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 |  DSC Motorsports -- John C, 08/25/2004
Any feedback or problems when ordering from DSC Motorsports? |
|  | RE: DSC Motorsports -- Tony P., 08/25/2004
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John, you won't find a nicer guy in the hipo parts business than Dennis, he charges a fair price and has quality stuff. He will take the time to talk with you and help out if he can. |
| |  | Thanks Tony C. -- John C, 08/26/2004
Appreciate it old boy! |
| |  | RE: DSC Motorsports -- bubba, 08/26/2004
I was going to order some things from him but when I called he reminded me of the dipsticks at AutoZo__. So I'll order my stuff elsewhere, probably POP's. |
|  | RE: DSC Motorsports -- jake, 08/27/2004
I called him and he answered every question i had directly and without trying to get me to spend more. He also has a good reputation with others I've spoken with. I'm ordering from him soon and I'll let you know how that goes. |
| question -- jason, 08/25/2004
my 67 mustang keeps dieing and i have changed the fuel plug and cap and rouder
please e mail me if you know what might be wrong with it
thanks
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| | RE: question -- bubba, 08/26/2004
Check your fuel pump and your alternator. |
| bubba, lighten up dude... -- McQ, 08/25/2004
bubba,
I was going to stay completely away of saying anything regarding your comments. As one who was the recipient of your "Criticism Light", "Who Cares".... "I don't", I thought it best to not knee-jerk react, ust let it go. And you had a point, although, it seems hypocritical of you to state that a thread is too "techy" and to "lighten-up". I try to contribute where I can with some specific knowledge based on actual experience, not conjecture, speculation or self perceived humor. Humor is great except when it's nothing more than criticism. You may be right, what I had to say regarding the torque of a 390GT vs. a 428CJ is useless and inane.
What motivated me to say something here was your helpful comment regarding the Holley choke issue. You offered a real possible solution to this person. It was just one possibility but definitely viable. Your advice got me to thinking that you're not some guy with too much time on his hands. You actually have something to offer besides appointing yourself as the thread-post enforcement officer scanning through each thread, then following up with a witty quip of unasked for advice which is nothing more than criticism.
I thought I knew a lot about the FE engine when I first discovered this forum over three years ago. I was wrong. I've learned numerous specific helpful facts, features about the Ford big block. Some things I read I find redundant thus it's easy to just move on. There are always going to be things that hvae been discussed to death that come up from new posters. A good example was with the question regarding oil restriction- Edelbrock heads. Mr. F's response was perfect in that link would provide everything a person should need to know about that subject.
To sum up my point here, if you like the FE, great, hang around and offer useful advice based on actual experience. This has been an excellent forum to get help, share some knowledge and experiences with the mighty Ford Edsel. |
| | RE: bubba, lighten up dude... -- Chad, 08/25/2004
Man I thought he was coming around. I even asked him a question today. Maybe now we can get back to talking about the allmighty FE. Hawk your advice is always top notch and much appreciated. Speaking of that do you know of any good literature about the Cougar GT-E? I have been to a few internet sites, but would like some more info. Thanks. |
| | Mr Q. smart man. -- bubba, 08/26/2004
I appreciate your candor regarding my posts. I actually enjoy reading yours as well. Thank you for the insight on looking outside. |
| extreme cams -- glennz, 08/25/2004
presently running comp cams 280H, and want a little more, has any one rung the extreme XE284 comp cam, do you like it,
running a 10:1 compression, edelbrock performer rpm heads, edelbrock rpm intake, erson roller rocker assy., and a 750 demon doube pump.
as always valve clearence will be checked but am i pretty much in the clear with the 588 lift of the cam.
put an extreme cam in a big block chevy for a friend a while back and liked it, jut wondering how the FE took it.
thanks in advance
glenn z |
| | RE: extreme cams -- glennz, 08/26/2004
just a follow up, has anyone ever run this cam... or is my best choice the one i am running |
| | RE: extreme cams -- McQ, 08/26/2004
I think you may have us here glennz. I've also wondered about how the Comp "Xtreme Energy" cams work but have no personal knowledge of anyone who is running one.
I think you should make the change.......it's your $$! Then let us know whatcha think. Isn't that nice of me?
