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 |  AFX stuff -- Brian, 10/09/2000
I am looking for info on AFX conversions, Especially headers. Any other info will also be helpful. Thanks. |
|  | try www.critesrestoration.com n/m -- Alan C., 10/09/2000
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 | MSD Pro Billet vs; Mallory unilite with vac... -- Steiny, 10/08/2000
Can I get some pros & cons on these two distributors for a FE428 for the street please? I know that the MSD has only a centrif. advance, and this hurts gas mileage. How does the Mallory with vacuum perform against the MSD pro billet? Thanks...
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| 390 Engine buildup -- Ted Young, 10/07/2000
I have never worked on FE's before so I need all of the advice and info you guys can give me. I bought a 67 Galaxie that has a 390 2v in it. I plan to rebuild the motor with a 4v intake, cam, headers, etc. Basically warm the motor up. I bought a factory FE 4v intake at Carlisle last weekend with the casting numbers C6AE-9425-G along with an "S". Is it a good intake? The 390 has '72 truck heads on it. The guy who had owned the car before me thought the engine was blowing smoke because of poor sealing valves, so he traded the original heads for a set of rebuilt ones. It wasnt the heads, its the rings. I also have 2 361 FE truck motors. One has 68 passenger car heads on it "C8AE-H". I am not sure what heads the other 361 has. They are also 2v's unfortunately. I have several 600 cfm carbs too, 2 holleys and an Edelbrock. With what I have (obviously I will need a cam, a set of headers, some lower gears, and a descent torque converter) how good well running of a motor can I build. I am going to stick with a hydraulic cam since all three motors are hydraulic, and I have heard it is costly to convert to solid lifter in an FE. I dont want to build a world beater, but something that will have some balls. Can anyone tell me where I can get info on DOVE products? Would it be worth porting the heads and the intake? Any tips on going about porting fe heads and intakes? Lastly, all of the books I've read about fe heads say that all common FE heads (passenger & 390 GT) have the same port and valve sizes, and that later low riser and CJ heads just have larger intake/exhaust valves than the standard heads. Is this true?
Thanks a lot!
Ted |
|  | as far as the intake is concerned -- T1M, 10/08/2000
I've heard from others here that a new Edelbrock Performer 4V intake is a little better, and alot lighter than your correct 4v Ford intake. Makes sense. |
| | | RE: as far as the intake is concerned -- Ted Young, 10/08/2000
I know that the edelbrock intake is better and significantly lighter, but I want to make do with what I have. Plus, I got the intake really cheap, much much cheaper than an FE aluminum intake. All I want to know, is with what I have what kind of power can I make and what type of cam should I go with. I know that with 69 351w's, you can port the heads and intake, add a nice cam, carb, and headers and youve got a great torquey street motor with 1 h/p+ per inch. What is the FE capable of? I have never worked on FE's before so I am turniong to you guys for some advice. Any porting tips for the intake and heads? Out of the heads i've got which ones should I use?
Ted |
| | | | RE: as far as the intake is concerned -- Scott, 10/09/2000
I have a 390 in my 65 full size car. I went with the same intake you have for the same reason. Some people do not relize that there are alot of us who just don't have the money for those great (and expensive) parts. The S-code manifold has slightly larger runners in it as compared to a regular 4V and performs great with either a 600cfm or 750cfm. I used both. the 750cfm is a little better. The better heads (note: not the best) are the C8ae-h heads. They were used on the GT390's and can be found on regular passenger cars as well. I can get a set from $75.00 a pair in my area. Don't worry about all of that porting stuff either. Not unless you have money to burn or plan on racing. The S-code with C8AE-H heads and a good cam should get you at least 335hp. And for not a whole lot of money. good luck. Scott. |
| | | | | RE: as far as the intake is concerned -- antperros, 10/16/2000
power is expensive on Fe's I built a 390 bored .060 to 402. I am making around 440 hp and spent around $7,500. I have cast iron heads but will replace them with ported Edelbrock perfromer rpm which will cost around 2,000. but will make more power |
| 352 fantasy -- Robert Burgess, 10/07/2000
Hello, everyone.
Lately I've come across a 352 out of a 66 F250. The engine is primarily stock and in good shape. I'd love to do some hi/po mods to it and stuff it into my 68 mustang but I am a SB man and new to the FE scene. ANybody out there have any ideas for me? |
| | RE: 352 fantasy -- RC Moser, 10/07/2000
Robert, The 352 is a excellent motor for a truck. This is only my opinion, so take if for what it's worth. I had a orginial 352 in a 67 F100, I also had a 410 merc. going to waste in a 55 F100. The 352 was tired, so I installed the 410. The 410 got better gas mileage had almost twice the power. Your 68 stang has a small compartment for the wide FE, make spark plug changes hard adds extra weight on the front end, among other things. I don't think you will be happy with the 352 in it's present form, I'd put a 351W or if you got to have a BB at least a 390 or 428. The HI-Po 352's of the early 60's had high compression, small chambered heads, solids, and cast headers in the heavy galaxies, To biuld the power that I think your looking for would require a total rebuild of the truck 352. RC |
| 428 P.I Heads -- RSReardon, 10/07/2000
anyone know the correct casting numbers for the P.I HEADS in 67? also what was the regular 428 passenger car head # |
| | PI = C7AE-A, C7AE-B (T/E); Pass = C6AE-AA, C6AE-AB (T/E) [n/m] -- Mr F, 10/08/2000
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| Headers V's Cast Iron Exhaust manifolds -- Ian Dobson, 10/07/2000
does anyone have any real numbers on how much is to be gained in H.P. by using headers on a 390GT as apposed to the cast iron intake manifolds?
