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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23008&Reply=23008><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Has anyone shipped a car cross country?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>10/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>My mustang is in Mn, and I am in California.  Has anyone had some experience in transporting cars cross country?  I have looked a few places on the net for prices, but would rather have some input from people who have actually done it!! As always, thanks for all the help!! </blockquote> Has anyone shipped a car cross country? -- BB67FB, 10/19/2004
My mustang is in Mn, and I am in California. Has anyone had some experience in transporting cars cross country? I have looked a few places on the net for prices, but would rather have some input from people who have actually done it!! As always, thanks for all the help!!
 been ther, dun that. -- junior mints, 10/19/2004
Shipped one in 92' from Dallas to L.A. Cost me 900.00 then. When I got it it had gotten scratched and egged. Shipper had exclusion for such damage. Check all that stuff before putting your car and your money down. I will not do it again unless I was totally covered.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23005&Reply=23005><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Holman Moody FE parts</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Dano, <i>10/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I see that Ford  Racing is selling repros of old Holman Moody intakes, cams, valve covers etc. for FE engines, has anyone tried these out?  I am curious to see how they perform. </blockquote> Holman Moody FE parts -- Dano, 10/19/2004
I see that Ford Racing is selling repros of old Holman Moody intakes, cams, valve covers etc. for FE engines, has anyone tried these out? I am curious to see how they perform.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23026&Reply=23005><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Hadn't seen those. Got a link to that page? [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>10/20/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> Hadn't seen those. Got a link to that page? [n/m] -- Mr F, 10/20/2004
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 RE: Here's H-Ms parts page from their site. -- Gerry Proctor, 10/20/2004
http://www.holmanmoody.com/parts/hardpart.htm

Not the Ford Racing catalog but probably about the same, or nearly.
 RE: Hadn't seen those. Got a link to that page? [n/m] -- Dano, 10/20/2004
Mr F, I don't have a link to the web page, I have the catalog and pages 178 and 179 have the Holman Moody parts, they list 6 Cams for the FE, and they show the Weber carb intakes as well as 4V and 8V single and dual quad types. they also show a very factory looking oval air cleaner, for 3X2, 2X4 single 4bbl.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23004&Reply=23004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>ford 427 marine motors</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>gzamp, <i>10/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>yes i know one is a reverse rotation,  but what would one think 2 motors in great condition be worth,  both are highly identified as 427 with decals and both are 1968 vintage...guy getting divorce and wants $3000 for both<br><br>is it worth it,  fully dressed marine motors also,  can these be put into cars or is there to many diffences<br><br><br>gzamp </blockquote> ford 427 marine motors -- gzamp, 10/19/2004
yes i know one is a reverse rotation, but what would one think 2 motors in great condition be worth, both are highly identified as 427 with decals and both are 1968 vintage...guy getting divorce and wants $3000 for both

is it worth it, fully dressed marine motors also, can these be put into cars or is there to many diffences


gzamp
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23009&Reply=23004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: ford 427 marine motors</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>gzamp, <i>10/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>any idea of value before i lose my chnace to get these motors... </blockquote> RE: ford 427 marine motors -- gzamp, 10/19/2004
any idea of value before i lose my chnace to get these motors...
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23042&Reply=23004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>is $2500 to much for the pair in excellent shape</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>gzamp, <i>10/20/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>just trying to get some feedback,  may consider selling one of them </blockquote> is $2500 to much for the pair in excellent shape -- gzamp, 10/20/2004
just trying to get some feedback, may consider selling one of them
 Sounds high. Check out the info in these related threads... -- Mr F, 10/21/2004
http://www.jcoconsulting.com/forumfe/reply.aspx?ID=15954&Reply=15954
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http://www.jcoconsulting.com/forumfe/reply.aspx?ID=11085&Reply=11085
http://www.jcoconsulting.com/forumfe/reply.aspx?ID=10794&Reply=10794
http://www.jcoconsulting.com/forumfe/reply.aspx?ID=12600&Reply=12600
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23058&Reply=23004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: is $2500 to much for the pair in excellent shape</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Glenn, <i>10/21/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>$2500 is not bad if they are in really good condition. Thats the norm i see out here in CT and they are mostly corroded crap. G. </blockquote> RE: is $2500 to much for the pair in excellent shape -- Glenn, 10/21/2004
$2500 is not bad if they are in really good condition. Thats the norm i see out here in CT and they are mostly corroded crap. G.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23133&Reply=23004><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>could it really be sideoilers in marine trim ??</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>glennz, <i>10/26/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>ok here is the deal,  i went to look at motors first hand,  they are definetly marine motors fully dressed, out of a 68 chris craft,  here is the kicker,  it looks to me like they are defenitly side oilers,  by what my books show, the 3 little plugs between the cross bolt main cap bolts and the screw in freeze plugs,  the 3 holes are tapped and plugged with pipe plugs just like what my books show as a side oiler 427<br><br>any comments or suggestions,  being sideoilers what is the worth now ?? </blockquote> could it really be sideoilers in marine trim ?? -- glennz, 10/26/2004
ok here is the deal, i went to look at motors first hand, they are definetly marine motors fully dressed, out of a 68 chris craft, here is the kicker, it looks to me like they are defenitly side oilers, by what my books show, the 3 little plugs between the cross bolt main cap bolts and the screw in freeze plugs, the 3 holes are tapped and plugged with pipe plugs just like what my books show as a side oiler 427

