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Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22757&Reply=22757><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>trans numbers</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Jason, <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a trans for a FE. It is a four speed and the code is C8AR 7006-D. If anyone can tell me what this is out of and what I should sell it for the help would be great. Thanks Jason </blockquote> trans numbers -- Jason, 09/06/2004
I have a trans for a FE. It is a four speed and the code is C8AR 7006-D. If anyone can tell me what this is out of and what I should sell it for the help would be great. Thanks Jason
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22759&Reply=22757><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: That's just the case casting number.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gerry Proctor, <i>09/07/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Which tells you just about nothing other than it is for a '68 and later application.  It's probably a big in (1 3/8") and big out (31-spline) if it came off the back of an FE.  For the most part, the tailshaft number gives you the indication of what it would fit, not necessarily what its original application was.  But the little metal tag that might still be attached to the passenger side of the case would tell you the original application(like RUG ** or HEH **) as long as the trans hasn't been altered.<br><br>As for what it might be worth...that depends on what kind of trans it is and what kind of shape it's in.  It may be worth no more than a core -around $300.00-  to quite a bit if it's a particularly small production number application and is in great shape and needs nothing -a very unlikely prospect for a trans that hasn't been in production for nearly 30 years.   </blockquote> RE: That's just the case casting number. -- Gerry Proctor, 09/07/2004
Which tells you just about nothing other than it is for a '68 and later application. It's probably a big in (1 3/8") and big out (31-spline) if it came off the back of an FE. For the most part, the tailshaft number gives you the indication of what it would fit, not necessarily what its original application was. But the little metal tag that might still be attached to the passenger side of the case would tell you the original application(like RUG ** or HEH **) as long as the trans hasn't been altered.

