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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13035&Reply=13035><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Lifters & Cams & Rockers</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>William, <i>05/21/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>The more I read, the more confused I get! I need help on lifters; Can I use rollers and still benefit from no hassle hydraulic maintanence? I've seen "drop in rockers" in books? What is this?  What about with cam #C6OZ-6250-B or equivlent? I'm building a 390 up to 410 torker. thanks for the help. </blockquote> Lifters & Cams & Rockers -- William, 05/21/2002
The more I read, the more confused I get! I need help on lifters; Can I use rollers and still benefit from no hassle hydraulic maintanence? I've seen "drop in rockers" in books? What is this? What about with cam #C6OZ-6250-B or equivlent? I'm building a 390 up to 410 torker. thanks for the help.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13038&Reply=13035><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>OK here goes.....</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>kevin, <i>05/21/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>there are hydraulic roller lifters that can be used. But you have to use a cam just for them. Also the pushrods will be custom. Its a lot of money for not that great of a gain in my opinion. Since these engines never were designed with them in mind. Can you list more info, as a recomendation is dependant on such things as car weight, trans, gear ratio, compression, induction, exhaust, intended usage, (since you said torque monster, I think of a truck for instance). The cam you mention is a fine one from the factory, but there are many other choices that would be more in the ballpark with the supplied info. </blockquote> OK here goes..... -- kevin, 05/21/2002
there are hydraulic roller lifters that can be used. But you have to use a cam just for them. Also the pushrods will be custom. Its a lot of money for not that great of a gain in my opinion. Since these engines never were designed with them in mind. Can you list more info, as a recomendation is dependant on such things as car weight, trans, gear ratio, compression, induction, exhaust, intended usage, (since you said torque monster, I think of a truck for instance). The cam you mention is a fine one from the factory, but there are many other choices that would be more in the ballpark with the supplied info.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13048&Reply=13035><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: OK here goes.....</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>William, <i>05/21/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>I'm sorry, here it is; 66galaxie vert. C6 with a 3:55 rear, edel performer intake and carb, free flowing exhaust.<br>thanks for your help. </blockquote> RE: OK here goes..... -- William, 05/21/2002
I'm sorry, here it is; 66galaxie vert. C6 with a 3:55 rear, edel performer intake and carb, free flowing exhaust.
thanks for your help.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13056&Reply=13035><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>If you already have these parts..</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>kevin, <i>05/22/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>that C-J cam would be hard to beat. It idles smooth and gives good performance with the 3.50 gear, which it came with on an automatic equiped C-J. You can go a little bigger, but the milage will suffer. You still need to upgrade the valve springs, and retainers with the C-J cam though. What does free flowing entail? </blockquote> If you already have these parts.. -- kevin, 05/22/2002
that C-J cam would be hard to beat. It idles smooth and gives good performance with the 3.50 gear, which it came with on an automatic equiped C-J. You can go a little bigger, but the milage will suffer. You still need to upgrade the valve springs, and retainers with the C-J cam though. What does free flowing entail?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13070&Reply=13035><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: If you already have these parts..</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>William, <i>05/23/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>free flowing? Headers and  flowmasters or equivlent. any suggestions? Do I need a crossover pipe also? thanks again. </blockquote> RE: If you already have these parts.. -- William, 05/23/2002
free flowing? Headers and flowmasters or equivlent. any suggestions? Do I need a crossover pipe also? thanks again.
 RE: If you already have these parts.. -- Mike McQuesten, 05/24/2002
Anytime I can put a plug in for good old C6OZ-B camshaft, I do. Like kevin says, it's a great cam from Ford. I've tried quite a few hydraulic grinds and have been disappointed everytime. There is one exception, the hydraulic grind offered currently through Ford's High Performance parts line worked as well as the C6OZ-B.

As kevin says, decent valve springs and high quality hydraulic lifters are all you need with the C6OZ-B which was the stock cam in 390GT, '67 & later 428 PI, and the mighty Cobra Jet 428s, both stanard and Super CJ.

I'm currently running the C6-B cam in a '65 390 in my '68 F 100. It hauls like a pick up should with C-6 and 3.50 traction lock, Hedman Headers. The F100 weighs in at just over 4,100 which may be close to your '66.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13032&Reply=13032><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Anyone ever replace a C6 tailshaft bushing?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>rkutzner, <i>05/20/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have reason to believe mine may be in question.  What does it take to replace this? </blockquote> Anyone ever replace a C6 tailshaft bushing? -- rkutzner, 05/20/2002
I have reason to believe mine may be in question. What does it take to replace this?
 RE: Anyone ever replace a C6 tailshaft bushing? -- Mike Braun, 05/21/2002
There is a nifty tool made for doing this job in the car. It is a split tube with a barb at the end and a threaded shaft in the center. You push the tool into the tailhousing until the barb "clicks" over the end of the bushing. Then you turn the threaded shaft like a harmonic balancer puller and it pull out the bushing.
The new bushing must be installed with a hollow bushing driver to fit around the output shaft. If these tools are not available, you with have to remove the tailhousing from the vehicle and do it on the bench.
Be careful, it is easy to screw up the bushing if you don't have the right tools.
HTH,
Mike
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13030&Reply=13030><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>autolite spark plug equivalents</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mark, <i>05/20/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hello all,<br><br>Does anyone know what the modern day autolite number equivalent is to the older bf-32? This is going into a 66 gt390 engine. I wanted to run the 32 instead of the 42's. Thanks<br><br>Mark </blockquote> autolite spark plug equivalents -- Mark, 05/20/2002
Hello all,