any comments or suggestions, being sideoilers what is the worth now ??
 RE: could it really be sideoilers in marine trim ?? -- Glenn, 10/31/2004
Well I'd say if they are true sideoilers then grab em for the $2500 as long as you feel the condition is well useable. Corrosion as mentioned is always the thing with marine engines. I've seen a few that you would cry over. You can sell some of the marine parts and the other engine to recoupe your investment. I'd say you could easily walk away with a free one with selling the other and unused parts. I've heard of the true sideoilers being used when the stock was low. Supply and demand and Chris Craft had their contract with Ford a needed engines and replacement parts no matter what. Even Shelby was bumped and had to use 428's for the cobras....funny. G.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23003&Reply=23003><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>#identification</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>jeff, <i>10/19/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have some parts i was hoping someone could help me identify . The first is a carb (autolite) its a slight spreadbore , number on tag is C8AF.  Two intakes numbers are C80E-9425-C, and C8AE 9425-F. And finally a nice pair of exhaust manifold headers (short style) number is CCAE8431-B. I wondered what these may of come off of.<br>              <br>                  thanks for any help jeff </blockquote> #identification -- jeff, 10/19/2004
I have some parts i was hoping someone could help me identify . The first is a carb (autolite) its a slight spreadbore , number on tag is C8AF. Two intakes numbers are C80E-9425-C, and C8AE 9425-F. And finally a nice pair of exhaust manifold headers (short style) number is CCAE8431-B. I wondered what these may of come off of.

thanks for any help jeff
 RE: #identification -- McQ, 10/20/2004
One item I can help you with is the intake C8OE-C, that's a 428 CJ intake. Don't recognize the other intake #. The C8A Autolite carb is likely from a '68-later 4V application. Maybe from a 429?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=23025&Reply=23003><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Carb # is incomplete; 'CCAE8431A' can't be right, either. [n/m]</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>10/20/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> Carb # is incomplete; 'CCAE8431A' can't be right, either. [n/m] -- Mr F, 10/20/2004
n/m
 RE: Carb # is incomplete; 'CCAE8431A' can't be right, either. [n/m] -- jeff, 10/20/2004
mr f you are correct i didnt see the rest of the carb # its C8AF AS A 8026, on the exhaust manifold header their is another # it is CCAES430B , underneath that number is an A A161 number. These header style exhuast manifolds have a two bolt per port and the bottom middle holes are slotted .

thanks jeff
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22993&Reply=22993><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>possible 428 purchase</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>10/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I found a 428 block with 390 heads and a crank that has some kind of small crack in it, but according to the owner it can be fixed. everything is there except for the intake and exhaust manifolds, and the engine has been bored .030 over. He also has a flywheel that is in good shape. Any idea how much this is worth? how much is too much? ! dont have casting numbers yet, but will check out more thoroughly once he has decided on a price. Thanks again for everyones help, this site is awesome!!<br>nick </blockquote> possible 428 purchase -- BB67FB, 10/18/2004
I found a 428 block with 390 heads and a crank that has some kind of small crack in it, but according to the owner it can be fixed. everything is there except for the intake and exhaust manifolds, and the engine has been bored .030 over. He also has a flywheel that is in good shape. Any idea how much this is worth? how much is too much? ! dont have casting numbers yet, but will check out more thoroughly once he has decided on a price. Thanks again for everyones help, this site is awesome!!
nick
 RE: possible 428 purchase -- McQ, 10/18/2004
definitely check it out very carefully. A small crack in the crank or the block? Check it out! Measure the bore carefully. The bore of 4.16 may be the maximum allowed. I think I'd have it torn down, sonic checked/mapped with an aggreed upon price with the seller. It the block/crank all turn out fine, you should be able to get the crank/block for $400. If it was a primo block and crank, maybe upwards to $600/$700. And maybe I'm dreaming of prices a few years ago.

