'm here,thats the ford mystigue? |
| | | | There are two things here that are not going -- Lou, 06/15/2006
to change. # 1 Ford made a lot of odd cars that they never kept paper work for. #2 That any paper work can be faked. So what is real is in the eye of the person looking at it. |
| | | | | RE: There are two things here that are not going -- walt, 06/17/2006
i had a nieghbor,that woked at the ford test,dyno track,would bring home a 66 fairlane witn a 427 in it or galaxie with a cammer in it,this was not available to any body but the test track,but i did see them be on the street,wich was a nono,maybe cost thier jobs,after my tour of military duty,he had moved,don't know where,but he would bring home some realy cool stuff from the test track,and i was very impressed at my young age |
| | | | RE: Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- walt, 06/18/2006
i feel that i overstayed my welcome,that 40 year ago statement got my attention,maybe time to disapear,and hold my big block exprience to my self |
| | | | | RE: Walt: I don't think the issue is . . . -- Chris Shomaker, 06/19/2006
I havent had time to read all of the comments here, there seems to be alot of disagreement on these topics. Maybe this can shed some light on the situation.
http://www.fordflashback.com/xfiles.asp
And just to add fuel to the fires, I myself have a 69 Mustang that had a 427 in it. ( Woah Woah before everyone starts calling BS hear me out) The car wasnt factory produced by ford they had a fabrication shop customize the car... It was a promotional car built for Carl Holbrook to race as a ford driver, the original S code 390 was pulled and tossed a 427 Tunnel Port was droped in and the shock towers still have the dents beat in them for the headers to clear. The care was tubed out and gutted. After that season the car was sold and after several owners I ended up with nothing but a body and several spare parts. Now before you think im blowing smoke up your asses, i am not claiming to have documented proof ford built this car. It was only verified by the first owner. Also the car was contracted out to a secondary company to be customized to race specs. So in a way for had a hand in building a 427 69 Mustang, but that doesnt matter because ford didnt actually build it It still shows as a 390 S code. So make of that what you want, it took 2 years of hard detective work to get these details.
Maybe a story similar to mine has been causing rumors about cars that may have existed, ford never made them in the factory but they had a hand in how they came to be the way they are. |
| 63 Galaxie intake manifold ID -- Gregg Damminga, 06/07/2006
I am looking at a 63 1/2 Galaxie, and am trying to ID the intake manifold. It is 3x2,
and has the "FORD blue oval" emblam stamped on one side near an intake runner. But, no part numbers anywhere. How to ID this part? Is the number on the bottom side?
Thanks. |
| | RE: Nope. -- McQ, 06/08/2006
There wasn't a part/casting # stamped on the tri power intakes. The big block FE tri power was introduced in April, '61 for the HP 390/375 horse engine. The tri power bumped the horse power rating to 401. This exact system was carried over into '62 with the 390HP and then the mid year 406. For '63, the tri power 406/405 horse continued to mid year until the 427 replaced the 406 option.
What you might be able to find is a date code on your intake. On some, and this isn't always the case because some are totally void of date codes/numbers other than firing order, you might find:
1E24 cast near the top of the thermostat housing. This particular stamping means -
1 - 1961
E - May
24 - 24th day of May.
The tri power became an over the counter option after mid '63, all the way into at least '67.
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| | | Thanks! n/m -- Gregg, 06/08/2006
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| | | | What is the engine code on the data plate ? n/m -- Lou, 06/15/2006
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