As for what it might be worth...that depends on what kind of trans it is and what kind of shape it's in. It may be worth no more than a core -around $300.00- to quite a bit if it's a particularly small production number application and is in great shape and needs nothing -a very unlikely prospect for a trans that hasn't been in production for nearly 30 years.
 Gerry is right except... -- hawkrod, 09/08/2004
it is probably a small in small out even if it is from an FE. Only 428's and 429's had big in big out transmissions and there are a heck of a lot more 390 4 speeds laying around as they were made at a rate significantly higher even though they were only used on 68/9 with that casting number while while the 428 was made for 3 years. Hawkrod
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22756&Reply=22756><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>unknown part for brakes,  need help ID</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>glennz, <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>67 mustang GTA 390,  had a slight brake leak in rear of car friday,  the was a small coupling that had a weep hole,  it was in the rear brake line just before the rubber line,  it was about 2 inches long and about 3/4 round,  had a ford part # of C70a-**-C  forget the 4 didgits right now,  NPD had no idea,  ford had no listing of part,  i thought one way check valve,  but flowed freely in both directions,  not sure what this is or if needed,  i bypassed and brakes work fine,  just not sure what part is.... </blockquote> unknown part for brakes, need help ID -- glennz, 09/06/2004
67 mustang GTA 390, had a slight brake leak in rear of car friday, the was a small coupling that had a weep hole, it was in the rear brake line just before the rubber line, it was about 2 inches long and about 3/4 round, had a ford part # of C70a-**-C forget the 4 didgits right now, NPD had no idea, ford had no listing of part, i thought one way check valve, but flowed freely in both directions, not sure what this is or if needed, i bypassed and brakes work fine, just not sure what part is....
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22760&Reply=22756><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: That's the proportioning valve.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gerry Proctor, <i>09/07/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Now go track one down or install an adjustable unit from Wilwood.  The brakes work fine but you may find a problem if you do a full-force stop. </blockquote> RE: That's the proportioning valve. -- Gerry Proctor, 09/07/2004
Now go track one down or install an adjustable unit from Wilwood. The brakes work fine but you may find a problem if you do a full-force stop.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22761&Reply=22756><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: That's the proportioning valve.</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>glennz, <i>09/07/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>no there is a proportioning valve already in the front of the car just below the master,  i was a certified mechanic for near 20 yrs and know what a proportioning valve looks like,  this must have been some sort of add on ,  </blockquote> RE: That's the proportioning valve. -- glennz, 09/07/2004
no there is a proportioning valve already in the front of the car just below the master, i was a certified mechanic for near 20 yrs and know what a proportioning valve looks like, this must have been some sort of add on ,
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22762&Reply=22756><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Cylindrical object about 3" long...</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Gerry Proctor, <i>09/07/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>and about 3/4" diameter.  Dichromate plating.  If you have the same type of valve installed on the combination (distribution and brake warning) valve on a small bracket right next to the block, that's a post-factory owner modification and is correct for a '68 and later car.  In '67, the lines from the master cylinder ran to the distribution block that contained a pressure warning switch.  The proportioning valve was at the rear just before the flex line.  </blockquote> RE: Cylindrical object about 3" long... -- Gerry Proctor, 09/07/2004
and about 3/4" diameter. Dichromate plating. If you have the same type of valve installed on the combination (distribution and brake warning) valve on a small bracket right next to the block, that's a post-factory owner modification and is correct for a '68 and later car. In '67, the lines from the master cylinder ran to the distribution block that contained a pressure warning switch. The proportioning valve was at the rear just before the flex line.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22771&Reply=22756><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>certified mechanics.......</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hawkrod, <i>09/08/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>were you a Ford mechanic in 1967 1968 or 1969? The junction block up near the master cylinder does not contain a proportioning valve on those years of Fords. 1970 was the First year that Ford went to a combination valve and they did not do it on all models at that! What you found is a correct 1967 proportioning valve in the correct location. A quick look in a 1967 shop manual would have shown it to you on page 2-22. On 1968 and 1969's it is up front NEXT to the junction block and looks the same as the one you have. Hawkrod </blockquote> certified mechanics....... -- hawkrod, 09/08/2004
were you a Ford mechanic in 1967 1968 or 1969? The junction block up near the master cylinder does not contain a proportioning valve on those years of Fords. 1970 was the First year that Ford went to a combination valve and they did not do it on all models at that! What you found is a correct 1967 proportioning valve in the correct location. A quick look in a 1967 shop manual would have shown it to you on page 2-22. On 1968 and 1969's it is up front NEXT to the junction block and looks the same as the one you have. Hawkrod
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22772&Reply=22756><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: certified mechanics.......</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>glennz, <i>09/09/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>sorry for my ignorance as you point out,  there is what to look like what i have seen over the last 20 yrs, as a proportioning valve under the master,  has both lines going in, and 3 coming out, 2 to the front and 1 to the rear, along with the warning sensor,  if it were a distribution block 1 line would be going in and 2 or 3 coming out,  but as you point out i was not a mechanic in 1967 so i would not have known, <br><br> next question is are these parts still avalible,  i do not want to go thru the hassle of putting in a proportioning valve which would most likely mean pulling the motor again ( 390 ) limited space in order to work...i was surprised that the folks at NPD did not know what it was even by ford part #<br><br>thnaks<br><br>glenn z </blockquote> RE: certified mechanics....... -- glennz, 09/09/2004
sorry for my ignorance as you point out, there is what to look like what i have seen over the last 20 yrs, as a proportioning valve under the master, has both lines going in, and 3 coming out, 2 to the front and 1 to the rear, along with the warning sensor, if it were a distribution block 1 line would be going in and 2 or 3 coming out, but as you point out i was not a mechanic in 1967 so i would not have known,

next question is are these parts still avalible, i do not want to go thru the hassle of putting in a proportioning valve which would most likely mean pulling the motor again ( 390 ) limited space in order to work...i was surprised that the folks at NPD did not know what it was even by ford part #

