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| intake identification -- Gary W., 03/28/2005
Recently acquired a 1966 Fairlane GT. The 390 has 428CJ heads(C80E-6090-N) and an aluminum intake #C6AE-9424-J. What is this intake ? Any help is appreciated. |
| | Alum PI -- raycfe, 03/28/2005
66 large thermoshat PI alum manifold. Very good manifold |
| | Sidewinder N/M -- Royce, 03/28/2005
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| | | H=sidewinder, J=PI n/m -- Barry B, 03/28/2005
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| | | | oops, the other way around (sheesh!) n/m -- Barry B, 03/28/2005
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| | | | RE: H=sidewinder, J=PI n/m -- Gary W., 03/29/2005
Being a novice at this, what does PI n/m mean? Somenone else wrote that the intake C6AE-9424-J was a large thermostat 66 manifold. What car/motor would this have come from? |
| | | | | 'n/m' = 'no message' (ie: response in title, only). [n/m] -- Mr F, 03/29/2005
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| | | | | 'PI' = 'Police Interceptor' (usu. refers to 428 police engine). [n/m] -- Mr F, 03/29/2005
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| | | | | C6AE 9424-J is a Sidewinder -- Royce, 03/29/2005
C6AE 9424-H is a Police Interceptor. All FE manifolds made before about September 1966 were big thermostat including both of these.
Royce |
| | | | | | RE: C6AE 9424-J is a Sidewinder -- Gary W., 04/01/2005
As I said before, I'm new to the big block side of Ford, having 302 FI before. How did this manifold get the designation sidewinder? What year/motor did it come from? Is this considered a good manifold to have or are there other Ford intakes that would be better? Any help is appreciated. |
| | | | | | | It is a great manifold. -- Royce Peterson, 04/01/2005
The name was given to it by enthusiasts due to the carburetor being off center.
This intake was never original equipment on anything. It was sold over the counter by Ford, Shelby and Holman Moody. Each had its own versions with manifolds being made up into the mid 1970's.
Royce |
| | | | | | | | RE: It is a great manifold. -- Gary W., 04/01/2005
Thanks for the information and all your help. This research is very interesting and the more I learn, the more I want to learn! |
| | | | | | | | RE: It is a great manifold. -- Gary W., 04/08/2005
What was the advantage(s) of having the carb off center? I would assume air/fuel flow but not sure how it helped by having the carb off center. |
| | | | | | | | | RE: It is a great manifold. -- Big Dave, 04/11/2005
I think it made runner length equal. |
| 427 Block -- Walter, 03/28/2005
I acquired a 427 block back in the mid 80's and its been sitting up for all these years on a stand in my shed.
After reading the many posts on this Forum I decided to try and confirm what I have. Any assistance would be appreciated. The following is the info I have from the block:
1. Driver side;
3B22:3 DIFF
(I believe this is the date code 22 Feb 1963 but I don't know what the ":3 or DIF stands for)
2. Passanger side;
HP 31 (HP=High Perf but what is 31?) 55 (sideways over the #'sbelow) C3AE (1963 Ford Engr) 6015AB (?? I thought blocks were 6010?)
3. In lifter Gallery;
HP 24 ("24" is sideways after HP with 1 dot behind "24")
4. Where trans mounts to block;
23 HP
5. Crank has the following #'s on it;
C4AE (one dot) B 9
6. Bore of cyl measures 4.28 (Is this punched too far for viable use? I believe the original bore was 4.23.)
7. Cyl wall thickness bet/ cyl is .3125
8. It appears to be a "Top Oiler" due to oil pressure relief valve just above cam bearing bore.
9. In addition I have a dual quad intake that reads;
C3AE-9425-K 3LC (Is this the date code?)
Thanks for the help. You guys a great source of info.
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| | RE: 427 Block -- Big Dave, 03/29/2005
Well, seems it is a Top Oiler. The 4.28 bore is questionable, I'm told that if you have to go more than .030 over on the 427, you have to sleeve it because of cylinder wall thickness.
The crank is a 64 427 cast iron crank.
I'm guessing the intake is a 427 low/medium riser intake, probably used in production cars. |
| | | RE: 427 Block -- Walter, 03/29/2005
Thanks Dave. I will check the TRW pistons that came with the block to see if they are marked for bore size to confirm my bore measurements. Is it even worth sleeving something like this or do I now own an extremely heavy paperweight? |
| | | | RE: 427 Block -- Big Dave, 03/29/2005
Well, I have no idea how much sleeving a block costs. But if you are really set on working with a 427 block, standard bore top oilers are going for about $2500-$3000, and a side oiler for about $4000. If sleeving costs more than that, get a new block. |
| How much do CJ type C-6's cost? -- limabeaner, 03/27/2005
How about the N case axle? I came across a 1969 Cobra 9A46R...., The car appears to have been used as a parts car, the engine is gone, didn't get a chance to look under it, the interior is gone, the dash pad is gone, has all glass except drivers side window, floors are rusted out,still has all sheet metal,though the body is covered in surface rust, including the the ram air hood, though someone scooped the scoop, would have liked to have opened the door to check axle code but the car had so much junk inside(maybe some good parts too?) I was afraid it would spill all over the place.Assuming it has the correct C-6 and N case axle, which could be anything from an open rear to a 4.30 locker,what do you guys think would be a fair price for the car? thanks |
| | $500 is the most I would pay for that (N/M) -- Big Dave, 03/29/2005
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| Help! -- Randy, 03/24/2005
I have a 1971 Ford F100 pickup with a three speed on the column and am considering going to a floor shifter. Does anyone have any suggestions and part numbers. |
| 427 Baldy Valve covers -- Birchymm, 03/24/2005
OK, so I'm surfing through Ebay to see if I can find anything worth while for my old Ford and i see a couple auctions for "Baldy" valve covers. I'm just a young pup and this term is new to me. I have been around old Ford guys for a while and have nevr heard the term. I assume this term is used when referring to FE valve covers with no "Ford" or "Thunderbird" imprints on them. Is there something else that sets them apart from other valve covers? My recent acquisition of 390/427 parts came with plain jane looking valve covers (though I didn't notice any ID numbers on them). Am I to assume that these are "Baldy" covers? They are going for a pretty penny on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...sspagename=WDVW
I didn't give them a second thought and was just planning on replacing them or maybe using my cool Gold Thunderbird covers as incorrect as that may be, i just like the looks of them. There is also a 63 427 being auctioned and he also made references to the Baldy covers.
