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| decoding for 66 390 gt -- mikeb, 06/25/2002
friend gave me the numbers of his data plate, 63D N 85 13A 28 4 4 does anyone know what these mean? thanks |
| | RE: decoding for 66 390 gt -- Boydster, 06/25/2002
I think you're missing the top part of the data plate. From what you've gotten so far, 63 is a 2 door hard top (not sure about the "D"), the "N" and "85" are body and trim codes, "13A" is the production date code, which is January 13th(model year is on the top part your missing), "28" is the district sales office, the first "4" is the axle code = 3.25:1(non-locking I think), the second "4" is the tranny code = C-6 Auto (XPL)1966 only. That's all I can come up with, someone else probably knows alot more than me. Hope it's accurate.LOL. |
| | RE: decoding for 66 390 gt -- Steve Applebaum "FairlaneSteve", 06/29/2002
Hello Mike,Here is the decode of the tag.63D,body style 500GT 2 DR HARDTOP. N paint code,this one was tough because it is not a normal color for a Fairlane in '66 it is shown as Platinum which was a Thunderbird color,if the color is silver "Medium Gray Metalic" it should be a 4. 85, Interior trim RED . 13A, This is the build date, January 13. 28, This is the district which ordered the car , Louisville. 4, Rear axle 3.25 non-locking. 4 , Transmission C6 AUTOMATIC (XPL) This transmission was only available with Fairlane GT in '66 . The car became a GTA when ordered with the automatic. "FairlaneSteve" |
| | RE: decoding for 66 390 gt -- Steve Applebaum "FairlaneSteve", 06/29/2002
Mike Hello Again, Here is some more info that may help. The vin # which is above the numbers you sent decode as follows 1st ,model year . 2nd ,assembly plant. This should be A,R,S,K,H. A-Atlanta ,R-San Jose,S-Pilot plant( Allen Park Michigan ) , K-Kansas City, H-Lorraine Ohio. 3rd &4th body series should be 40 for this car. 5th engine code should be S. The last six numbers are numerical sequence of assembly of the car line at the assembly plate listed in the vin#. The total production for '66 500 GT 2 DR HARDTOP was 33,015 cars this includes stick shift and automatic . The last information I have as to remaining cars is dated 2/97 at that time the count was 1,714 I hope this is helpfull. "FairlaneSteve" |
| | | RE: decoding for 66 390 gt -- mike, 07/02/2002
Steve, Just curious...Where did you find the info on the number of "remaining" '66 Fairlane GT/GTA's,...? |
| | | | thanks for the info, -- mikeb, 07/02/2002
the car has been repainted platinum,but the car was missing a lot of trim items that made ne wonder about the authenticitym of the car. For the record, was the 'S' code 390 exclusive to the GT/ GTA Fairlanes , not available in the lesser variety Fairlanes? |
| Russ Davis Ford, Covina Cal? -- pop428, 06/24/2002
Can anyone tell me if the above dealership still exists? I know The dealership sponsored "Gass" Rhonda in the early and late 60's. I'm mainly chasing a copy of their dealer sticker for my back window on my Mach1 428cjr, which was sold though them in june 1969. if anyone has an example I would really appreciatesome form of copy? thanks one and all. Peter. 69 mach1 428cjr WT 7034 Green. |
| Fan / Fan Shroud Question -- Joshua Carroll, 06/24/2002
What percentage of the fan blades should be inside the fan shroud? I am guessing 75% inside and 25% outside the shroud... Sound about right?!? Thanks! |
| | RE: Fan / Fan Shroud Question -- Bob, 06/24/2002
50% by the book, but I've had good success with up to 90% inside. |
| | Even w/ new mounts I'd go no more than 50. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/29/2002
n/m |
| 391 Blocks -- Rob, 06/24/2002
Great idea Gordon! Does anyone know much about FE blocks without any numbers on it? I'm looking at a truck block with a 352 on the tail but no 352 or 105 on front and no block number on side. I only had a chance to pop out one plug on the side but I could not get a 14/64" drill between the cylinder wall anywhere. Rob |
| | RE: 391 Blocks -- P, 06/24/2002
I'm having that same dilemma right now. I can tell they are 427 marine motors, but there are no castings in the usual location, and the numbers below the oil line taps don't seem to make any sense
P |
| 1966 Cyclone Convert -- Tom, 06/23/2002
there is a 1966 Cyclone Converable in the local bone yard its rusted so thats why i dont get it its basicly a shell anyone interested i can try to get some Pictures there is also a 1966 Fairlane Converable really clean body all it needs its a Hood and Doors i belive |
| | RE: 1966 Cyclone Convert -- Bob, 06/21/2003
Very interested but where are you? I'm in NJ. |
| | | RE: 1966 Cyclone Convert -- Frank Cricenti, 07/13/2003
Anyone interested in a 1966 Ford Fairlane 500. Presently it is a rolling body. It is presently primered. The car is very solid purchased in Georgia. The only rust on the vehicle is in the front floor pans(have replacement pans) Body is complete without plastic or rust. Solid Doors, Fenders, Rockers and Quarters. All trim is included but is removed as the car was getting prepped for paint. I ran out of money after completing a 1966 Ford Fairlane 500XL. I also have addl parts such as 2 doors, 2 Fenders, Hood, trim parts instrument panel and many others... It is originally a 289 car.
