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 |  Installing new lifters.. -- Frank, 01/12/2004
My 410 hasn'nt been started in about 1½ month, and now I'm going to change the hydraulic lifters. What should I keep in mind when installing the new ones?Is there anything critical that should be done before installation/starting the motor?I am not replacing the cams, is that a problem? Some ppl say it's important that you soak the new lifters in oil and pump a few times, when others say that it's better no to!?
Should the lifter pre-load allso be checked in my case?
thnx a 1000! |
 | FE Pistons -- Phil, 01/11/2004
I want to run a 427 crank with Lemans rods in a passenger 428 block. which pistons should i use for the 3.78 stroke? |
|  | RE: FE Pistons -- Richard, 01/12/2004
406 pistons |
| | RE: FE Pistons -- John Saxon, 01/13/2004
Phil, Richard is correct in that you will need 406 pistons unfortunately they are made out of unobtainium and you will probably have to have some custom made.Ford 406 pistons haven't been serviced as off the shelf replacement pistons in probably 30 years by ford or the aftermarket.You may get lucky and find some on e-bay,but it may be easier to find a 428 crank use your Lemans rods and get some easily obtained forged 428 pistons.If your 27 crank is a forged steel one in good condition and not excessively undersize you should be able to sell it to cover the cost of the 28 crank and pistons. |
| |  | RE: FE Pistons -- Phil Lemoine, 01/13/2004
Thanks for the info guys, what ive got is a 64 iron 427 crank that has been balanced with the Lemans rods using mallory metal in the throws. i like to use this combo if at all possible. would domed 428 pistons compensate for the shorter stroke to keep the compression up around 10.5? I have a set of 428CJ heads that have been milled an un determined amount . Let me know what you think. Thanks Phil |
| | | | RE: FE Pistons -- John Saxon, 01/14/2004
Phil, 428 pistons have shorter compression height to work with the longer stroke 428 crank.For a given block deck height if you increase the stroke you either have to make the rod or the piston comp. height shorter in this instance ford made the piston pin hole to top distance shorter.428 pistons would be approx. .090 down the hole which would probably allow you to burn kerosene in the engine. |
| | | | | RE: FE Pistons -- Phil, 01/14/2004
Is kerosene cheaper than premium gas? |
| | | | |  | RE: FE Pistons -- John Saxon, 01/14/2004
You know I don't think it is. |
| | RE: FE Pistons -- bear, 01/17/2004
call ross pistons for $600 buck they will build you any thing you want, With any ring size or compression you want. they are lighter than trw. You are definately looking at a special order piston. I believe speed pro only makes .060 over 390 pistons and you need at least .080. if the block needs bored you are looking even more. Ross, JE , wiseco can make any thing you want. I spoke to the people at Ross very friendly and helpful. |
| | | RE: FE Pistons -- Phil, 01/17/2004
Thanks Bear, yea i thought that was my only option if i wanted to stick to this combo. |
| Vacuum unit for shaker -- BK, 01/11/2004
Currently restoring a 69 Mach1 R and the shaker is missing the vacuum device that opens the flapper. Are these devices available or is there a substitute part I can use.
BK |
| fe head gaskets -- gene simmons, 01/10/2004
so has anyone had any problems with the performance felpro gaskets when used with the edelbrock aluminum heads? is there a btter way to go ? |
| | RE: fe head gaskets -- Glenn, 01/10/2004
Funny you should bring that up. I was told by my machine shop to use a SMALL amount of silicone on the bottom of my Felpro intake manifold gaskets because I was using Edelbrock heads. I have not had any problems in that area so I don't really know if it was a necessary salvation or just an idea. Interesting anyway.
Glenn... |
| | No problem here. -- Royce, 01/10/2004
I used Fel Pro / Ford Motorsports A427 gaskets under mu Edelbrock heads. I bought one of the first sets of heads Edelbrock shipped back in December 1994. The head gaskets were no problem so far. Several thousand miles, drag racing and cruising.
The Fel Pro Print - O - Leak intake gaskets are no good though. I put Victor Reinz gaskets on the intake last time, end of story.
Royce |
| | Not a bad price for this item. -- Lou, 01/10/2004
Ebay has really changed the market in automotive literature. I have a large 49 to 64 Ford /Mercury (6000+items) collection. It has brought the price of common items way down and driven the price of rare items up. What has supprised the literature collectors is the amount of literature that is still around. I took me 35 years and almost $100,000 to build my collection. Today It still would cost about the same but I could build it in about 6 years.