thnaks

glenn z
 Ford Used a Different Junction Block -- hawkrod, 09/09/2004
Yes, the junction block has two tubes in and three out and has the pressure differential switch in it but no proportioning valve. In 1970 ford finally got with it and added a proportioning valve to the junction block and renamed it a combination valve. To be truthful I am unaware of direct replacements for the valve you have although I have heard of somebody rebuilding them. If push came to shove there is no reason you could not simply mount a new adjustable proportioning valve in the stock location at the back, the problem is getting to it to adjust it as it is trial and error. The good news is once you install it and get it adjusted it will not need to be messed with for years so it won't matter that its under the back. Also note that if you go with an adjustable be sure to test it on a wet surface when you are seting it as that is probably the most critical time for the back brakes to not lock. Hawkrod
 RE: unknown part for brakes, need help ID -- greg, 09/07/2004
Proprtioning valve, 67-69 mustangs with disc brakes had a distribution block mounted under the master cylinder and a separate proportioning valve, (the object you describe), in 67 it was back by the axle, and 68/9 it was up by the distribution block.
 RE: unknown part for brakes, need help ID -- giacamo, 09/09/2004
Glennz i,d go salavage yard hunting i belive the fairlane and outher unibodie styial cars used the same valve you need, i,d reininstall one back in thear for the sake of stoping under heavey braking...........
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22750&Reply=22750><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Comp cam ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mxsmn, <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I put in a Comp Cam Magnum 280 and can't seem to get rid of the ticking sound.  I have adjustable rocker arms and have adjusted several times, but it still sound like a solid cam.  I've read on other posts where this cam will have good vacum for power brakes, my vacum runs around 13 at idle which doesn't operate the power brakes.  Is the ticking and vacum normal for this cam? </blockquote> Comp cam ticking -- mxsmn, 09/06/2004
I put in a Comp Cam Magnum 280 and can't seem to get rid of the ticking sound. I have adjustable rocker arms and have adjusted several times, but it still sound like a solid cam. I've read on other posts where this cam will have good vacum for power brakes, my vacum runs around 13 at idle which doesn't operate the power brakes. Is the ticking and vacum normal for this cam?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22753&Reply=22750><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Comp cam ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>the vac may be normal but the ticking is not do thay all tick?what tipe of lifters did you use?do the springs mach the cam?is the rocker tin hitting the rockers with a higher lift cam now?are your valve gides ok,a higher lift cam brings out more noise from loose gides.is your oil presser ok?are the push rods hitting the head or intake in thear holes?theas are some things i,v found that make noise.i,v sean the 280 in 390,s work with power brakes, but more things than the cam can afect vac, as in compression, intake type timeing even the carb,and exaust, can change the vac 1 or 2 points.i,s hard to gess wear your ticking is from but i,d look at heads real clouse.... </blockquote> RE: Comp cam ticking -- giacamo, 09/06/2004
the vac may be normal but the ticking is not do thay all tick?what tipe of lifters did you use?do the springs mach the cam?is the rocker tin hitting the rockers with a higher lift cam now?are your valve gides ok,a higher lift cam brings out more noise from loose gides.is your oil presser ok?are the push rods hitting the head or intake in thear holes?theas are some things i,v found that make noise.i,v sean the 280 in 390,s work with power brakes, but more things than the cam can afect vac, as in compression, intake type timeing even the carb,and exaust, can change the vac 1 or 2 points.i,s hard to gess wear your ticking is from but i,d look at heads real clouse....
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22755&Reply=22750><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Comp cam ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>glennz, <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>have same cam inmy car,  just got it running againthis evening,  it is common with the magnum series 280 to have a slight tick just like a solid lifter cam,  comp told me this becuase of the aggressive lobe design,  sort of like their extreme series,  if it is a lite tick,  don't worry,  if it is loud then you have anothe rissue,  as for vaccume  13 lbs should run it fine,  what i found onmine was the one way check valve onthe master was bad, causing a real hard pedal,  worked once then second pump of the brake were hard... </blockquote> RE: Comp cam ticking -- glennz, 09/06/2004
have same cam inmy car, just got it running againthis evening, it is common with the magnum series 280 to have a slight tick just like a solid lifter cam, comp told me this becuase of the aggressive lobe design, sort of like their extreme series, if it is a lite tick, don't worry, if it is loud then you have anothe rissue, as for vaccume 13 lbs should run it fine, what i found onmine was the one way check valve onthe master was bad, causing a real hard pedal, worked once then second pump of the brake were hard...
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22765&Reply=22750><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Comp cam ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>giacamo, <i>09/07/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>glennz your right as to the light ticking , i do meen light, thay dont sound like solids, though thay have a valve singing  you can hear, kinda like my faverite music on a saterday night...... </blockquote> RE: Comp cam ticking -- giacamo, 09/07/2004