Good luck. |
| | | RE: extreme cams -- glennz, 08/26/2004
so then let me redo the question, presently i am running the 280H magnum, has anyone used this cam and tried another with better results, want just a tad bit more performance and more noise,
also noticed when i pulled the vacume hose off of the vacuum modulator on trans had a lot of gas in it, it is hooked to the manifold vacuum on the carb, is this a bad location, here is really no other spot on a performer RPM intake for vacumm exect in the front and that is where i have power brakes hooked.
thanks
glenn z |
| | | | RE:Comp 280 Mag -- McQ, 08/27/2004
Now you're telling us something, i.e., automatic trans., pwr. brakes, these things need to be considered.
I'm looking at Comp's specs on the 280H right here....230 @ .050, that's a healthy cam for the street.
There description says "Works best in street machines with after market torque convertor, lower gears and heders. Rough idle."
What's the weight of your car? What convertor are you using? Are you ready to go for a vacuum can to accomodate your power brakes?
You say you want more noise and performance. Nothing wrong with those desires but you've got to make sure it's just not the noise your looking for or you may lower your current performance.
Comp cams beyond the 280H start to require a lot more high dollar equipment. Are you ready for that?
As for the gas in your tranny's modulator, I can say that's not a good thing. You must be running a C-6 which I've always had manifold vacuum as a source for the modulator. I hope someone else can help you more with this one.
Cams cams cams, they're such a sexy thing to mess around with but you got to be careful.
Let us know a little more about your car/equipment and I'll bet some guys'll jump in and offer you their advice/opinions. |
| | | | | RE:a couple more things -- McQ, 08/27/2004
I just re read your first post, should have done that before my last reply, but you've got some great equipment in your FE. It looks on the computer screen like an engine that should work very well.
So here's my opinion on what you should do, it's an opinion and take it for that, I think you should run a solid lifter cam. That's right. Just pull the hyro bump stick out and replace it with Comp's 282S or 294S. Don't even worry about plugging the hydraulic lifter oil passage. I ran a Schnieder solid cam(236 @ .050) in a stock 428 CJ without any mods, adj. rockers of course. It worked extremely well. I would shift the C6, with 2,500 conv. at 6,200. No problems. It was noisy and it sounded good but didn't shake your car and you to death.
I've had a few days to work on my current 427 with a Comp 282S. I haven't had it on a real road yet but I sure like what I'm hearing in the shop. I do know that Royce has run, and when I say run I mean actually run on the strip, a 282S in his 428. From what I remember, it runs very very well.
So far the only hydraulic cam I've ever liked in an FE is....this is kind of embarassing, but the stock GT/CJ C6OZ-B shaft. But my life with FE's isn't over yet. I may still try another hydraulic cam. Maybe even one of the new fangled Extreme or Xtreme or whatever....if you try one and like it glenn.
Solid lifters for me! Now maybe folks will jump in and give you all kinds of help. |
| | | | | | RE:a couple more things -- glennz, 08/27/2004
thanks for the reply, as stated i put one of the extremes in a big block chevy for a customer, and liked it very much, just a little noise on lifter side which i here is a normal thing, the magnum also is noisy,
i have considered a solid stick, which i ran in my cleveland race car many years ago, one problem, this is in a 67 fast back and a royal pain in the A$$ to take valve cover off when i have to adjust valves, which i don't mind doing if the performance gain is ok, curently engine at machine shop, i lost compression ring in# 2 cylinder, so figured while it was out i would recam it, was even considering 428 upgrade...its only money :-) |
| | | | | | | RE:a couple more things -- giacamo, 08/27/2004
glennz i run a comp 270 solid cam in a 390 with 12.1 pistones for being a mild preformance grind it,s a very strong all around cam thought out the rpm range.i dont know abought running one with 10,10.5 compress, but with a 12.1 compression 390 its a real preformer.........just anougher cam to think abought my 2 cents...... |
| | | | | | | | RE:a couple more things -- 390 ranger, 08/28/2004
i am currently running the xe284 in a .60 390
I like the cam but when i ordered the kit the springs they sentr float about 5600. i believe it is because of the roller rocker and push rod weight. I am going to either buy comps next bigger springs or put the springs that came with the edelbrock heads back in because they never floated. running harland sahrp roller rockers and crower push rods. it also has 10.3to 1 comp. and gapless rings with the top ring being gapless. cam seems stronger than the lunati cam i was running. |
| | | | | | | | | RE:a couple more things -- glennz, 08/30/2004
i have the springs that came on the edelbrocks still installed, i to noticed the float on my car, at about 5800 after rocker install, i hope this is not a trait common to the rockers, this is about the same time i noticed the huge amount of blow by, it use to rev much higher before rockers were installed |
| | | | | | | | | | RE:a couple more things -- 390 RANGER, 08/30/2004