428 standard - non CJ all had the same heads as 390's. The port/size varied from '66-'68. The only really unique 428 head was the CJ - C8OE-N.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22990&Reply=22990><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>390 Headers</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lew, <i>10/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Opinion please on FPA vs. Crites Restoration Headers for a 390 in a 1969 Mach 1.  The heads are C8AE H . The car is automatic and has power steering.  Do not want to cut shock towers to fit headers.<br>How much performance improvement can be anticiapted over stock exhaust manifold?  Is ceramic coating worth additional cost?<br><br>      Thanks in advance.  </blockquote> 390 Headers -- Lew, 10/18/2004
Opinion please on FPA vs. Crites Restoration Headers for a 390 in a 1969 Mach 1. The heads are C8AE H . The car is automatic and has power steering. Do not want to cut shock towers to fit headers.
How much performance improvement can be anticiapted over stock exhaust manifold? Is ceramic coating worth additional cost?

Thanks in advance.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22992&Reply=22990><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: FPAs will fit.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gerry Proctor, <i>10/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>You need the headers for the 14-bolt unibody head if those C8 heads are original to your car.<br><br>Other headers are very "iffy" on the fit since the flange isn't made specifically for the low-port unibody head.  Some folks do okay with getting them to fit but most are plagued by exhaust leaks due to the port misalignment.<br><br>Now none of this means that it's smooth sailing.  No matter whose headers you use, you'll swear that there's no way the headers were made for your car.  A lift or some other method to get the car three to four feet in the air will help a lot.  Be prepared to do some tweaking on the tubes.  No, you will not have to cut the shock towers but that's about it.<br><br>Yes, ceramic coating is a great benefit unless you want to do this again in a couple or three years or so depending on what elements the tubes are subjected to.<br><br>Power increase depends on everything else about the engine.  Ten to 15 horses on the small end.  More horsepower if the engine has the ability to breath deep.  </blockquote> RE: FPAs will fit. -- Gerry Proctor, 10/18/2004
You need the headers for the 14-bolt unibody head if those C8 heads are original to your car.

Other headers are very "iffy" on the fit since the flange isn't made specifically for the low-port unibody head. Some folks do okay with getting them to fit but most are plagued by exhaust leaks due to the port misalignment.

Now none of this means that it's smooth sailing. No matter whose headers you use, you'll swear that there's no way the headers were made for your car. A lift or some other method to get the car three to four feet in the air will help a lot. Be prepared to do some tweaking on the tubes. No, you will not have to cut the shock towers but that's about it.

Yes, ceramic coating is a great benefit unless you want to do this again in a couple or three years or so depending on what elements the tubes are subjected to.

Power increase depends on everything else about the engine. Ten to 15 horses on the small end. More horsepower if the engine has the ability to breath deep.
 RE: FPAs will fit. -- salid, 10/18/2004
If you're going with the FPAs, get the ceramic coating. Mine have been in for a couple of years and the chrome is getting faded. I really like them, they sound good, feel good and fit good. I just wish now that I had gone with the coating, so that when I open the hood, they looked as good as they sound/feel/fit. I have not had it on a dyno, but my smiles per gallon went way up. BTW, these are on a '68 500KR convertible. About 5 years ago, I took my Hookers off (they had been on since 1974) and went back to they cast iron manifolds and a repop stock exhaust from Branda. I hated it. It actually wheezed. Now it has the FPAs and Flowmasters. That is the way God intended a Ford to sound. (you did know that He drives a '68 KR fastback, didn't you. And all that stuff in the Bible about the smoke and the flames and the thunder, it all come from His ride. Ok, so maybe I do have a bias toward '68 Shelbys and a somewhat overactive imagination.)
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22986&Reply=22986><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Thunderbirder 428</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Lingo, <i>10/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Where do I look for the markings on the engine or mounts<br><br>Rides great </blockquote> Thunderbirder 428 -- Lingo, 10/18/2004
Where do I look for the markings on the engine or mounts

Rides great
 If you're trying to ID the engine, read this... -- Mr F, 10/20/2004
http://www.jcoconsulting.com/ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=594&Reply=591
 Exhaust tip -- Joe, 10/17/2004
Does anyone know a a stainlees dual tip that fits 2 1/2 " pipe that bolts on nicely.