glennz your right as to the light ticking , i do meen light, thay dont sound like solids, though thay have a valve singing you can hear, kinda like my faverite music on a saterday night......
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22769&Reply=22750><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Comp cam ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mxsmn, <i>09/08/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I had machine shop check valve springs when they rebuilt the heads.  They added hardened seats and told me my springs were good for the cam.  Have to question that now.  Did notice that the oil pressure at idle is 50 lbs and when I increase rpm it goes to 65 lbs but beings to drop back to 50 lbs.  Steady smoke out of exhaust now.  Looks like a compression check and serious look at the heads is in order. </blockquote> RE: Comp cam ticking -- mxsmn, 09/08/2004
I had machine shop check valve springs when they rebuilt the heads. They added hardened seats and told me my springs were good for the cam. Have to question that now. Did notice that the oil pressure at idle is 50 lbs and when I increase rpm it goes to 65 lbs but beings to drop back to 50 lbs. Steady smoke out of exhaust now. Looks like a compression check and serious look at the heads is in order.
 RE: Comp cam ticking -- giacamo, 09/08/2004
mxsmn your oil press sounds great, looks like no problem thear.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=24243&Reply=22750><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Comp cam ticking</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>mxsman, <i>03/07/2005</i></font><br /><blockquote>Ticking seems to be a normal thing.  I have the 270 one size down.  It ticks at idle and increases at higher speeds.  I went nuts like you are and guess it's normal.  Vacum around 13-14 so had to put an elec. vacum pump to get the brakes to work.  As for the smoke do you have the oil baffles in.  Mine was fine till I changed intakes, left the baffles out and it smoked like crazy, put them back in and it's fine now. </blockquote> RE: Comp cam ticking -- mxsman, 03/07/2005
Ticking seems to be a normal thing. I have the 270 one size down. It ticks at idle and increases at higher speeds. I went nuts like you are and guess it's normal. Vacum around 13-14 so had to put an elec. vacum pump to get the brakes to work. As for the smoke do you have the oil baffles in. Mine was fine till I changed intakes, left the baffles out and it smoked like crazy, put them back in and it's fine now.
 RE: Comp cam ticking -- walt, 04/24/2005
maybe you have the fast bleed down lifters wich are noisey,i also had a cracked piston,at the pin that sounded just like a bad lifter,and a friend of mine had a cracked piston skirt,sounded the same,the steady smoke,heads dont normally do that.even with bad guides and seals,you might have another prob,maybe your intake leaks,13 inches is very low,i got a crane 260 cam,i runn 17 inches at 850 rpm
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22749&Reply=22749><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>390 gt engine rattle</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Simon Bailey, <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I am desperate to sort out a rattling 390 fe, the timings fine, the motor runs sweat, there are no noises when reving out of gear but when driving there is a rattling (sound top end ish) noise from the left hand (drivers side). It comes on at 3K and stays, if you chop it another gear (4 speed manual) it goes and comes back at 3k again.<br>Loads of power, engine has been previously built and seems 100% inc power. Car drives perfect and never stalls, idles badly, revs clean etc, realy can not explain this one.<br>I am however in the UK so may be its our weather.<br>Any and all help apreciated, Simon </blockquote> 390 gt engine rattle -- Simon Bailey, 09/06/2004
I am desperate to sort out a rattling 390 fe, the timings fine, the motor runs sweat, there are no noises when reving out of gear but when driving there is a rattling (sound top end ish) noise from the left hand (drivers side). It comes on at 3K and stays, if you chop it another gear (4 speed manual) it goes and comes back at 3k again.
Loads of power, engine has been previously built and seems 100% inc power. Car drives perfect and never stalls, idles badly, revs clean etc, realy can not explain this one.
I am however in the UK so may be its our weather.
Any and all help apreciated, Simon
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22751&Reply=22749><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: 390 gt engine rattle</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Wayne K., <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Does it sound like detonation (pinging), or more like something mechanical? If it has held together this long my imagination says it's pinging with the advance/fuel ratio change/engine load. But, a friend of mine built an FE many years ago with the pistons poking out of the cylinders a little too far. Just enough to cause a rattle something similar to what you're taking about. He ended up double up the head gaskets for short term fix (didn't last).<br><br>Wayne K. </blockquote> RE: 390 gt engine rattle -- Wayne K., 09/06/2004
Does it sound like detonation (pinging), or more like something mechanical? If it has held together this long my imagination says it's pinging with the advance/fuel ratio change/engine load. But, a friend of mine built an FE many years ago with the pistons poking out of the cylinders a little too far. Just enough to cause a rattle something similar to what you're taking about. He ended up double up the head gaskets for short term fix (didn't last).