I think it is a weight issue. pushrods are heavier so are the roller rockers. most of the slightly over stock springs don't offer enough seat pressure and the valves bounce. i believe the seat pressure on the ebrock spings are 120 and the comp springs are 125. need to be in the 130 to 140 lbs range. but because how the lift is on the extreme cams this could be a problem for a street car. at least that is what comps tech line says. |
| | | | | | | | | | RE:a couple more things -- giacamo, 08/31/2004
huge amount of blowby, ouch that tends to dampon the rpm,s |
| | RE: extreme cams -- Scott A. Ekleberry, 09/01/2004
I have the Comp Cams 280H in my 390 Mach 1. Sounds like your setup is much like mine only I have C6AE-R heads with stock adjustble rockers and 428CJ valves. I like the cam even though we are still tuning the carb. It seems to pull hard all the way up the RPM range, plants you in the seat from the start and doesn't seem to fall-off at all in gear changes. The vacuum is not the best however, only 6" in drive at an idle, so bad that when I tromped the pedal the vacuum got so low my blower in the car would switch to the defroster LOL. We fixed that with a check valve. I would say if you go to any bigger hyd. cam you are going to have trouble with the trans. and power brakes if you have them. Like the other guys say, if you want it bigger get a solid lift cam. I don't know what the 282S will get you over the 280H, when you factor in the lash the lift #'s would be about the same I would think, the 292S is definetly going to be much more powerful but then you would need to change your stall converter.
Without knowing where you have your timing set, etc. I can't say what is going on, but my car sounds bad, everyone who hears it says it sounds good. I have the timing at 14 degrees initial and 36 degrees total advance. I'm also running MAC 2-chamber stainless mufflers with a healthy exhaust system, you can hear it coming 2 blocks away when I get on it (just as a side note here, the muffler shops drawings of stock 390/428 exhaust shows glass-pack mufflers!). I haven't run the car on the drag strip as of yet (it is mainly a cruise-in car) but just by previous experience and the way the car runs I would say it's in the 13.50-13.90 or so range (well over 100 MPH in quarter mile). I don't know what kind of performance you are looking for but that isn't too bad for a street car I would say. The 280H is the cam Comp recommended for my car, maybe call them with your specs and see what they say? It is up to you in the end what you want, at some point streetability has to be sacrificed for more performance.
Scott |
| | | RE: extreme cams -- glennz, 09/01/2004
my initial feeling was just to get a little more rumble out of it, it is mainly show car occasional driver, i noticed a little more blow by then normal shortly after installing the erson roller set-up. did a compression test and found 1 cylinder low, proceeded to pull apart ( a feat coming out of a 67 stang ) and found the rings were wasted, my way of thinking is while it is out to do a cam change, am pleased with the performance just wanted more of a noticable idle, like yours mine is about 15 degree's initial with 36 total, running a speed demon carb, 3500 stall and 4:10 gear...
as for vacuum, i do have power brakes, but when installing cam was concerned about vacuum so installed a resevoir for vacuum, everything else works fine...i think if i remember right i have about 11-12 lbs vacuum as of now... i went with a 5.5 power valve.. |
| | | | RE: extreme cams -- Scott A. Ekleberry, 09/01/2004
I also have 11-12' vacuum at idle in park, put it in gear and it will drop to 6' or below, I put in a 45 power valve, 75 jets right now also and the yellow short spring in the secondaries, 28 squirter.
If you just want it to lope more cut the timing back, it will lope like crazy! Of course if you do that the performance will suffer some, but if you just want the "sound" then that will do it. You have a larger converter than I do and much lower gears, I have 3.50's. You have a good combination now, more cam is going to make the car less streetable and possibly more headaches (tuning, etc.).
Scott |
| | | | | RE: extreme cams -- glennz, 09/01/2004
actually for more noise you do not bring timing back, you go more initial timing and then turn the idle down, this way perfomnce will not suffer, i know how to dial a engine carb combo in, i have been doing it for yrs and actually statring a buisness up to upgrade and dial in cars, the intial post was to ask if any one used the XE284 cam with any luck...
are you using an after market distributor, your engine is droping to far down causing you problems, how much rpm drop are you getting, sounds like weight springs 2 light. if set correctly engine rpm should only drop a few hundred rpm, wne i put into drive still around 10 lbs vacuum,
glenn z |
| 1970 mach1 -- steve slitz, 08/25/2004
i have a 1970 mach 1 and want to know what the proper wheel is for it |
| 1961 401hp galaxie -- joe kobdan, 08/25/2004
hi i own a 1961 401hp galaxie it is a late car because it has a four speed. am just wanting to know if anyone knows how good these cars ran back in the day mine is in peices
thanks |
| | Answer and Question -- Lou, 08/25/2004
They ran very well, smooth, quite, easy to handle in traffic, but mash the gas and they came alive. You will be surprised how quick a car that size can move.