Does anyone know what the modern day autolite number equivalent is to the older bf-32? This is going into a 66 gt390 engine. I wanted to run the 32 instead of the 42's. Thanks

Mark
 I believe a 33 is right..... -- kevin, 05/21/2002
and a 34 is the same as a BF 42.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13029&Reply=13029><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>blocked</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>tbolt, <i>05/20/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>i've been blocked out  of the "other FE site", so i'll have to talk to you guys over here. really miss it. one of my favorites probibly blocked because of language, so let's keep it clean over here.<br><br>thx for all your help </blockquote> blocked -- tbolt, 05/20/2002
i've been blocked out of the "other FE site", so i'll have to talk to you guys over here. really miss it. one of my favorites probibly blocked because of language, so let's keep it clean over here.

thx for all your help
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13041&Reply=13029><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>not blocked</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>05/21/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>I just checked.<br><br>You have not been blocked over at FordFE.<br><br>Shoe. </blockquote> not blocked -- Dave Shoe, 05/21/2002
I just checked.

You have not been blocked over at FordFE.

Shoe.
 This means there are blockee's? -- Walker, 05/22/2002
Curious as to who and why and who decides on blocking.

I personally think Turk should be blocked if anyone; the Mike character, and of course Stanley S. All persona non-grata at most other sites.

JMO
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13028&Reply=13028><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dannnnnnnn, <i>05/20/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>I'm going to run a 390 with the following features and need help selecting a cam.<br>*   4spd cj close ratio<br>*   428 cj heads stock but milled<br>*   Edelbrock Performer RPM<br>*   650 Holley ?<br>*   .030 over block and stock bottom end<br><br>anyone with experience have any suggestions on what cams are good?<br><br>I was thinking maybe a crane 288-H but i don't know.  Thanks for any advice!! </blockquote> cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390? -- Dannnnnnnn, 05/20/2002
I'm going to run a 390 with the following features and need help selecting a cam.
* 4spd cj close ratio
* 428 cj heads stock but milled
* Edelbrock Performer RPM
* 650 Holley ?
* .030 over block and stock bottom end

anyone with experience have any suggestions on what cams are good?