Wayne K.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22752&Reply=22749><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: 390 gt engine rattle</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Simon Bailey, <i>09/06/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Thought it originally was detonation but sound mechanical, have adjusted the timing back and forth loads and no difference in sound but obvious changes in performance etc. We run 95 octaine unleaded as standard in the uk so should be fine and heads etc are hrdened seats etc so no expecting to much difficulty in this are. There is however still this rattle and so far the sourse is undetected, thanks for your help any how. </blockquote> RE: 390 gt engine rattle -- Simon Bailey, 09/06/2004
Thought it originally was detonation but sound mechanical, have adjusted the timing back and forth loads and no difference in sound but obvious changes in performance etc. We run 95 octaine unleaded as standard in the uk so should be fine and heads etc are hrdened seats etc so no expecting to much difficulty in this are. There is however still this rattle and so far the sourse is undetected, thanks for your help any how.
 RE: 390 gt engine rattle -- giacamo, 09/06/2004
recurve your dist, so advance comes in at a a higher rpm than 3000 id try 4000 or even 4500 may subside the rattel.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22745&Reply=22745><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>autolite carb</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>J B, <i>09/05/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I have a 68 Ford XL with a 390 4v.  I have been having problems with stumble on acceleration, rough idle and starting in cold weather.  Also, the heat tube has rusted out of the hole coming out of the engine.  I had a guy put a kit in the autolite 4300 and tried to re-connect the heat tube, but it has come out again.<br><br>My question is, I don't know whether or not to rebuild this carb or as a friend suggested, buy a new holly for it and just bolt it on.<br><br>Thing is, I can't find any documentation on what the cfm's are on the autolite 4300.  I have seen a reasonable Holley on ebay for $169 - its a 600 cfm with vacuum secondaries and electric choke - new.<br><br>I would like to keep the car as original as possible, but I also want to drive it without too much hassle.<br><br>Should I consider this or rebuild mine?<br><br>Thanks, J B </blockquote> autolite carb -- J B, 09/05/2004
I have a 68 Ford XL with a 390 4v. I have been having problems with stumble on acceleration, rough idle and starting in cold weather. Also, the heat tube has rusted out of the hole coming out of the engine. I had a guy put a kit in the autolite 4300 and tried to re-connect the heat tube, but it has come out again.

My question is, I don't know whether or not to rebuild this carb or as a friend suggested, buy a new holly for it and just bolt it on.

Thing is, I can't find any documentation on what the cfm's are on the autolite 4300. I have seen a reasonable Holley on ebay for $169 - its a 600 cfm with vacuum secondaries and electric choke - new.

I would like to keep the car as original as possible, but I also want to drive it without too much hassle.

Should I consider this or rebuild mine?

