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| crankshaft sleeve and key -- Scott, 05/24/2003
how do i remove the key that holds the sleeve in place? |
| | If it doesn't tap out, leave it. -- Dave Shoe, 05/24/2003
I'm not a machinist, and machinists may have better methods for removing stubborn keys, but I've found the crank gear key (the one that fits into the curved slot) should be left alone if it doesn't readily pop loose with light tapping.
I've had a few extra FE crankshafts to play with lately (extra 352 and 360s) and decided to try to remove some of the more stubborn keys. The stuck keys deformed but did not come loose when I tapped them down hoping they would rock out. I also tryed to punch-pry another crank, but no luck either.
Obviously, the square damper key is easily removed, and must be removed to access the curved crank gear key. It's the crank gear key that can be a pest.
From my recent experiments, I've learned to leave them alone if they don't slip out with light tapping. Also, if the key is actually loose (sloppy in the slot), then it could create a different problem, so pray for good fit.
If you are referring to the square key that holds the damper in place, you are in luck, because a snug damper key means your damper will likely not be shaking loose during operation - a situation which can damage the crank snout. To remove a snug damper key, tighten a muffler clamp onto the crank spacer and use a hook-type puller on the muffler clamp to slide the sleeve and key off all at once. It works slick.
Note also that I used to curse the dampers that require a puller to slide off the crank snout, and I used to praise the dampers that slide off without a tool, until I learned that a loose fitting damper can cause the damper bolt to loosen over time, and this can cause problems when you least expect them.
Good luck.
Shoe. |
| Edelbrock 427 Aluminum Heads -- Tom, 05/22/2003
I just bought a set of Edelbrock 600719 Aluminum Heads. I have weber carbs/intake. Will they match up with these heads?
Thanks,
Tom |
| Crankshaft and Valve Removal -- Scott, 05/22/2003
This is my first time rebuilding an engine. I have been doing fairly well until last night. I rented a harmonic balancer remover and a valve spring compressing tool.
does anyone have tips on removing the valves (those locks are tough to break open on a 35 year old engine)?
how do i get the crankshaft damper off? someone told me the harmonic balancer remover would work? |
| | RE: '62-'64 HP modified -- McQ, 05/21/2003
That's a '62 - '64 Open Element lid that has been modified to accept a PCV/breather tube of some type. Possibly to meet new for the mid sixties California emission laws. It was fairly common to see pre emission cars modified in some way to have a tube running from the air cleaner to a oil cap/breather. I can't remember the details, actually I never really knew the details, about the Cali laws which were the first in the nation I believe.
FoMoCo actually had a tube installed for various cars but typically it was on the bottom plate not stuck on/in the top lid. Again I think these were for cars sold in Californina.
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| | | RE: '62-'64 HP modified -- David, 05/21/2003
Thanks for the info, The smog tube is factory original, there is no tube in the bottom plate. It also has a chrome oil cap with a "FoMoCo" logo and 90° bent smog nipple. David |
| | | | RE: Very Interesting.... -- McQ, 05/21/2003
and strange.
Could it have been a very early one and then someone got the bright idea...."hey why don't we stick this Cali Smog tube on the bottom plate?" |
| | | | | That's exactly what it is - possibly for a '63 Sprint Falcon. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/22/2003
n/m |
| stuck rope seal -- Steve, 05/20/2003
Please help! I'm attempting to replace the rear crankshaft "rope" seal on my '75 302 motor, still in the car. I've got a replacement neoprene seal kit. The upper rope seal is stuck, and I can't drive it out with a punch, even while rotating the crankshaft. The seal is just collapsing inside the groove. I've smashed it in about 1/2" so far on one end. What now? THANKS! |
| | Wrong forum, but here goes.... -- John, 05/21/2003
I am pretty sure the rope seal uses a little pin protruding out of the block (upper half). The pin has to be removed to put in the neoprene seal, and of course will cause the rope seal to appear stuck. Sorry to tell you, but you have to drop the crank to do this. It's possible I remember incorrectly and the pin is in the bearing cap, so check there first. There will only be one pin regardless. |
| | Update -- John, 05/21/2003
I checked my book and the pin is in the bearing cap. So, to remove the rope seal, I would suggest loosening all of the main bearing caps and lowering the crank as much as you can without removing the caps completely. The seal doesn't want to slide out, it will come out by prying it out of the groove. So with the crank dropped slightly, you can create the same effect by gripping the seal with needlenose vice-grips and pulling down away from the groove. You will probably have to remove the cam chain cover,, but perhaps you can lower the crank at an angle by loosening the caps in a progressive fashion, but I would remove the cover to keep it from being damaged. Besides, you should probably replace the front seal also. |
| 390 2V heads....to modify or not? -- Theo Aftonomos, 05/19/2003
If not, what heads should I search for? This is for a build-up in a heavy street car, so I'm looking for good mid and low end, not high HP at 7000rpm!