I use ebay to sell my extras, ( you always buy two or three of something and a few years later you sell the extras and recover your investment or buy something else) that way out of pocket is kept reasonable. |
| Hydraulic lifters. -- Frank, 01/09/2004
Is it possible to check hydraulic valve lifter condition by applying preassure on the pushrod(with finger)?Does a sinking pushrod indicate a working hydr. valve lifter? Can all lifters be tested regardless of the crankcase position, or does a lifter appear "stiff" when raised by the camshaft lobe? |
| | RE: Hydraulic lifters. -- giacamo, 01/09/2004
hydraulic lifters job is maintain zero lash.wenthe engin is not runing the lifters will setal out and all the valves will apear closed . wen the engin is runing the hydrolic action of the lifter maintains the no slack in valve train ie no click click like solids. all the cam companeys have spects for ther liftres as in blead rate some are fast bleaders some are slow the right lifter for the right cam grind and springs is a must but in general hydrolic lifters will blead off if you push on them and pump up fairy quick wen the engine is runing.if your engine lifters chater thay are problie being oil starved ie not enuf oil pres, to maintain the hydrolic action in the lifter to maintain zero lash...... |
| 67galaxie fastback spring loads -- jeff, 01/09/2004
want to replace springs on my galaxie. my build sheet state, front spring left "red", right "green". rear spring left "orange", right "blue". car is a 390 c.i. w/auto. does anyone have a book that translates these color codes? |
| Wanted 390FE crank and rods in CA -- Mr.Bassn, 01/08/2004
I am looking for a 390 FE crank and rods free to cheap in CA .Someone has to have one lying around that they want to part with. |
| Sonic Test -- Tim P., 01/08/2004
What type of shop performs sonic test.Any idea of price range? |
| 428cj flex plate -- Chuck Brown, 01/08/2004
Overhauling the motor out of my 1968 Shelby and noticed my ring gear is chewed up in a couple of places. Anyone know if these flex plates are still available and if not what does one do? |
| | Yup. Available and nicely priced. -- Dave Shoe, 01/08/2004
Be aware there are some imported plates that are very obviously pretty awful, but they're getting pretty tough to find, last time I checked.
I believe the popular plates nowadays might be the Pioneer brand plates. Maybe they're imported too, I don't know, but they seem to get good reviews.
Try the classifieds at here at fomoco.com, or maybe try some FE specialty vendors like dscmotorsport.com or gessford.com, or any of many others.
Shoe. |
| | | yes, as Dr Dave points out.... -- hawkrod, 01/09/2004
they are readily available and inexpensive. don't bother with ebay as they tend to sell for more than you can get one for at your local parts house. also modifying a 390 is a waste of time as the effort costs more than a new one. as always when building an engine be sure to get it balanced but do not let them alter the balance of the harmonic balancer or flywheel/flexplate. if those items need replacing they have to be modified to match if the original spec is altered. any balancing should be done on the crankshaft for the whole rotating assembly so that standard replacement parts may be used in the future. hawkrod |
| | RE: 428cj flex plate -- jeff, 01/09/2004
e-bay has a flex. plate for bid, go to ford fe engines. |
| | RE: 428cj flex plate -- giacamo, 01/09/2004
i,d find a good quality 390 plate and have it ballanced with the crank and damper a good shop can take your old 428 plate and remove the counter weaght and weld it back on to the 390 plate and rebalance the asembly.390 fly weals for standerd trans aps can be modified for 428,s also.....i know this sounds like a lot of work but most 428,s need balanced anyway..... |
| | | RE: 428cj flex plate -- gene simmons, 01/10/2004
dont even need to do all of that stuff/ just bought a pioneer #FRA224 for my 410/ same one for the 428 |
| | | | RE: 428cj flex plate -- Chuck Brown, 01/11/2004
My thanks to those who have responded.The external flex plate for the C6 automatic is part number C6AZ-6375B. I can get one at Federal Mogul(Sealed Power) 416-1079 or Pioneer FRA-224. This might help someone who has an identical problem. |
| | | | | RE: 428cj flex plate -- salid, 01/11/2004
Hey Chuck, I went through the same thing on my 68 (2528) a little over 2 years ago. I got ahold of the folks at Cam Research. www.camresearchcorp.com. They have a good group of guys that are very knowledgeable about FEs.
At that time they had the best prices on good quality stuff. I got a new flexplate (from Ford), a cam (they have a nice selection of grinds to pick from), a new set of valves (I had a slightly burned exhaust valve) a new set of valve spring and keepers. They also had a selection of torque convertors matched to their cams, although I stuck with my original.
Good luck, have fun |
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