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| T-Bird brake drums -- Ken Powers, 12/08/2004
OK thanks to the forum the rear break drum is now off (but will need replaced.) I know I''m talking 65 T-Bird not Mustang but maybe ya'll can help. Is there a swap out drum available (maybe from the junk yard) that is the same as the original drums? |
| Durn brake drum -- Ken Powers, 12/08/2004
The drivers side rear brake drum seems to have rusted itself on. solvent and a big hammer hasn't respolved the problem in 3 days. Have disconnected the brake line to reduce internal pressure, Didn't help. Am accepting any and all suggestions. |
| | Fire wrench -- mns, 12/08/2004
Going to need some heat. Now that I said that. I knew a old timer that had a junkyard that would loosen up rust with water. He would spray it on a rotor or drum, wait 15 minutes and pop it it with a hammer. I tried with a pulley and it worked..I guess water is the thinest liquid . Lots of luck |
| | RE: Durn brake drum -- dave, 12/08/2004
trans fluid is very thin and if that fails use ice on the axle flange and heat on the drum. dry ice works best but is very rough to work with as it will STICK TO YOU. |
| | RE: Durn brake drum -- Ken Powers, 12/08/2004
Thanks Dave the drum finally gave in and quit |
| More 390 questions -- rarefords, 12/06/2004
I posted the 390 rod questions a few days ago. Thanks for the replies. Let me go a little further now. I am planning on the basic build up. This includes Edlebrock Performer Rpm heads and intake, 280H Comp cam, headers, possible roller rockers, 650 or 750 cfm carb, MSD 6A ignition, ARP bolts through out, etc. Will those stock rods with ARP bolts be OK to use in this build up ? Also any thoughts on this whole plan would be appreciated. Thanks! |
| | RE: More 390 questions -- giacamo, 12/07/2004
stock rods with arp bolts are a great idea, your bild sounds decent.if your going to race it, i,d use a deaper pan windage tray a melling hv pump, not the hp pump. the hv only,drill and tap all the oil gallery plug holes and install allen plugs. i hate the stock pushin tipe if ever one comes out youd wish you instaled allen plugs,i also like to use the older tipe rocker arm tin with the oil shouts that chanels alot of the oil back past the pushrods. |
| Engine Question -- Ken Powers, 12/06/2004
Is the 390 cu. in. motor in my 65 T-bird an FE or does FE indicate fuel injected?
Seems to say 390 4v V-8 producing 300 HP. Can anyone help me learn a bit more about this motor?
Thanks |
| | | 'FE' the final truth.... -- John, 12/06/2004
OK......this has gone on so long, I feel I have to finally yield the results of my years of research. First of all, nice tactful reponse Mr. F, for a long, and often hotly debated issue, even though Ken wasn't really asking for a resolution.
So...FE does NOT stand for Ford Edsel, Ford Engine, chemical symbol for Iron, etc. It actually stands for "Foundry Error". You see, at the time, Ford was working on it's prototype slant-4. Not sure if they wanted clockwise or counterclockwise rotation, mirror image molds were made. Then some poor bugger at the foundry actually got the molds mixed up...right and left halves at least, .... and then purely by accident the FE was born. Sad to say, that poor lad got the sack. Too bad, as he is mainly responsible for the FE and and the heyday of Ford's racing days. Oh well, rumour has it Chev hired him, but he failed to goof up there and the Corvette program never really did get successful. |
| | | | RE: 'FE' the final truth.... -- Ken Powers, 12/08/2004
Awsome I am much enlightened and I thank you both very much |
| Distributor info -- Ken Powers, 12/06/2004
A little off the mark I'm sure but here goes. I have acquired a 65 T-bird with a 390 cu. in. motor. I need distributor info. Is it a vacuum advance and is it single or dual point?
Thanks, Ken |
| help engine info -- Jack, 12/06/2004
I need to fing a 390 s code engine for a 69 mach 1. Im trying to figure out which block I need. what is the diffrence between s code and a regular 390 or truck 390? I want to put somthing in where I gain most hp. Ive heard a lot of pros and cons about the 390 so I want to make sure I do it right. what should I look for? I foung one guy local to me that claims he has a s code block with interceptor heads? is this correct? also how do I verify what he claims? #'s on heads,block etc.. This is my first big block car so all this is new to me. Thanks Jack |
| | RE: He may be correct but completly irrelevant. -- Gerry Proctor, 12/06/2004
As far as blocks go, all 390s are created equal. There is no "S" code, interceptor, or Hipo block that is any different than what went into a same year Galaxy station wagon with a 2bbl. There are some 390 blocks that had triangulation in the main web skirt bulkheads but there's no rhyme or reason as to when or where you may find these blocks, though it doesn't make a big difference whether you do or don't. The only thing to look out for is the motor mount difference between '64 and earlier and the '65 and later blocks.