Thanks, Joe
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22973&Reply=22973><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>ID surge tank</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>salid, <i>10/16/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>can some one ID a surge tank with  C1AE-A #?  It has horizontal bolt pattern which means that it would have to have an intake that matches.  T-bird maybe? </blockquote> ID surge tank -- salid, 10/16/2004
can some one ID a surge tank with C1AE-A #? It has horizontal bolt pattern which means that it would have to have an intake that matches. T-bird maybe?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22981&Reply=22973><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: ID surge tank</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>McQ, <i>10/17/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hey Greg,  with a C1AE-A it's likely to be a full size tank.  All the full size Fords and 'birds used the tanks as part of the cooling system.  The difference was in placement of the coolant inlet hole.  292's and FE's had the same bolt pattern on the flange.  Then the 223's were different altogether.<br><br>If it's an FE tank, the coolant inlet hole will be on the right side/pass. side - just like thinking of the right side of the engine in relationship to sitting in the seat.  The 292 Y block's tank will have the coolant entry hole on the left/driver's side of the tank.<br><br>Hope that helps you.<br><br> </blockquote> RE: ID surge tank -- McQ, 10/17/2004
Hey Greg, with a C1AE-A it's likely to be a full size tank. All the full size Fords and 'birds used the tanks as part of the cooling system. The difference was in placement of the coolant inlet hole. 292's and FE's had the same bolt pattern on the flange. Then the 223's were different altogether.

If it's an FE tank, the coolant inlet hole will be on the right side/pass. side - just like thinking of the right side of the engine in relationship to sitting in the seat. The 292 Y block's tank will have the coolant entry hole on the left/driver's side of the tank.

Hope that helps you.

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22994&Reply=22973><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: ID surge tank</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>salid, <i>10/18/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Sorry, I should have posted a pic the first time.  Thanks for your help, McQ, but I'm thinking these (there was 2 of them in the box) are not FE tanks.  The water pump tube is on the bottom in the middle, and the bolt holes are horizontal.  The tank is offset to the left side of the motor.  A guy might be able to make a short tank setup out of them, but you'd need the correct thermostat housing to do it.  You do find the strangest things in a box of FE parts.  At least the heads are good.  $75 for a set of C6AE-R isn't bad.  OK, OK, so I'm a gullible old fool, don't any of you guys call me trying to sell a box good FE parts.<br><br>[Image deleted by Admin.] </blockquote> RE: ID surge tank -- salid, 10/18/2004
Sorry, I should have posted a pic the first time. Thanks for your help, McQ, but I'm thinking these (there was 2 of them in the box) are not FE tanks. The water pump tube is on the bottom in the middle, and the bolt holes are horizontal. The tank is offset to the left side of the motor. A guy might be able to make a short tank setup out of them, but you'd need the correct thermostat housing to do it. You do find the strangest things in a box of FE parts. At least the heads are good. $75 for a set of C6AE-R isn't bad. OK, OK, so I'm a gullible old fool, don't any of you guys call me trying to sell a box good FE parts.

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 RE:MEL Series? -- McQ, 10/18/2004
Just took a stroll in the rain out back to the boneyard to have a gander at a '61 223 car and for sure what you're showing us is not that style. Took another close look at some spare FE/Y block tanks and again you're right, it's not one of those.

I don't have a single MEL car - 383-430. Could it possibly be for one of those?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22972&Reply=22972><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>65 galaxie 390 with 3spd/overdrive tranny??</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>BB67FB, <i>10/16/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>there is a 390 out of a galaxie near me with a 3 speed with overdrive transmission for sale. i have never heard of a trans with overdrive that old. any one have some info? may purchase it for my mustang. thanks! </blockquote> 65 galaxie 390 with 3spd/overdrive tranny?? -- BB67FB, 10/16/2004
there is a 390 out of a galaxie near me with a 3 speed with overdrive transmission for sale. i have never heard of a trans with overdrive that old. any one have some info? may purchase it for my mustang. thanks!
 RE: 65 galaxie 390 with 3spd/overdrive tranny?? -- McQ, 10/17/2004
Most likely it's a Borg-Warner T-85. This was a very strong heavy duty transmission. First usage was actually in '51 Lincolns. Commonly used in Big Block HD applications into the 70's (in pick ups).

They're great 3 speed, 70% overdrive, with a non-synchro first gear.
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