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 | C8ae-h head characteristics -- Michael, 05/19/2001
I've just obtained two FE motors of unknown size. The cranks are cast and the heads are C8AE-h. The pistons are flat leading me to think it is probably a 352. I note that this isn't the # for the 352 head and that my 360 has the same #'s--I'm confused! If the heads ARE from a 352 they have more compression than the 360 and I'd like to use them. In any case, I'd like to know if there are any cautions for porting these and how much can be cut off them per point of compression. Thanks Michael |
|  | RE: C8ae-h head characteristics -- Kam, 05/20/2001
Micheal; I have used these heads on a 428. They have intake ports with raised floors very similar to med. risers.
I installed 2.08 X 1.66 427 valves, hogged out the bowls, port matced, cleaned out and polished the ports and combustion chambers and milled them .040 to give 67cc & 10.5 c.r. with stock pistons.
With a P.I. manifold, 750 Holley, Crane Fireball 296 cam, Hooker Super Comps and 3.50 gears it runs mid 13's at 106 in a 4000 lb. 63 Galaxie on 28" BFG street tires.
I think they're one of the best readily available FE heads to work with.
Good Luck, Kam
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| |  | What method did you use to get the Hookers to port match? -- Dave Shoe, 05/20/2001
Kam,
I'm always curious what methods are used with the emissions era heads to get them to port match to Hookers, as Hooker doesn't use an emissions-era compatible flange - it is positioned about 5/16" too high. The mismatch frequently causes header gasket leaks due to improper gasket crush.
Also, I dig hearing about performance use of emissions era (1966-later) FE heads with the "velocity" runners. This is an area which hasn't been published well enough.
Shoe. |
| | |  | RE: What method did you use to get the Hookers to port match? -- Kam, 05/21/2001
Dave; Sorry, no port match on exhaust, only intake. The heads came off a late 60's 360 pickup and had no provision or bumps for smog pump. The ex. flange is cast but not drilled for 14 bolt. Smaller, rounded comb. chambers, raised intake ports, etc. with a little work they are an excellent low cost alternative to Edelbrocks. Works for me. Thanks, Kam |
 | 428CJ over oiling?? -- Bob Enright, 05/18/2001
I have posted elsewhere about this. I havent done anything yet. I have a 69 428 CJ with a high volume oil pump. Problem is is pushes a lot of oil to the top of the motor via rocker shafts. It loads up in the valve cover & some gets scavanged by the pcv valve.I have heard that a some guys use a holley carb jet in the heads where the rocker shaft oiling holes are. My question is has anyone done this & what is the proper size jet to use? This thing pumps soooo much oil that it can just about empty the oil pan on high revs!! This is not a good thing. I am trying to maintain a stock apperance so while the canton pan would help,it not a option for me. Thanx, Bob |
|  | RE: 428CJ over oiling?? -- jeff, 05/19/2001
from what i read on the forums it seems most people recomend a hole between .090 and .120. i think this is about a #80 jet. i drilled a piece of alum rod and cut it to length after the heads were installed. good luck |
|  | RE: 428CJ over oiling?? -- John R. Barnes, 05/19/2001
Take off the rocker shafts and locate the oil hole from the deck. It is in the rocker bolt hole with the long bolt. Get an all thread from the hardware store that fits the hole. Grind off 1/2 of the all thread to a D shaped shaft and slide it in the hole. The block will stop the all thread and keep it in the head and the smaller passage will restrict oil flow. |
 | 1968 Mustang Axle Code "Y" -- Scott Hollenbeck, 05/18/2001
Mr. F's CodeCracker program reports that 1968 axle code "Y" is a 4.30:1 Traction-Lok. I've heard from someone who received an elite report from Marti Auto Works that describes this code as a 4.11:1 Traction-Lok, but an earlier deluxe report also described it as a 4.30 (Kevin explained that the first report was in error). Which is correct, and what document describes the correct value? |
|  | RE: 1968 Mustang Axle Code "Y" -- Bob Thrower, 05/18/2001
Scott;
My 68 1/2 CJ also has "Y" as the axle code and the tag on the differential reads WFD-C 4L30 8DC 947 |
| |  | I think 4.11s replaced the 4.30 in 1971. -- Dave Shoe, 05/19/2001
I'm just going by memory - it's been a long time since I reviewed that info.
I do recall that the 4.11 was a 1971-later thing. I believe the 4.30 disappeared in 1971.
For '69-'70 3.91 and 4.30 was the drag-pak deal. I don't know about 1968 at all, but I suspect the rules changed half-way through 1968 when the Traction-lok first hit the production line, replacing the earlier Equa-Lock differential in performance applications.