Can anyone shed some light?
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| block question -- Jack, 03/24/2005
do all 390 block's have the holes to bolt in the clutch z-bar bracket or am i looking for certain types or years? thx jack m |
| | RE: block question -- giacamo, 03/27/2005
thay should all have the holes but look anyway i had one with only one hole, and had to finish it up with anouther. |
| 427 holman moody -- jerry, 03/24/2005
i own several fords. some years ago i purchased a 1968 mercury cyclone built by holman moody for ford motor co. it was used as a (pro) demonstrator in 68,9and70.it has 6 point cage 455 full locker rear large input top loader narrowed 9 in. drum rear manual disk front narrowed fueltank to accomedate wheel cans stage lock,etc.the car was factory 390 sent to h and m were it got a 427 upgrade the motor was pulled out before i purchased it but i still have the headers ,bell crank,velocity stacksand hood scoop, h and m made for it custom. can anyone give ne any part numbers for the factory 427 parts i need to find for this car. i was told it was a medium riser side oiler. would this be the 427 with the t bolt mains. i was told you can i.d. them by the main bolt through the block but was that the only fomoco motor to run cross bolted mains. thank you for any info you can provide |
| | RE: 427 holman moody -- jerry, 03/24/2005
this car has been mine since i was 18 i have it stored in a garage at my parents house waiting for a motor any help at all is greatly appreciated i will get a e mail address on later the wife nows computers not me. my number is 831 663 4510 if someone has all the answers. |
| | | Do you see any H-M serial number plates on the car? [b/n] -- Mr F, 03/24/2005
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| | Holman-Moody sold various kinds of 427s, in 1968. [n/m] -- Mr F, 03/24/2005
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| | I do have their '68 catalog, if you need further info. [n/m] -- Mr F, 03/24/2005
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| | RE: 427 holman moody -- jason, 05/29/2006
I just purchase a 1968 Cyclone gt and it has a holman moody intake. The previous owner advised the vehicle is a Holman Moody special addition vehicle. I can not find any information on this vehicle. Is there a V.I.N. code for this vehicle. The vehicle has a 390 with 428 heads and a 4 speed. VIN #8H15S540436. |
| | | 8H15S540436 is the VIN -- Royce, 05/29/2006
It proves your car came with a 390.
The H-M intakes were fairly popular and are on Ebay fairly often these days. The same intakes were sold with Ford, Shelby and Cobra lettering. The intake is likely worth $350 - $500 depending on how ,any people are bidding and how much they like having Holman Moody marked parts on their cars.
Holman Moody has been revived (they went out of business in the 1970's) by Lee Holman recently and he is selling some H-M parts today.
Royce |
| | | | HM parts -- Big Dave, 05/30/2006
Any new parts? Or are they original pieces? |
| | | | | RE: HM parts -- jason, 05/31/2006
I do not have any parts. I just have the HL intake on the 68 cyclone. Do you know if Holman Moody or Mercury produce a special Holman Moody 68 cyclone gt. |
| | | | | | RE: HM parts -- Royce P, 06/01/2006
Holman Moody did not make any special edition Cyclone street cars.
You can get the Marti report for your car and see exactly what it came with when new.
Royce |
| Valve Guide Installation -- Big Dave, 03/23/2005
Anyone have any experience installing valve guides? Is this something that I can do in my garage? If so what do I need to do it? Or should I just take it to my machine shop, they are a little expensive. |
| | RE: Valve Guide Installation -- giacamo, 03/27/2005
take it to a shop a good set of reamers and the equipment to do the job right for a coupel of heads now and then arent worth it. i,d have hardend seats instaled for the exaust valves and make shure thay trim the guides inthe port side flush and not leave them purtrude into the port so the exaust can cause the guide to gald to the valve. |
| 390 accesory holes? -- Roger, 03/23/2005
are the bolt patterns on the 390 heads and 460 heads the same as far as assecory bolt holes? Thanks - Roger |
| 428 block -- kenny massengale, 03/22/2005
I have a '69 mustang Mach l scj, but the build date on the block is 4C4. Does this translate to March 4, l964 and if so, did ford cast a 428 in '64?? |
| | No,Not a 428 -- Steve, 03/22/2005
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| | RE: 428 block -- Tony P., 03/22/2005
4C4 translates to March 4, 1964 or it could be march 4 , 1974 (replacement service block, don,t know how long after 1970 the continued to be made)are there any casting #s on it. It's not 9C4 is it? What's the build date on the car? |
| | | RE: 428 block -- kenny massengale, 03/27/2005
i've been told that even though it looks like a 4, it is probably a 9 so i'll just go from there. thanks tony. |
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