I live very close to Buffalo, NY but on the Canadian side of the border. The vehicle has a clean title. Will email pics if interested. Asking 2,900 obo. I also have a 302 4V with Tranny if interested. |
| | | 1966 Ford Fairlane 500 -- Frank Cricenti, 07/13/2003
Anyone interested in a 1966 Ford Fairlane 500. Presently it is a rolling body. It is presently primered. The car is very solid purchased in Georgia. The only rust on the vehicle is in the front floor pans(have replacement pans) Body is complete without plastic or rust. Solid Doors, Fenders, Rockers and Quarters. All trim is included but is removed as the car was getting prepped for paint. I ran out of money after completing a 1966 Ford Fairlane 500XL. I also have addl parts such as 2 doors, 2 Fenders, Hood, trim parts instrument panel and many others... It is originally a 289 car.
I live very close to Buffalo, NY but on the Canadian side of the border. The vehicle has a clean title. Will email pics if interested. Asking 2,900 obo. I also have a 302 4V with Tranny if interested. |
| | RE: 1966 Cyclone Convert -- dennie, 06/22/2003
Yes interested |
| FE Cast Iron Rocker Shaft Stands -- Ken Cenicola, 06/23/2002
Where can I get cast iron rocker shaft stands PN C3AZ-6531-A to replace the stock aluminum stands?
Also, does anyone know if anyone makes stamped rocker arms with roller tips for the FE. Not roller rockers that require big bucks and other mods, I'm talking about rocker arms that replace the stock rocker arm but have a roller bearing where they contact the valve.
Ken |
| Low vaccumm makes for hot cabin. -- James/Onery2u, 06/23/2002
I installed a hot cam in my 428 car which makes low vaccumm. The vaccumm is so low that the valve that shuts the hot water off from the heater core will not pull shut when the control is off. I have hot water all the time. The valve is new so I doubt if it is failing. I have been told that some folks used to put a manual valve that could be turned off and on manually, open in the winter and shut in the summer. My question is about the type of vavle to use. Has anyone used one that they liked or seen one that they know works well for this application and could tell me where to get it? Thanks for all of your past and present advise. |
| 1966 Cyclone -- Tom, 06/21/2002
ok a Junk yard guy out here just got a 1966 Cyclone its on its way from AZ right now its got 390 4 bbl favtory he said it MAY have a Fiber Glass Hood not sure on this we will see tomarrow how many 66 Were Made with 390 4 bbl and a Glass hood if they had them BUT it does have the dual hood scoops |
| | RE: 1966 Cyclone -- Tim B, 06/21/2002
I *think* all 66 Cyclones had fiberglass hoods. The scoops were not functional though.
Tim B |
| | RE: 1966 Cyclone -- Bob, 06/21/2003
I just bought a 66 conv. Gt. It has the nonfunctional fiberglass hood. Just over 2,000 made if I remember right. Never heard of them being functional. |
| | | RE: 1966 Cyclone -- steve, 06/21/2003
Mercury indeed had functunal hoods for the 66 gt's.But I believe for their race cars only.I"m not sure if you could buy them over the counter or not.There were many articles on the super stock cars that did show the ram air hoods on them.I have seen one at a swap meet. |
| | | | RE: 1966 Cyclone -- John Saxon, 06/22/2003
Steve you are right about the functional scoops in 1966 Mercury supposedly offered a C-stock package on Cyclone GTs that had a functional cold air hood one of the magazines of the era ran an article on it and showed a picture of the underside of the hood clearly showing the plenum with a round hole for the air cleaner to fit into.The regular production GT hoods did not have the plenum glassed in,but I think Crites repro hood can be had with it as an option.Can't remember for sure but I think it may have been a Super Stock mag from sometime in 66 that had the article,and I think there may have been a cover shot of the car lettered as a race car. |
| | | | | RE: 1966 Cyclone -- steve, 06/23/2003
The 66 cyclone in my opinion did so much for muscle cars and drag racing,it did what mercury intended.With dyno Don winning something like 98% of his match races.It was and is one of my favorite muscle cars. |
| | | | | | RE: 1966 Cyclone -- McQ, 06/25/2003
I agree with you Steve that the '66 Cyclone GT was a great car. It was essentially the same car as its Ford counterpart, the Fairlane GT & GTA. Interesting to note that the Cyclone was not differentiated by name/badging. If you had a Cyclone GT with stick or Automatic it didn't matter, it was a GT with the 335 horsepower 390GT.