Also from memory, I recall there were three Drag-pak axle options in 1969-70: 3.91:1 Traction-lok 4.30:1 Traction-lok 4.30:1 Detroit Locker
Please don't consider this post as fact - hopefully it'll give you an idea or two to help you find the info you need.
Shoe. |
| ![Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6496&Reply=6434><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <b>Definitely 4.30, Scott, but 'proof' isn't handy at the moment. [n/m]</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>05/25/2001</i></font><br /><blockquote>n/m </blockquote>](/WebResource.axd?d=5j1V7IJBhc-qdmzmrXlobnIqmhtzkDyEIo6SWWJSeSuj06UJMWAuuPkKooKj7KSFxViq1U4IBtqdCJuWZPog6gQf_jpX7iWua47wJG8gohjuqUYrBpcQ8NNyzLv4WRkN0&t=637814653746327080) | Definitely 4.30, Scott, but 'proof' isn't handy at the moment. [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/25/2001
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| |  | RE: Y code is 4.30 kevin marti verified -- Paul R, 05/27/2001
When I called kevin marti back again, a computer error caused 4.11 to be printed on the report by mistake. He sent me a corected copy of the report . So code Y is indeed 4.30 traction lock! |
 | Flywheel/flexplate '67 Shelby 428 -- Steve Boulay, 05/18/2001
Anyone know the outside diameter of a '67 Shelby 428 flexplate? I'm scheming obout an upgrade and I need some data/info. Also. is there a good source for this kind of info? ie, engineering drawings, dimensions, etc,..... thanx
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 | 390 H code -- Mac, 05/18/2001
I have a 67 Galaxie with the 390 "H" code motor, in a book I see a 390 "Y" code motor is there any difference? |
|  | RE: 390 H code -- John R. Barnes, 05/18/2001
390 with 2V, 3 speed trans and regular fuel. |
 | Wanted: blueprint of the FE bell housing pattern -- Syleline, 58, 05/17/2001
Anyone have it? Thanks! |
 | Clutch Advice for a 427 -- Rick Thompson, 05/17/2001
I have a 550 hp 427 side oiler in a 68 Shelby. I'm ready to purchase and install the clutch. Anyone have any experience with brands and types of clutches. This is a street show car that will see an occasional drag strip pass. Thanks. |
 | I need rocker shafts! -- Chris, 05/17/2001
Does anyone know where i can find some heavy duty shafts, end stands, and rocker spacers for my 390? FPPs shafts and stands are on backorder, and i can never get in touch with anyone at Dove. I need 'em quick. nay help greatly appreciated. Thanks, chris |
|  | Call Summit and FPA for the combo. -- Leo, 05/17/2001
Summit has the Harland Sharp rockers and shafts; FPA "http://www.fordpowertrain.com" makes a kit to do the stands/end stands/rocker spacers. Good as any, better than most; I've run them both. Otherwise, pull out you wallet and buy the Dove set-up; I've never had a problem calling them Tues-Thurs, Eastern Time. |
 | 428 for 67 GT500 -- JT, 05/17/2001
I put this on the general forum with no answer so far, so here goes... I'm looking at an early '67 GT500 Shelby, and the motor is a '69 428CJ. If this car is ever to be considered "correct", will any 428 motor from the same month as the car's build date suffice? or did Ford or Shelby stamp vin #'s to match the car to the engine? The 8V setup is intact, just not the long block that came in the car. thanks |
|  | RE: 428 for 67 GT500 -- Morgan, 05/17/2001
Hi JT,
If you want to make it correct you need a motor with a build date before the build date on your GT-500. Some times the original block was cast several month's before the car was built on the line. My question is do you plan to keep the car, if you do it really does not matter as long as its a 428. Shelby did not put any special stamping on the block, at least not in 1967. What is the cars serial number? Does it hafe a early build number or late number?
Morgan 67 GT-500 03217 |
| |  | 67 GT500 keeper...I think -- JT, 05/18/2001
It's an early car - #006*3 with center lights, dual 4 barrels and 4 speed. I plan on restoring it to original condition (color, int., options), but not to the point of trailer queen. Unless it's trailered to a racing event, drive the car! I would be lying if I said I was going to keep it forever and resale value is not a concern, because it is. I'm assuming the 1969 428 Cobra Jet motor will make the car worth less money than a correct-date 428 PI motor like the original one that came in the car. But, if I can use any 428 engine with a build date a month or two prior to the car's, that's not TOO big a problem...I hope. I just want to determine now, before I dump $40 grand into this thing, if it's worth my investment or if I should seek out a car with the original motor in place. |
| | |  | For '67, having a CJ may even increase value [n/m] -- Mr F, 05/18/2001
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 | F427 Edelbrock Intake -- Mark Talbot, 05/17/2001
Anybody got any info on this intake?What was it's intended use?What is it worth?Thank's Mark |
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