Any suggestions as far as head, cam, and intake manifold would be appriciated. Keep in mind I'm on a budget and can't get a hogan's intake manifold :D
Thanks all! |
| | RE: 390 2V heads....to modify or not? -- Gerry Proctor, 05/20/2003
If you're not looking for higher rpm, then there's not a whole lot of bang for the buck in modifying or replacing the stock heads. FE heads flow exceptionally well compared to other Ford or non-Ford heads so the urgency to port, blend bowls, multi-angle valve and such just doesn't have as much of a payoff.
You're under the assumption that there is some difference in 2V and 4V heads. There isn't. There are different head types, like Cobra Jet, medium risers, low risers, tunnel ports and such but none of these are necessary for your described needs. An example: The heads on a 67 Galaxy wagon with a 390 2bbl are substantially the same as on a Shelby GT500. So just about any FE truck or passenger car heads you find laying around will do fine. Put the money into a good valve job with guides and seals.
If you're not interested in performance over 5k rpm, then look at the Edelbrock Performer (not Performer RPM) or if you're not weight conscious even a factory iron 4V intake.
Call a cam company and get their advice for what would be an appropriate cam for you. They'll ask a lot of questions about how you drive the car, transmission type, gear ratio, vehicle weight and such so be prepared. |
| | RE: 390 2V heads....to modify or not? -- Matt, 11/12/2003
I have a 67 Ford Thunderbird and have put on the Edelbrock Power system. The package I got was the Idle to 5000 rpm. It seems as if you had the same dilema as I did. I went with the Edelbrock bolt on complete heads instead. That was going to be cheaper than fixing my old ones. You will have to go with the upgraded adjustable rocker arms But I think it is worth it. |
| Steering column color -- John, 05/18/2003
What color is on the steering column? Have tried a color named Black Metallic with color code AP-4464. It looks like it is a litle on the light side compared to the original color. The car is a 68 Shelby.
John |
| | | Thanks n/m -- John, 05/19/2003
Thanks n/m |
| shock towers -- Chris, 05/18/2003
My brother in law has a 67 fairlane hardtop and asked me if I could find an answer to his question: How do I get rid of the shock towers?
Thanks! |
| Exhaust question -- Mike, 05/17/2003
I just put some hooker super comp. headers on my old mercury. I am looking for ideas for exhaust. Should I run an X pipe or H pipe. I dont know what is better for my application. What have you guys had luck with on your FEs? Thanks |
| | Sorry for the detour, but which heads? -- Dave Shoe, 05/18/2003
Since Supercomps only work on some FE car heads, it's good to make sure you've got the right heads.
What year engine is it, and do you know what the head casting numbers are (found between the center spark plugs).
H-pipe offers a bit more volume (you still get much of the V-8 burble sound), an X pipe a quieter, smoother, more Indy-car like sound.
I run a modified X-pipe design of mu own making, and I really like it. The car can have a warmer cam and still remain neighborhood friendly. Still, the rump-rump sound of a standard H-type crossover is nice, if the volume isn't too high.
Shoe. |
| | X Pipe versus H pipe. -- Ford offers them., 05/25/2003
An X pipe typically gives more midrange torque than a H pipe but chassis configuration may limit you to an H pipe design. Regardless of which one you go with, put it as close to the engine as possible. |
| | | X Pipe source -- Louie, 05/25/2003
http://www.onestopexhaust.com/detail.cfm?menu_id=9811 |
| | RE: Exhaust question -- 390ranger, 05/28/2003
they claim the x-pipe helps with the flow of exhaust gases. hot rod and car craft have dyno'd them on a small block chevy(imagine That) and the x-pipe was close to open (no mufflers)exhaust hp and torque numbers. i am in the process of installing one on my pro street 83 ranger. |
| Front Suspension Rebuild -- Kathy, 05/17/2003
Could someone please recommend a front end rebuild kit for a 67 Convertible with a 390? Stock vrs. poly? What type shocks? Also I am considering changing out the coils, swaybar and springs. I would like to stay with a stock look but with todays tech. Thanks! |
| | RE: Front Suspension Rebuild -- Charlie, 05/17/2003
I've always had good luck with the poly parts. I'm getting ready to put a set of the 620 springs in my 67, I've never used them but I hear good things, they will lower the car about 1" in front.
I also added a rear sway bar and am putting in a 1" sway bar in the front. Good ideas for the shock towers include a 1 piece export brace and a monte carlo bar help wonders on tired shock towers.
Charlie |
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