I guess you are saving 50LBS in weight, but are you actually getting a power advantage also?
Just wondering, as I've always had headers on my Mustang, and of course the constant header leaks no matter what you do :(
I have hooker headers on it right now, and they either bottom out on speedbumps or they leak at the header gasket, and you can never get a wrench on the damn bolts to tighten them :(
anyone else had good/bad header experiences on big block mustangs?
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|  | RE: Headers V's Cast Iron Exhaust manifolds -- Ted Young, 10/07/2000
Ian,
From what I've read, headers offer better exhaust scavenging than cast iron manifolds. With cast iron manifolds, in which the passage ways merge before the collector, the manifold is almost always filled beyond its capacity. Exhaust gasses from one cylinder will build up in the exhaust port of other cylinders as a result. So when a cylinder tries to push out its exhaust gasses when its exhaust port is already filled, and the exhaust manifold is already filled beyond its capacity on top of that, it makes it hard for an engine to get rid of exhaust. With headers, the tubes do not merge before they meet the collector so exhaust charges from one cylinder dont get built up in the exhaust tubes and ports of another. Plus, headers have larger diameter tubes than exhaust manifolds so they can support greter quantities of exhaust. There are some iron exhaust manifolds that have tubes that do not meet before the collector and they flow pretty well, but tube headers will flow more air. I hope all of this helps. I had to read about it a couple of times before I really understood it well. Good luck. I dont know what type of exhaust manifolds you are taliking about, but I know the ones off of my 390 2v in my Galaxie had to be the worst desighn ever.
Ted |
| | RE: Headers V's Cast Iron Exhaust manifolds -- Will, 10/10/2000
I was wondering the same thing. I have Hooker Super-Comp's on my 67 Mustang. They bottom out like crazy, but they don't leak :-) I put bolts in every hole I could get to.
I've never seen any dyno numbers for the FE, but the magazines (I'm sure you've seen this) claim anywhere from 7-15 hp by swapping out the factory 5.0 headers for aftermarket. I don't know about you, but 15 hp isn't worth the headaches at every speed bump.
Does anyone have headers on an FE in a Mustang/Cougar that doesn't bottom out?
I guess another option is the factory cast iron headers. Unfortunately they must be made of gold (weight + cost). |
| | RE: Headers V's Cast Iron Exhaust manifolds -- Jim Raymond, 10/11/2000
I have a set of the long tube cast iron headers I'm putting on a 428 in a 69 truck. I figured that the flat mating surface to the head will avoid the leaks, thermo coating them inside and out to cut engine compartment temp as well as having a tri-y tpe header was worth the extra pounds. The 406 short tube headers sound more like they would fit your needs better, they don't hang much lower then the top of the starter motor.
Jim |
| Value of rebuilt 390? Serious please.. -- jeff H, 10/06/2000
Can anyone give me a serious estimate on the value of a completely rebuilt .050 over 390.
Heads done, new crank, cam, lifters, rods, all cleaned and ready for paint. Looking at a couple of options and have no idea of real value.
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| | What year, and does everything match? [n/m] -- Lou, 10/07/2000
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| | | All parts are 64 or 65 except cam.. -- jeff H, 10/08/2000
someone helping I.D parts indicated the cam might be from a GT. All machine work is professionally done and to spec according to FE manuals. |
| | | | Back to first base. -- Lou, 10/11/2000
What year is the block, heads, intake, dis. carb, etc? Do they match, or are they a mix and match motor? A matching motor is worth a lot more than a mix and match motor, and a lot easyer to sell. |
| | | | | mix n match 64, 65, components new -- jeff, 10/11/2000
intake 65. block 65. heads 64 according to date of mfr. new crank, pistons, valves, rockers, rods, lifters, cam, oilpump, gears, chain, etc. As far as i know these all came from 1 vehicle as the owner who sold to me only had a galaxie that he built up a 427 or 9 for. I'm finishing the job. Everything is to spec or better. Should be a sweet engine. |
| 390 casting of H4 on right front ??? -- Trent Phillips, 10/06/2000
I have a 390 which has on the right front side, a casting of H4. I thought at first I'm mistaken and it is HP but, it is definatly an H4. I cannot find any reference to a H4 casting anwhere. Can anyone tell me what this indicates ?
Thanks alot,
Trent
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| | Could it be a 1960 352 Merc ? -- Trent Phillips, 10/07/2000
The cast on the block is C0AE-B. On the front right of the block behind the alternator is a stamp of j1960.
The cast on the heads is CC1AE. ( I havn't had time to take of the valve covers yet).
If anyone could poin me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it.
Trent
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| 390 Rebuilder Help -- gfg, 10/04/2000
Anyone know a reliable FE engine rebuilder in the Northern Virginia (Washington, DC)area? I'll go out of state if necessary, but rather deal local. I'm looking for quality, not cheap 390 rebuild for my '61 T-Bird restoration. |
| | RE: 390 Rebuilder Help -- don jr, 10/04/2000
i know of one in central va. do you want a stock rebuild or a performance rebuild? theres a guy in Orange Va who has lots of Ford engine experience. He gonna be about 2 hours south of you. Hes good but expensive on performance stuff. drop me a line at my email address and i will give you his name. and i will see if i can find a phone number for him.
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| steel shim head gaskets -- Bill, 10/04/2000
Are the steel shim head gaskets still available out there somewhere ".015/ C3AZ-6051-B" or even the stainless steel ones ".020/ C3AZ-6051-BS(RH) C4AE-6051-BS(LH)" I know my dealer never heard of them. There for my 62 "406" |
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