I was thinking maybe a crane 288-H but i don't know. Thanks for any advice!!
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13033&Reply=13028><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Norm F., <i>05/20/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hi<br>  Rear end ratio and approx compression ratio ?<br>               Norm </blockquote> RE: cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390? -- Norm F., 05/20/2002
Hi
Rear end ratio and approx compression ratio ?
Norm
 You will need to...... -- kevin, 05/21/2002
make the notches in the pistons a little bigger towards the outside of the existing reliefs. The C-J valves are larger and will contact the ones that are there if you run a bigger profile, especially if they are milled. Shorter pushrods are in order too, to keep the geometry correct. Also you may have to mill the intake side of the head or the intake and not use the cork end gaskets to get proper fit. This is one of the most critical areas on building an FE.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13052&Reply=13028><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dannnnnnnn, <i>05/22/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>I will probably run a 3.50 gear and i don't know about the compression ratio yet.  I'm just collecting parts for now and will put it together in a couple months.  I want a bad to the bone street car (maybe 1/4 mile every once in a while to blow off some buddies) with a mildy rough idle and yes i am running power disk brakes.  Thanks guys!! </blockquote> RE: cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390? -- Dannnnnnnn, 05/22/2002
I will probably run a 3.50 gear and i don't know about the compression ratio yet. I'm just collecting parts for now and will put it together in a couple months. I want a bad to the bone street car (maybe 1/4 mile every once in a while to blow off some buddies) with a mildy rough idle and yes i am running power disk brakes. Thanks guys!!
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13053&Reply=13028><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dannnnnnnn, <i>05/22/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>oh, I don't have pistons yet either. </blockquote> RE: cam choices for '69 Mach 1 390? -- Dannnnnnnn, 05/22/2002
oh, I don't have pistons yet either.
 I like Lunati's SPJ 285-300... -- kevin, 05/22/2002
for that combo. It will pull just enough vacuum for the brakes and has a slight lope. I ran it with a 3.50 gear and was impressed. .544 lift, 228-235 at .050, and ground on 110 lobe centers.
 FEdamper -- tbolt, 05/20/2002
has anyone used damper doctors rebuilt FE units? were you satisfied with their work.
 Heads. -- Larry, 05/18/2002
I found two set of 390 heads in my garage the other day and Im planning on putting them on my 390 build up. The casting numbers are C7AE-A and C4AE. I know there's pre-emissions crap on the C7's yet I hear you can block them off. Which head am I looking at to give me the better performance if any? Thank you for all help and information.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13022&Reply=13022><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>428 dipstick</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Phil Harvey, Jr., <i>05/18/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a '68 Shelby GT 500 with a 428 PI that is stock. For no apparent reason, it broke off about 1/2 of the oil dipstick. I tried another I had from a 428 CJ and it was also consumed. Is the problem one of the dipstick angle into the oil pan, or has something gotten loose in that area and broken it off. There is no unusual noise or rattle in the bottom end of the engine. I have tried unsucessfully to "fish" the broken dipstick out through the drain plug hole. Where can I buy some 428 dipsticks?<br>Thanks!<br>Phil </blockquote> 428 dipstick -- Phil Harvey, Jr., 05/18/2002
I have a '68 Shelby GT 500 with a 428 PI that is stock. For no apparent reason, it broke off about 1/2 of the oil dipstick. I tried another I had from a 428 CJ and it was also consumed. Is the problem one of the dipstick angle into the oil pan, or has something gotten loose in that area and broken it off. There is no unusual noise or rattle in the bottom end of the engine. I have tried unsucessfully to "fish" the broken dipstick out through the drain plug hole. Where can I buy some 428 dipsticks?
Thanks!
Phil
 RE: 428 dipstick -- Tom, 05/20/2002
well for the time being i belive they are the same for all FE 's im not sure ask around but i tihnk a 390 stick will work
 RE: 428 dipstick -- x1968x, 05/21/2002
Try
www.mansfieldmustang.com
 RE: 428 dipstick -- Ken, 08/27/2002
Phil;
There was a Ford Service Bulletin on 428 Dipsticks breaking off.
Make sure when you replace it that the loop in the handle points away from the engine.
Ken
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13017&Reply=13017><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Neutral Safety Switch on a C6</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Michael, <i>05/18/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>Does a C6 have a neutral safety switch built in?  If so where is it?  If not where is the best place to install one? </blockquote> Neutral Safety Switch on a C6 -- Michael, 05/18/2002
Does a C6 have a neutral safety switch built in? If so where is it? If not where is the best place to install one?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13019&Reply=13017><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Neutral Safety Switch on a C6</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>05/18/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>if a C6 came with a switch on it it is on the outside of the shift lever. a lot of cars with column shift have the switch on the column but if you look at the shift lever you will see a smooth area with a groove and two threaded holes in the case. the switch just slides on there behind the kickdown arm. hawkrod </blockquote> RE: Neutral Safety Switch on a C6 -- hawkrod, 05/18/2002
if a C6 came with a switch on it it is on the outside of the shift lever. a lot of cars with column shift have the switch on the column but if you look at the shift lever you will see a smooth area with a groove and two threaded holes in the case. the switch just slides on there behind the kickdown arm. hawkrod
 RE: Neutral Safety Switch on a C6 -- Michael, 05/18/2002
Thank You
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13014&Reply=13014><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Dove Manifolds</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ray, <i>05/17/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>Does anybody know if they have a web site or E mail address thanks. Ray </blockquote> Dove Manifolds -- Ray, 05/17/2002
Does anybody know if they have a web site or E mail address thanks. Ray
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13015&Reply=13014><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Dove Manifolds</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ronnie Wade, <i>05/17/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>No they do not as of last time I called. That  was about three months ago. I do have a phone # & address If that is any help. If you need it email me & I will go out to the shop and find it.  </blockquote> RE: Dove Manifolds -- Ronnie Wade, 05/17/2002
No they do not as of last time I called. That was about three months ago. I do have a phone # & address If that is any help. If you need it email me & I will go out to the shop and find it.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=13018&Reply=13014><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Dove manifold,much appreciated Ron</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Ray, <i>05/18/2002</i></font><br /><blockquote>Every facture street manifold that I've flowed, can't keep up with heads. I need to find out what doves tunnel wedge will do, if you could post phone number I'd appreciated. Thanks Ray  </blockquote> RE: Dove manifold,much appreciated Ron -- Ray, 05/18/2002
Every facture street manifold that I've flowed, can't keep up with heads. I need to find out what doves tunnel wedge will do, if you could post phone number I'd appreciated. Thanks Ray
 RE: Dove manifold,much appreciated Ron -- Ronnie Wade, 05/18/2002
Maybe this number will help (440)236-5139. Maybe if every body that calls would tell them they would probably increase their business a lot with a web site. Maybe they would. The first time It took me a lot of research just to find a # for them. We need companies like DOVE to help keep our FE's fast.
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