To clarify a bit more on Tom's original fiberglass hood question, all factory stock Cyclone GTs came equipped with the fiberglass simulated dual scoop hood. This hood was optional for the Cyclone purchaser. He/she could order their Cyclone with a 289-2V and the cool hood if desired.
John's is right on with the info about the very rare "functional" dual scoop to a single 4V fiberglass hood. It was available to the serious C stock competitors. |
| | | | | | | RE: 1966 Cyclone -- john wolf, 04/14/2004
I have a 1966 cyclone gt conv. that I am restoring, it nhas the 390 with air and I am having trouble figuring out the right brakets and pulleys for the motor, any pictures or info would be greatly appreciated. thanks, jlw. |
| 391 blocks -- Rob, 06/21/2002
A question of luck? How easy or hard is it to find a 391 block in a truck bone yard with thick enough cylinder walls to build a 428? I tried my luck in a small yard with a couple of what were probably 361 blocks but the cylinder walls would pass a 14/64" drill bit easily. I would like the fun (and savings) of finding a block to build up but my teenage son will explode if this takes very long. Those of you that found a block can probably take a guess at how many you had to look through to find a good one. Thanks in advance.
Rob |
| | You could say 1 of 30 or 40.. -- Royce Peterson, 06/22/2002
I looked at one yesterday. Knocked out the freeze plugs and saw the biggest gap yet. Block had a 210L date, reverse 105 on the front of the driver side cylinder bank, no casting ID number. It would have been iffy to bore it .030" oversize.
Very few blocks accidentally received thick cores from my observation point. You might save yourself some time by contacting Carl's Ford Parts:
www.carlsfordparts.com
They have some good used 428 blocks in stock.
Royce Peterson
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| | RE: 391 blocks -- Styletone58, 06/22/2002
I have a 391 block that passed the "drill" test but failed a sonic check. Core shift often will not be reflected in a drill test. Core shift is the real silent enemy. It may be best to set your sights on a 410-style build-up (390 block, 428 crank), and if you can bore your block .06 over from 4.05 for a 422, consider yourself lucky.
I suppose when the Scat cranks come out, we won't have to worry so much about 4.13" bore blocks for getting cubes. |
| | RE: 391 blocks -- Rob, 06/22/2002
Thanks for the responses. I know I will sonic test any block I try to rebuild. My son and I spent the morning at a bone yard looking at cores. We looked at about ten until closing time arrived. The last block we found was interesting. Definitely a FE block (right motor mount holes, 352 on back of block, five bolts on valve covers ) but I could not find a casting number on the side of the block. No 352 or 105 on the front either. I had time to pop just one plug on the side and could not fit a 14/64" drill through anywhere! Why do bone yards have to close at noon on Saturdays!
The yardman made a comment that they have at least seven of everything at the yard, even motors out of boats! Now I have visions of finding a 427 block! I could get hooked on pecking through boneyards, almost like treasure hunting! Rob |
| | RE: 391 blocks -- gordon, 06/23/2002
the old power company trucks usually had the bigger blocks in the also i know a friend who hunts them up and has never failed yet being able to bore them out they just seem to have a thicker wall in them than others do it seems gordon |
| 428 ? help -- Todd, 06/21/2002
I need help ID'ing a short block. The rods are C7AE-B & the pistons say 428 on one side & super on the other. The crank is steel CAE630 (maybe C5AE) it does have the $ sign. The block is C6ME w/VSH9 by the oil filter adapter, it all was standard and seems to be stock. Any kind of help would be great :-). Thanks Todd |
| | RE: 428 ? help -- Joel, 06/21/2002
Does the block have reinforced main webs? Do the rods have capscrews or standard bolts? Bore and stoke might help as well. |
| | | RE: 428 ? help -- todd, 06/23/2002
The block as far as I can remember doesn't have reinforces main webs, as for the rods they are just standard but the nuts are bigger than 9/16 . I don't remember off hand the bore but the pistons say 428 and where standard. I am not a ford person but don't the casting #'s speek for themselves? (when I bought it I thought it was a 390 with a steel crank till I took out a piston and saw 428. ) thanks for the help... Todd |
| | | | RE: 428 ? help -- Joel, 06/23/2002
I'm certainly not in expert on this forum, but it sounds like you have a 428 passenger car block with CJ rods and pistons. It sounds like a steel 427 crank but I don't know how the stroke would work the a 427 crank and CJ rods. Check again to make sure it doesn't have the reinforced main webs. The bolts you encountered on the rods are probably 13/32" (19/32" nut) which were used on the 428cj rods. |
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