391 Truck blocks are slightly different but not in any significant sense. And just so you understand, a 390 out of a truck is not a 391 truck block. There are some differences (like the distributor pilot diameter and the possibility of thicker cylinder wall material allowing for the potential for an .080" 428-sized overbore) in real heavy duty truck blocks but, again, nothing to write home about.
Same story on the 390 heads. The only difference between a '67 GT "S" code head and the '67 Galaxy wagon 2bbl head is the valve springs. They are otherwise absolutely identical. Some 390 heads are slightly (read that as very slightly) better than others but they are still pretty much the same as far as airflow and porting potential. If you post the casting numbers, just about anyone here can provide deeper insight. Or once you have the numbers, do a search on this site to find out all you will ever need to know about these particular FE heads.
So, he may be absolutely correct in the way he's pitching his merchandise. But his parts are no different than the non-descript Galaxy wagon parts. Makes them cost more, but they are identical. |
| | RE: help engine info -- giacamo, 12/07/2004
the only biggie on a 69 mach1 with a 390 i,d be conserned about is the exaust manifolds.you can find headers to fit any head but to remain stock the horizontel bolt pateran exaust manifolds are getting hard to find.that fit the unibody fords,wen i chery pick blocks i prefor the webed blocks but normily any block will do i like the pre 65 heads but thear not cast for the horizontel exaust manifolds,that are neaded for unibody fords unles you use headers.try listing some numbers thears a lot of fe guys on this web site that will try to help you. |
| 390 questions -- rarefords, 12/04/2004
I am in the process of rebuilding the 390 in my Mach 1. When I took it apart it was evident someone has been into it before. I have seven rods with the football shaped bolt heads and a part #C7AE-B and one rod with the more square type bolt head and part # C6AE-C. Which one is for the 390 and would these be good enough to use in a typical build up consisting of Edlebrock Performer RPM heads and intake, larger carb, 280H Comp cam and Super comp headers, etc. Also my crank carries this part # C4AE_B. Which crank is this? Thanks for any help! |
| 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- William Goolsby, 12/03/2004
Looking for info on converting my 390 fe into efi. Looked at edelbrock and holley. Only found coast high performance and I cant get very much info from them. I want and will take any info anyone has. Thanks. |
| | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- Charlie, 12/03/2004
The best solution I've found is using the generic holley kit to build your own dpi unit. The TBI units aren't bad, but if you are going to spend the cash why not go the extra and get a set up that will really make a difference.
This is a great article to start with. http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/5228/
A budy of mine and myself have been thinking about making a fex holley commander set ups using edelbrock rpm intake manifolds and selling them over the net. We each run one on our mustangs. There are some places on the net that will make them for you but they want from $1500 to $3500 plus you suply the intake manifold and certain other parts. Total cost ends up being around $5k. Kind of spendy.
Good luck Charlie |
| | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- peter costa, 12/04/2004
bill, i work at a local speed shop here in san jose ca, and my boss has successly installed mpfi onto most engines. im sure he could convert a manifold for you. if you're in the bay area of calif. im sure you already know where we are. |
| | | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- William Goolsby, 12/04/2004
Nope no where near california. In panama city florida. What would be the going price on your setup Charlie? Peter, what's the price on your bosses conversion? Thanks. |
| | | | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- peter costa, 12/06/2004
hi bill, my boss says that to convert a manifold either 2 plane or single plane, starts at 500. dollars, does not include injectors. |
| | | | | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- William Goolsby, 12/06/2004
Yeah only found one place that will take your intake and convert it for EFI starts at $2800. By the way whats the diff between a dual and single plane manifold, low and high rise? I plan on running edelbrock heads and intake, crane cam but not sure on hydraulic or rollers? Any help? |
| | | | | | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- peter costa, 12/07/2004
for an mpfi conversion a sinle plane type manifold would be best , like an edelbrck torqer or victor, etc., single plane ties all runners to a single trottle body better and more evenly. if u can afford a roller set up then go with it as it can open and close the valves faster than a flat tappet hydralic could , but you really need to figure how the engine will be operated. most roller cams emphasis is high rpm horsepower, so if thats what your after then a roller is for you. |
| | | | | | | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- William Goolsby, 12/07/2004
I want power from idle to 5500, I wont be running much higher than that too often. |
| | | | | | | | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- William Goolsby, 12/11/2004
up............... |
| | | | | | | | | RE: 390 FE EFI conversion?? -- William Goolsby, 12/20/2004
Spoke with Dave at Momar injection. http://www.momarefi.com/quote.html Nice guy, talked for a while about everything I could do with my engine. Didn't try to sell me anything, just answered my questions and told me what he thought about the different intakes I brought up. |
| Phosphate/oil finish -- Mike Ruggiano, 12/03/2004
What would be the proper way to duplicate the phosphate/oil finish for the coil bracket for my 67FB BB? I tried detail grey over black but do not like the finish. Any help would be appreciated |
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