Thanks, J B
 RE: autolite carb -- giacamo, 09/05/2004
if you had the autolight just rebilt try tuning it more befor givingup on it thay are a desent carb, you may haft to drill out the hole in the manifold to install a new tube for your choak.i,d keep tinkering with the autolite to keep the stock look..........
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22743&Reply=22743><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Holley carb question C3AE-B</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Davy Gurley, <i>09/04/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>I dismantled the carb off my Fairlane today and noticed that it was an unusual configuration.  It has C3AE-9510-B stamped on the choke horn with List 2668 under that and 753 under that number. The primary metering block has 3903 stamped on it and the secondary block has 3184 stamped in it.  The throttle plates are 172 on primary and 173 on secondary.  It is supposed to be for a 63-4 427 and is a 4150-C configuration.  Does any one have any books that can cross the metering block numbers and make sure that they are right for the carb?  Anybody got any idea of value?  It was running but not real good (that's why I dismantled it). I thought the car had an ordinary 1850 Holley on it until today.  Surprise.... </blockquote> Holley carb question C3AE-B -- Davy Gurley, 09/04/2004
I dismantled the carb off my Fairlane today and noticed that it was an unusual configuration. It has C3AE-9510-B stamped on the choke horn with List 2668 under that and 753 under that number. The primary metering block has 3903 stamped on it and the secondary block has 3184 stamped in it. The throttle plates are 172 on primary and 173 on secondary. It is supposed to be for a 63-4 427 and is a 4150-C configuration. Does any one have any books that can cross the metering block numbers and make sure that they are right for the carb? Anybody got any idea of value? It was running but not real good (that's why I dismantled it). I thought the car had an ordinary 1850 Holley on it until today. Surprise....
 RE: Holley carb question C3AE-B -- McQ, 09/06/2004
Yes the C3AE-B is a correct carb # for the single 4V 427-410, '63-'64. I have read from various sources that it's a 700 CFM, not a 750 or 780.

I have one of these carbs. I had it rebuilt/manufactured by the expert Joe Bunetic. I bought mine for $125 on ebay but it had the incorrect metering plates. Joe has the info on the correct ones. He replaced mine with the primary plate - 3903(Yours is correct) and the secondary plate - 3814(Did you transpose the 1 & 8 or did I?).

I think in good rebuildable condition with the correct plates, that carb is worth between $200-$300.

Rebuilt by Joe.....it's worth $600.

Joe Bunetic's phone # is 618-397-3580 Illinois
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22739&Reply=22739><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Where should I set my redline on a stock 390?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Steve M., <i>09/03/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>What RPM will these 390's start sucking valves? It is a 1970 model 390. It is all stock except for headers,manifold and a 4 barrel carb. I am racing it for the first time and dont want to blow it up. Is 5000 ok, or can I go longer between shifts safely. I blew up a 351  last year due to not knowing the limits of it so I dont want a repeat. Thanks. </blockquote> Where should I set my redline on a stock 390? -- Steve M., 09/03/2004
What RPM will these 390's start sucking valves? It is a 1970 model 390. It is all stock except for headers,manifold and a 4 barrel carb. I am racing it for the first time and dont want to blow it up. Is 5000 ok, or can I go longer between shifts safely. I blew up a 351 last year due to not knowing the limits of it so I dont want a repeat. Thanks.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22740&Reply=22739><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Where should I set my redline on a stock 390?</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>jake, <i>09/03/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>The FE valvetrain is pretty heavy. If you've got stock, old valve springs you'll float the valves pretty quick and run the risk of dropping a valve if one of them breaks. If it were my car, I would replace the springs and crappy stock retainers and locks with newer stuff before I ran it hard.<br><br>Also consider adding an extra quart of oil. The stock FE oil pan isn't baffled very well and when you accelerate quickly it runs away from the pickup. I've run mine with an extra quart for a long time--you can't even tell its in there, just cheap insurance.<br><br>With replacement stock springs and a stock passenger car cam you'll probably run out of steam around 5000 max. With a hotter cam and a solid bottom end a 390 will spin to 6000 safely. </blockquote> RE: Where should I set my redline on a stock 390? -- jake, 09/03/2004
The FE valvetrain is pretty heavy. If you've got stock, old valve springs you'll float the valves pretty quick and run the risk of dropping a valve if one of them breaks. If it were my car, I would replace the springs and crappy stock retainers and locks with newer stuff before I ran it hard.

Also consider adding an extra quart of oil. The stock FE oil pan isn't baffled very well and when you accelerate quickly it runs away from the pickup. I've run mine with an extra quart for a long time--you can't even tell its in there, just cheap insurance.

