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 |  pertronix -- jeff, 01/21/2004
looking to upgrade my points on 67 galaxie 500 390 2v.,auto. to original pertronix ignitor and coil. do i use 1.5 ohm or .06 ohm coil. any ideas on where to buy for best prices? |
|  | Stock coil should be fine. -- Dave Shoe, 01/21/2004
I'm unaware of any 0.06 ohm coils. The 1.5 ohm coil and ballast should be fine with the Pertronix,as should be the stock coil/ballast wire combo. A stock coil works best in stock gasoline applications, as you don't run into ballast balance issues or humid weather problems like you do with performance coils.
Just guessing,
Shoe. |
 | fe machinist in phila pa area? -- mike khett, 01/21/2004
does anybody know of a good fe machinist in the southern nj philly pa area? im rebuilding my 352 any want someone capable on fes thanks mike |
|  | RE: fe machinist in phila pa area? -- giacamo, 01/25/2004
mike try to find a older shop that has done fe machine work. the fe is prittie simpel to do machine work on the block prep, but the heads are the tricky part and generly need the most atention.i know a decent machinist is hard to find in this slap together world we seam to live in......... |
| | RE: fe machinist in phila pa area? -- Mac, 02/15/2004
Haven't been on the site for a while so this answer may be a little late.
but if your still interested in someone who is an fe expert check out Whytes Auto Repair 8025 Montague St. (NE Philly) 215 624 7450
Just yesterday was in his shop saw two 66 fairlane 427 cars, 1 67 Galaxie 428, and several assorted fe's on engine stands, his personal 66 Fairlane (427) is a masterpiece both in performance and finish. |
| 428 cj -- Chad, 01/20/2004
I want to find out the approx cost for adapting a 428 CJ block to 406/427 cross bolt main caps. |
| ![Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=19830&Reply=19824><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <b>Align-boring/honing runs ~$200 - more, for aftermarket caps.[n/m]</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>01/20/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote>](/WebResource.axd?d=5j1V7IJBhc-qdmzmrXlobvkd6XqaizQUhWQHj-vM6rKCPLyqqmJc28m-vUhtleb_nr3gLAHt-YDxPG2cIxXLVngLm1uBckPEOS2tmxtmrbPm-iybiPnKHSxrl_dpnwZh0&t=637814653746327080) | Align-boring/honing runs ~$200 - more, for aftermarket caps.[n/m] -- Mr F, 01/20/2004
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| | | RE: Align-boring/honing runs ~$200 - more, for aftermarket caps.[n/m] -- Chad, 01/22/2004
Thanks for the information. |
| | | | Are you looking to buy caps? -- Dave Shoe, 01/22/2004
If you already have caps, it makes the process a little cheaper and easier. Make sure they're a snug fit in the block registers, otherwie you've likely got a worn out set of caps. Loose-fitting caps are problematic, just as loose fitting dampers tend to work the damper bolt loose.
You can install factory caps with custom skirt spacers, but there will be a number of bucks stuffed into the fitting, the align bore, and align hone.
The align bore takes a bit more material off the parting line of the caps, in order to assure all the bores are concentric when replacing caps. An align hone precisely finishes the process and is recommended for performance use. Selection of a proper-fitting timing chain with the repositioned main bores can be a little extra work.
If you only seek to refresh the bottom end, keeping the original caps, an align hone is all that's needed, and much less material is removed from the maincaps, making timing chain fitting easier.
Aftermarket steel crossbolt caps are available from Pro-Gram Engineering in Minnesota. These run maybe $300.00-or-so a set and do not require spacers, since they're designed for non-crossbolted blocks.
It'll likely cost from $500.00 to $800.00 for a crossbolt conversion, but this does stiffen up the bottom end for high-RPM and supercharged service.
Shoe. |
| | | | | RE: Are you looking to buy caps? -- Chad, 01/22/2004
It will be a while before I start. Just have bought the block. I have also looked at a main girdle. I think I would feel a little more secure with some extra strength. Any thoughts on how a main girdle stack up against cross bolting? |
| | | | | | I'm not fond of main girdles. -- Dave Shoe, 01/22/2004
I can't understand how long, thin legs with holes drilled in them can support a maincap. They do work, but I don't understand why.
Keith Craft sells the best ladderbar girdle I know of. It's race proven to work, which sorta negates my complaints. It does bolt up to the oil pan rail, thus lowering the oil pan. This may create some clearance issues. I seem to recall it costs about $350 to buy and $350 to install, but I seem to recall hearing it may be closer to $500.00 for the entire install. I don't have the facts well figured out.
I'm working on a different type of maincap support that fits between the crank and oil pan, and ties the center three caps together like a solid hunk of metal. The goal is to resolve the primary failure issues in supercharged and high RPM FE builds, which is cracking the oil feed holes at cranksaddles #2, #4, and #3, in that order (even on crossbolted blocks those are generally the first to fail) using a low-cost bolt-on. I don't know if it works, but I'll be finding out in the next couple months.