As far as I know no 61s were fitted with 4 speeds from the factory, al were dealer instaled. What is your tranmission & date code on your data plate?
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| | | RE: Answer and Question -- joe kobdan, 08/25/2004
well lou 1961 all of them got 3speeds with or without overdrive but mid year ford offered a t10 borg warner that was dealer installed option.
mine also has 4.10 gears
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| | | | RE:Hemmings, 9/04 -- McQ, 08/25/2004
joe, you need to go to the newstand and buy the Sept. '04 of Hemmings Musle Machines. There's an excellent multi page feature on a pristine '61 401 horse car with a Factory installed T-10 4 speed. It tells the story of the 4 speed installation progression.
As for how fast they were: Stock off the showroom floor a '61 HP390/401 with 3 speed, non or with O.D. would easily run in the 14's. With minor prep, low 13's were common. Some locals here, The Potter Brothers, hit 13.0 and held a national record for awhile.
They, along with the '60 HP352, were very uncommon. They were built on special order basis only, as production time would permit, generally, a POA, designation. The '61 HPs were all -Z- code which was also the code for the standard performance 300 horse 390. This has lead to a lot of confusion over the years. For '62 Ford finally got up to speed on building HP cars on regular production basis so the 390HP got its own code, -M- for tri power, 401 horse. Then the 406 debuted by January '62.
You have a car well worth restoring. |
| | | | | RE:Hemmings, 9/04 -- joe kobdan, 08/26/2004
thanks guys all i wish is that it was starliner and not a two door post car. |
| | | | | | RE: 2-dr. sedan/post -- McQ, 08/26/2004
Whoa! As much as I like the Starliner, I think a 2-dr. post-sedan factory HP390 is absolutely way cool. With a dealer/factory T-10 intstallation? You've got yer'self one rare '61.
I've got a hunch your car has a drag racing history. |
| fender emblems -- steve, 08/25/2004
I am having trouble installing the pin fender emblems. The barrel nuts are in the fender, but i can not get the emblems to push in. Any advise? |
| | RE: fender emblems -- bubba, 08/25/2004
If its been painted dig it out. If its aftermarket emblem (chinese) use a needle file and gently file diameter down slightly. Lastly, if its orig. from same nuts, tap in with rubber mallet. You cam remove bottom rear fender bolt/shim and use your hand for rear bracing. Good luck. As a side note it would'nt hurt to dap a small amount of adhesive to back of emblem. |
| | | RE: fender emblems -- steve, 08/25/2004
thanks for the info. |
| | | RE: fender emblems -- Chad, 08/25/2004
Any suggestion on what type of adhesive? The Cobra Jet emblems for my Shaker are the stick on type and I would like a little more security. Thanks for any info. |
| | | | RE: fender emblems -- bubba, 08/25/2004
Polyurethane adhesive like they use to set windshelds. You can get a tube at Home Depot for 4.50. Its the best stuff on the market. When you stick it on use a piece of tape to hold in position overnight. By the way, it is located in the caulk/silicone isle and the "flashing" tube is black etc... All made with same stuff only different colors. Once on it wont ever come off. |
| | | | | RE: fender emblems -- Chad, 08/25/2004
Thanks. |
| | | | | | RE: fender emblems -- bubba, 08/25/2004
Your welcome. Worked in a collision center for a long time and it just so happens i learned a couple of things. Hope it helps. |
| 1967 mercury marquis -- ryan, 08/24/2004
can anyone help me on the car specs for my 1967 mercury marquis.. it has a 410 fe motor. i just cant seem to find any of the specs anywhere ie the tranny and whatnot.. thanks
ryan |
| | RE: 1967 mercury marquis -- jake, 08/24/2004
Your car is essentially the same as a '67 galaxie under the skin. The 410 is an FE engine with a 3.98 stroke like a 428 and a 4.050 bore like a 390. The trans is a C6 automatic. Nice Car! |
| | | RE: 1967 mercury marquis -- ryan, 08/24/2004
thanks... yes it is a nice car. im 18 and ive been steaditly rebuilding it for a year now. if there is any other info you have, that would be great.
ryan |
| | | | | RE: 1967 mercury marquis -- ryan, 08/24/2004
thanks |
| | | | RE: 1967 mercury marquis -- jake, 08/24/2004
What sort of info?