With replacement stock springs and a stock passenger car cam you'll probably run out of steam around 5000 max. With a hotter cam and a solid bottom end a 390 will spin to 6000 safely.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22741&Reply=22739><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>ditto</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>raycfe, <i>09/03/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote> ditto -- raycfe, 09/03/2004
n/m
 RE: ditto -- giacamo, 09/05/2004
5000 max with out changing the stock two pice valve retainers, most rebilds i do thay thay get tosed,
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22731&Reply=22731><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Carb float chamber leak</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Bigmo, <i>09/02/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Hello, advice needed please on 1974 Ford Gran Torino Squire Brougham station wagon 400 6.6 litre engine with a 2 barrel carb. I smelled fuel when I shut down the engine and tracked it down the float chamber, after sitting it is empty evidently leaking into the intake manifold. I cleaned the silt out of the chamber and around the jets, this seemed to put a stop to the problem but it is getting worse again. Question is do I need a re-build? is it complicated if I buy a kit? any advice will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Billy </blockquote> Carb float chamber leak -- Bigmo, 09/02/2004
Hello, advice needed please on 1974 Ford Gran Torino Squire Brougham station wagon 400 6.6 litre engine with a 2 barrel carb. I smelled fuel when I shut down the engine and tracked it down the float chamber, after sitting it is empty evidently leaking into the intake manifold. I cleaned the silt out of the chamber and around the jets, this seemed to put a stop to the problem but it is getting worse again. Question is do I need a re-build? is it complicated if I buy a kit? any advice will be greatly appreciated, Thanks Billy
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22732&Reply=22731><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>go to this carb rebuild walkthru it's easy and</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>dennie, <i>09/02/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote> cheap  <a href="http://hurtle.com/cars/mustang/fixes/carb/">http://hurtle.com/cars/mustang/fixes/carb/</a> </blockquote> go to this carb rebuild walkthru it's easy and -- dennie, 09/02/2004
cheap http://hurtle.com/cars/mustang/fixes/carb/
 RE: go to this carb rebuild walkthru it's easy and -- Bigmo, 09/07/2004
Thank You for the information!!
Billy
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22720&Reply=22720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>Help on some good exhaust gaskets</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>John C, <i>09/01/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Fellows, it won't be long before I drop the old 390 fe back into my 67 Mtstang Fastback. I've added a set of Edelbrock heads and a set of Hooker comp/plus headers. I'm going to buy a case of beer so I can function around those shock towers. I want to make damn sure that I put the best exhaust gasket that I can on it. I'm sure you know why?  I also heard that the copper gaskets are not very compatable with the aluminum heads. I'll take any advise. Thanks! </blockquote> Help on some good exhaust gaskets -- John C, 09/01/2004
Fellows, it won't be long before I drop the old 390 fe back into my 67 Mtstang Fastback. I've added a set of Edelbrock heads and a set of Hooker comp/plus headers. I'm going to buy a case of beer so I can function around those shock towers. I want to make damn sure that I put the best exhaust gasket that I can on it. I'm sure you know why? I also heard that the copper gaskets are not very compatable with the aluminum heads. I'll take any advise. Thanks!
 RE: Help on some good exhaust gaskets -- Scott A. Ekleberry, 09/01/2004
I got some copper header/exhaust gaskets off e-Bay a while back, the guy regularly sells them on there. They should last a long, long time I should think.