A picture can be found here:
http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/showmedia.php?id=102117
and here:
http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/showmedia.php?id=89457
http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/showmedia.php?id=89458
Pass or fail, you'll probably hear rumblings about it in the next few months when a production run is cast and machined into kit form. An align hone is required to complete the install.
Shoe. |
| | | | | | | RE: I'm not fond of main girdles. -- Chad, 01/23/2004
That looks like a nice setup. I will be interested on the results. |
| 427 fe block id -- chris, 01/20/2004
I hope you guys can help: did Ford produce any other fe block as a side oiler, with cross bolted mains, other than the 427? Also, were 427 fe blocks manufactured 1969+? Any bit of info would be a great help! |
| | Be careful using casting information -- Royce P, 01/20/2004
A little knowledge can be confusing.
427's were made as late as 1973, possibly as late as 1974. The latest casting date I have personally seen on a 427 side oiler was 1973.
Only 427's were made as side oilers.
Some 360 and 390 blocks used 427 external block molds so they may have visual cues that lead you to believe you are looking at a 427. However these blocks don't have enough cylinder wall thickness to be bored out to 427 size (4.234") so they are no better than any other 390 block.
Royce |
| | | RE: Be careful using casting information -- chris, 01/20/2004
Thanks Royce. That should be helpful. So does this mean that there could be a 390 or 360 with the side oiler galley that was cast from a 427 s/o mold? Is the cylinder wall thinckness something that a machine shop can measure? Thanks in advance for your time and assistance. |
| | | | Search "drill bit test" -- Royce P, 01/20/2004
No sense having a machine shop test any blocks unless they pass the drill bit test. Search this forum and see dozens of posts on the subject. Search "casting number" for more education on that topic. Bottom line: most 390's are destined to be 390's forever.
Royce |
| | | | | The "figure-8" boss is only on the rear. -- Dave Shoe, 01/21/2004
That phantom "figure-8" boss you see on the back is only on the rear panel of the mold. There are no side oiler passages cast into those common "figure-8ed" 360/390 blocks of 1973-or-so.
Similarly, you'll find a lot of 1964 FE and FT blocks of all displacements with crossbolt knobs cast in but unused. These blocks all typically lack 427 cylinder jackets and simply contain a few fun artifacts of the 427 without any real performance value.
Shoe. |
| Camshaft retainer oil grooves -- Bill, 01/20/2004
Howdy - I have a couple of these in a basket, and one has a small short oil groove on both sides, and the other has a long groove or slot on one side only. Both are from 390's. The retainer with two grooves is '76 vintage, and the one with the long groove is '66. So what's the deal ?? Is one better than the other?? |
| | RE: Camshaft retainer oil grooves -- giacamo, 01/22/2004
i,v ran eather one and see no real diferance betwean them..... |
| 427 fe info -- TOM FROBERG, 01/20/2004
Hello, ive been searching for the listings of all manufacturers of the gear drives for the ford fe 427. Please help. I would like to find the best for the least, milodon is the only one i can find,and hey there good, but there must be others. Thanx. Please email me with responses. Tom. |
| | Gear drives are a bad idea -- Royce P, 01/20/2004
Use a good true roller timing chain. Gear drives are not a good idea for a multitude of reasons like cost, noise and lost horsepower.
Royce |
| 1 wire alternator -- Charlie, 01/19/2004
Looking to eliminate my volt regulator. I've considered a couple different options, really like one from summit but it is kind of spendy and it would be nice to be able to pick up a replacement on the road if need be.
Any one have any over the counter options that work with out major bracket mods or fabrication?
Thanks |
| | tuff stuff alternators at summit n\m -- bear, 01/20/2004
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| 390 Distributor -- Mike, 01/19/2004
FE Distributor
I have a 69 Cougar with a 390. What are some suggestions for a distributor. Also where can i get a rebuilt stock one, or who rebuilds them.
thanks
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| | I wonder... -- Lou, 01/19/2004
If this isn't some kind of an adapter housing. Seller said that bolts holes don't line up perfect. Any other engines have a simular bolt pattern to the FE? |
| | RE: Can't say I've ever seen one of these, before... -- giacamo, 01/22/2004
looks like a old fe powerd hay wagen bellhousing thay use out hear in western kansas....... |
| Gas tank rehab ? -- Glenucci, 01/19/2004
My 1970 LTD sat idle for 13 years. It's running now but minute rust particles are clogging up the fuel filter and causing problems. New tanks look pricey. Is there any way to rehab the existing tank? Thanks. |
| | RE: Gas tank rehab ? -- Bill, 01/20/2004
POR15 has a great system. I used it on my in-cab gas tank and it worked great. Just make sure you get all the components suggested and use them all. I think there is a wash, then treatment, followed by a sealer. less than $100 |
| | | RE: Gas tank rehab ? -- Bill, 01/20/2004
I forgot to mention that you have to remove the tank to perform this task, and there is a bit of grunt work involved in swishing the stuff around. |
| | | | RE: Gas tank rehab ? -- Glenucci, 01/24/2004
Thanks Bill; I'll do that. |
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