The galaxie forum might be of some help with mechanical stuff: http://fordmuscle.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?forum=6&5827
and you can look on the web for the restoration companies like
Mac's
Auto Krafters
Dearborne Classics
Your selection of interior and body restoration parts is limited compared to a galaxie of the same year, but ebaymotors.com is always an option for the hard to find stuff. |
| | | | | RE: 1967 mercury marquis -- ryan, 08/24/2004
yes ive been getting my parts off ebay. :-p i just lost the bid for a parts marquis. dang. like mainly mechanical info |
| Mystery motor please help -- bob lee, 08/24/2004
Hello my name is bob lee i just bought a 1967 mustang from a old man that has a bunch of $hit cars but this mustang is in good shape, anyway my problem is i dont know a danm thing about engines this car has a two four barrell carbs i know it is not the oem. Please help
here is the casting# off the intake c4ae-9425-f
here is the head # c4ae-6049-f
please help me thanks bob lee
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| | RE: Mystery motor please help -- Tony P., 08/24/2004
The heads and manifold are 427 High Riser, these will bolt on just about any FE so you need to do some more checking to identify the engine. |
| | | RE: Mystery motor please help -- bob lee, 08/24/2004
well the block has srew in freeze plugs and cross bolted mains
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| | | | RE: Mystery motor please help -- Tony P., 08/24/2004
I wish a had mystery motors like this. Sounds like you got the real deal, a 427, get the casting # and date code off the block and you will be able to identify which version. |
| | | | | RE: Mystery motor please help -- Barry B, 08/24/2004
Holy cow bob, you da man!
With my luck it would have been a Y-block. |
| | | | | | RE: Mystery motor please help -- Tony P., 08/25/2004
This can't be real, here's a guy who admits he doesn't know much about engines, and he stumbles into something like this. Well Bobby Lee, you may have lost the civil war but it looks as though your luck has changed. When you come up with some numbers on the block post em and we'll help you out.
Good luck(as if you need it) |
| Edelbrock carb has dead spot at full throttle -- Steve M, 08/23/2004
I put a brand new edelbrock 600 CFM carb on my 390 and it works ok, but if I am at a redlight and open it up all the way to the floor, it starts to rev and then it is like time stands still. I hear nothing and the car dies. When I had my holley on there, it never did that. Any suggestions from anybody with experience on carbs? If I let off of the throttle in time I can keep it from dying sometimes. I am trying to tune this thing so I can run it at the All Ford Expo in Columbus labor day weekend. Thanks
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| | RE: Edelbrock carb has dead spot at full throttle -- mikeelikee, 08/23/2004
The Ebrok carb is calibrated for a stock 350 chevy. You need to get a calibration kit and fatten her up a little. For my 390 I had to richen it up and on my 85 mustang I had to go way lean. |
| | | RE: Metering Rods/step-up springs -- McQ, 08/23/2004
I had a very similar situation with a brand new 750CFM E'brock on a 428 CJ. I bought a calibration kit that incudes a variety of metering rods, step up springs and jets.
I called Edelbrock's tech line and explained my problem. The tech guy was very helpful and explained exactly what to do. I'm going from memory now but it does seem that I increased the size of the metering rods one step and went one step stronger on the springs. This cut down the initial shot of fuel to the 428 and it took care of the hesitation completely. These adjustments were very easy to do and you won't spill a drop of fuel. Same with the jets.
Don't give up easily on the Edelbrock carb. They're easy to dial in and they work very well. |
| | | | RE: Metering Rods/step-up springs -- Steve M, 08/23/2004
Thanks for the info. I think I will give them a call. |
| | RE: Edelbrock carb has dead spot at full throttle -- lucas, 08/24/2004
Edelbrock's competition cars run Holley carbs.
The resurrected AFB that they sell is okay for
some apps, but serious performance requires a Holley or Barry Grant! |
| | | RE: Edelbrock carb has dead spot at full throttle -- Barry B, 08/24/2004
Can you get calibration kits for the old Carter 625 AFB? That's what I run on my 'ol pickup and it works great. Just curious. |
| | | | Edelbrock is sending me free rods and springs -- Steve M, 08/25/2004
I dont know about the old carter kits. I did notice that the holley seemed to give me more get up and go off of the line. I emailed edelbrock and they are sending me springs and metering rods for free to match my 390. They said that out of the box they are set for fuel economy and these rods and springs should fix the problem. I will let you know if this fixes it. |
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