Scott
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22723&Reply=22720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Help on some good exhaust gaskets</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Tony P., <i>09/01/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>John, I don't know about the gaskets but as for the beer, I've found that Budweiser works best and if they're really tight throw some Jack Daniels in the mix, you'll get em in...... </blockquote> RE: Help on some good exhaust gaskets -- Tony P., 09/01/2004
John, I don't know about the gaskets but as for the beer, I've found that Budweiser works best and if they're really tight throw some Jack Daniels in the mix, you'll get em in......
 You're Right Tony! -- John C, 09/01/2004
Tony, you hit the nail on the head. I don't know if I want to carefully cut the shock towers out and patch the aprons or just beat the s--t of it. Then I'll shotgun the case of beer. Man, who came up with that shocktower/fe concept? I bet there was many a 6 sparkplug tune up at the Ford dealership.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22726&Reply=22720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>You're Right Tony!</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>John C, <i>09/01/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Tony, you hit the nail on the head. I don't know if I want to carefully cut the shock towers out and patch the aprons or just beat the s--t of it. Then I'll shotgun the case of beer. Man, who came up with that shocktower/fe concept? I bet there was many a 6 sparkplug tune up at the Ford dealership.  </blockquote> You're Right Tony! -- John C, 09/01/2004
Tony, you hit the nail on the head. I don't know if I want to carefully cut the shock towers out and patch the aprons or just beat the s--t of it. Then I'll shotgun the case of beer. Man, who came up with that shocktower/fe concept? I bet there was many a 6 sparkplug tune up at the Ford dealership.
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22729&Reply=22720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: You're Right Tony!</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>glennz, <i>09/01/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>if you get the FPA headers you can attach them first then slide engine into car,  the hookers are a pain in the A$$, i have a set for sale if anyone interested, <br><br>with the FPA,  the trans must be removed, and you angle the motor way back and then slide it down,  the worst part of the whole deal is reattaching trans,  engine slides right in, with help from a buddy ( and tohelp drink beer )  i leanred this one the hard way,  put headers on while engine was in car took near 2 hrs,  put engine in with headers on engine about 20 minutes...<br><br><br>glenn z </blockquote> RE: You're Right Tony! -- glennz, 09/01/2004
if you get the FPA headers you can attach them first then slide engine into car, the hookers are a pain in the A$$, i have a set for sale if anyone interested,

with the FPA, the trans must be removed, and you angle the motor way back and then slide it down, the worst part of the whole deal is reattaching trans, engine slides right in, with help from a buddy ( and tohelp drink beer ) i leanred this one the hard way, put headers on while engine was in car took near 2 hrs, put engine in with headers on engine about 20 minutes...


glenn z
 Your right Glennz -- Dano, 09/03/2004
I used FPA's on my 69 390 Mustang also, and they do go in allready bolted onto the motor, they also come with a good set of gaskets, and a ball type collector flange. Mine have no leaks at all. It is a close fit though, the header flanges are close enough to the Mustang big block shock tower reinforcements that you can barely fit a credit card between them! Also, flowmaster has a 2.5" exaust system that fits and sounds great, a bit on the loud side though, and you have to have a muffler shop connect the headers to the H pipe.
 RE: You're Right Tony! -- John UK, 09/13/2004
Welcome to the skinned knuckle club!! I've put Hooker super Comps on my 428 68 Cougar and they double as a set of engine mounts - the primaries are so tight (i.e against the shock towers) that the engine doesn't move! So now all I'm waiting for is as soon as I fire it up the header bolts will snap/pull out!

Let us know how you got on?
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22777&Reply=22720><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>RE: Help on some good exhaust gaskets</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>Zane, <i>09/10/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>Well John it seems as though we have a few things in common.  Last year I recently rebuilt my 390 FE that came out of a 67 Mustang.  The gaskets I think that you should get are the FELPRO wire core.  All the racers and FE guys around town use them.  Happy motoring<br> </blockquote> RE: Help on some good exhaust gaskets -- Zane, 09/10/2004
Well John it seems as though we have a few things in common. Last year I recently rebuilt my 390 FE that came out of a 67 Mustang. The gaskets I think that you should get are the FELPRO wire core. All the racers and FE guys around town use them. Happy motoring
 RE: Help on some good exhaust gaskets -- ray, 09/13/2004
if you use the white ones soak them in water for awhile which gives them alot more adjustment for a good seal than the others and they will hold up for quite a while--ray
Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=22717&Reply=22717><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a>&nbsp;<b>shock towers</b>&nbsp;-- <font color=#0000ff>hoodweasel, <i>09/01/2004</i></font><br /><blockquote>i notices that on the 428 mustangs ford rapped the shock towers for added soport why and did ford install them on m code cars 351c,& scode cars 390 thank you larry </blockquote> shock towers -- hoodweasel, 09/01/2004
i notices that on the 428 mustangs ford rapped the shock towers for added soport why and did ford install them on m code cars 351c,& scode cars 390 thank you larry
 RE: shock towers -- joe trankler, 09/01/2004
for renforced the shock tower on all big block cars and they call the clevland a small big block
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